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« on: January 10, 2014, 10:22:31 AM » |
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Hi guys,
Just needed a little advise.
I went to start my Valk last night as part of my winter maintenance...
Inserted Key, turned on ignition, lights came on everything powered up and I pushed the starter button and lost all electrical power. No lights, No starter, nothing.
Checked battery - OK
I expect I've blown a fuse or relay, but now I need to figure out which one...
I think it's the 'red' fuse, right side harness (starter fuse/relay?) but I need some help.
Thanks in advance for the support.
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Bighead
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2014, 10:28:29 AM » |
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Did your lights come back on when you released the starter button? (Reason I ask is it could be stuck in between contact on and off) I was on a trip one time and the stater button had a short of sorts in it just played with the button flipping it in and out several times and it started working again. When I got home from my trip I took the switch out and cleaned the contacts and it still works today. Just a thought.
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StormRiderCA
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2014, 10:32:48 AM » |
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No lights, no dash, no power whatever at this time.
Removed key, checked battery (ok) retry, no electrical power at all.
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“Our battered suitcases were piled on the sidewalk again; we had longer ways to go. But no matter, the road is life.”
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2014, 11:11:04 AM » |
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Disconnect the battery, then have a good look at the starter relay and attached fuse.
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HayHauler
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2014, 11:18:04 AM » |
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You need to check both ends of the battery cables. Mine did the exact same thing and the positive cable was a little corroded. I cleaned up all 4 ends and she fired right up. Hay  Jimmyt |
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MarkT
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2014, 02:23:17 PM » |
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You need to check both ends of the battery cables. Mine did the exact same thing and the positive cable was a little corroded. I cleaned up all 4 ends and she fired right up. Hay Jimmyt Yep. My money's on the engine ground - back of the aluminum engine block. Move it to a steel ground - closest is the driver's footpeg bracket mount (If on the side of the road) or add a ground strap from the end of that ground wire to the steel ground. If you do the first, change to the second when you get home so you have a better ground between engine and frame. And improve/clean the connection at the engine block - a star washer would be good here. |
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gordonv
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2014, 07:07:39 PM » |
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Kill switch turned on?
Which model Valk? A buddy recommended to press the start button before turning the ignition on, to avoid the sudden power draw and any arching on the starter switch.
My thought is still the starter switch, like mentioned.
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Attic Rat
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2014, 08:39:31 PM » |
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Yep Jimmy I had the same thing happen to me several years ago. Cleaned both ends of the positive and negative battery cables. That fixed the problem. Mine was on the negative cable on the engine that was corroded. Cleaned it and all has been well now for several years.
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StormRiderCA
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2014, 01:09:00 PM » |
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Some new info after attempting some troubleshooting:
Checked ground connection, removed bolts and re-set.
I used a volt meter to test for the following:
Battery = 11.4v (OK)
Battery to frame (ground) = 11.4v (OK)
Checked starter relay fuse = OK
Here is what I noticed when I turned on key:
No dash lights or any other power apparent.
When I pushed the starter switch, the dash light came on briefly.
I checked the battery and noted the following:
Battery = 11.4v when ignition key is OFF
Battery = 2.4v when ignition key is ON
This looks to me like a short, now I just need to find where.
Could this be a bad starter relay
or
Bad starter switch?
Any thoughts....?
Thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2014, 01:22:19 PM » |
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Sounds like a bad battery to me!
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2014, 06:43:54 PM » |
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I think that if you had a short that would pull the battery down to 2.4 volts you would be blowing fuses and burning wires. Looks like it time to get a new battery.
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2014, 06:50:17 AM » |
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could have an issue with on and off switch happened to me going around an 18 wheler was not good but by passed switch and rode off. pouch
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2014, 09:38:59 AM » |
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StormRiderCA
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2014, 08:01:55 PM » |
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Congratulations Ricky-D! After all the troubleshooting and metering I dug out the jumper cables.... Much to my chagrin, she started up right away. Bad cells in the battery! Enough juice to power a meter, not enough to power the bike. Now.... how foolish do I feel????!!  Thanks all for your help and suggestions! |
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jdp
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2014, 06:13:37 PM » |
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Check your kick stand switch might have just came loose,easy check
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