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Author Topic: Question, will a rear rim or wheel off a 97 valk fit other years?  (Read 1546 times)
BigMac (SoCal)
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« on: January 15, 2014, 08:20:07 PM »

I thought I saw it somewhere but don't remember. Thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2014, 08:31:54 PM »

Yes and no. The wheel will fit all years of Valkyries, however, with the later years, you must match the year of brake rotor with the year of brake caliper. I think the change came, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, in 2001. Honda changed the brake caliper and rotor. I've heard of some using shims in order to retain the original rotor.

Sure someone who knows the exact dates will chime in but I'm pretty sure you can do an entire wheel, rotor swap from a '97 to a bike up to 2000.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2014, 04:46:41 AM »


I think that you need to have the right rotor with the wheel, and you're good to go.

I think calipers and caliper plates and all are just alike...

I think that maybe 97 and 98 rear wheels are alike...

The way that the rotors bolted to the wheels is what got changed...

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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2014, 07:52:59 PM »


I think that you need to have the right rotor with the wheel, and you're good to go.

I think calipers and caliper plates and all are just alike...

I think that maybe 97 and 98 rear wheels are alike...

The way that the rotors bolted to the wheels is what got changed...

-Mike


I know for a fact that the '97 through '99 wheels/rotors/calipers are the same as I've out '99 wheels on my '97, with '97 rotors, and they fit no problem. With later years the wheels were all the same as well but a change was made to the calipers which moved the position where the rotor fit. An old rotor could be shimmed to match up with the new caliper or a slightly redesigned rotor could be mounted.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2014, 03:02:44 AM »


I think that you need to have the right rotor with the wheel, and you're good to go.

I think calipers and caliper plates and all are just alike...

I think that maybe 97 and 98 rear wheels are alike...

The way that the rotors bolted to the wheels is what got changed...

-Mike


I know for a fact that the '97 through '99 wheels/rotors/calipers are the same as I've out '99 wheels on my '97, with '97 rotors, and they fit no problem. With later years the wheels were all the same as well but a change was made to the calipers which moved the position where the rotor fit. An old rotor could be shimmed to match up with the new caliper or a slightly redesigned rotor could be mounted.

I think 99 might be a "fluffy" year... they started making Interstates in 99, I think all Interstates had
the different wheel/caliper combos...

-Mike
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2014, 05:57:02 AM »

Check the picture and notice the '2 J' cast into the rim just inside the rotor cavity. Your 97 wheel should have a '1 J' there. All '1 J' wheels take the early rotor, all '2 J' wheels take the later rotor. The main difference is the area of the wheel that the rotor is bolted to. 97 to 99 Valks came with a '1 J' wheel. 2000 to 2003 came with a '2 J' wheel whether it is polished and clear coated or not. Polished and clear coated wheels came into play from 2001 and on depending on the model of the Valk. Any year brake caliper and mount will fit without a problem. I have done some research on this and believe that this is correct.
 
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2014, 06:09:25 AM »

I thought I saw it somewhere but don't remember. Thanks.

Dave

Mac...Any Valkyrie rear wheel will fit any year Valkyrie as long the wheel has its correct rotor.  You start changing rotors and thats when you get into trouble.

There is a lot of misleading info flying around.  Its simple they all fit as long as the rotors arent miss-matched.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2014, 07:40:29 AM »

Its simple they all fit as long as the rotors arent miss-matched.

Chris, for my peace of mind, do you think that the information I posted was correct? I agree that as long as you match the rotor to the wheel you are ok. You just have to identify the wheel first.

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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2014, 10:55:21 AM »

Its simple they all fit as long as the rotors arent miss-matched.

Chris, for my peace of mind, do you think that the information I posted was correct? I agree that as long as you match the rotor to the wheel you are ok. You just have to identify the wheel first.

thanks

I bet what you said about 1J and 2J is correct. I think it would also be obvious by just looking at the bolts that hold on the rotor,
I wish we had a picture of both.

I checked the fiche and in 99 STD/Tourers had the old style and Interstates had the new style... I think
all had the new style 2000 and beyond...

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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2014, 12:57:29 PM »

Its simple they all fit as long as the rotors arent miss-matched.

Chris, for my peace of mind, do you think that the information I posted was correct? I agree that as long as you match the rotor to the wheel you are ok. You just have to identify the wheel first.

thanks

I see no problem with what you posted.  Wheel identification can be important, thats good info.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2014, 02:53:09 PM »

I installed 03 anodized aluminum wheels on my '99 Interstate and kept the rotors that came with my Interstate, no problems. Is this what is meant by matching the rotors to the wheels?
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2014, 03:19:09 PM »

I installed 03 anodized aluminum wheels on my '99 Interstate and kept the rotors that came with my Interstate, no problems. Is this what is meant by matching the rotors to the wheels?

Well, kind of.  There are new wheels and older wheels and there are new rotors and older ones.  I guess if you didnt know that you just lucked out that both the wheels were the new kind....
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2014, 06:47:53 PM »

I installed 03 anodized aluminum wheels on my '99 Interstate and kept the rotors that came with my Interstate, no problems. Is this what is meant by matching the rotors to the wheels?

Well, kind of.  There are new wheels and older wheels and there are new rotors and older ones.  I guess if you didnt know that you just lucked out that both the wheels were the new kind....
Maybe I need to take a trip to the casino, I also took the wheels that were on the '99 I/S and installed them on the 2K Tourer, lucky me.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2014, 08:24:04 PM »

Thank you everyone. Great information, I acquired a complete rear wheel and final drive from another member who is trikeing his bike.

Dave
 
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2014, 06:16:45 AM »

Something else you should keep in mind is that you cannot allways go by the year of the bike to determine which wheel you have. I have a 98 Tourer that I bought 3 years ago. Because of improper maintenance by the PO (he left the nylon thrust washer off), the rear wheel and final drive were ruined and I had to replace the rear wheel and final drive.

Now, my 98 Tourer has a 2000 I/S wheel that I bought from ChrisCMA. If I sold the bike (which I won't) and the new owner bought a new 98 rotor to match the year of the bike, it would not work.
I have extra 'old' and 'new' rotors. When the weather permits, I wll get pictures and post them.
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2014, 06:35:57 AM »

Something else you should keep in mind is that you cannot allways go by the year of the bike to determine which wheel you have. I have a 98 Tourer that I bought 3 years ago. Because of improper maintenance by the PO (he left the nylon thrust washer off), the rear wheel and final drive were ruined and I had to replace the rear wheel and final drive.

Now, my 98 Tourer has a 2000 I/S wheel that I bought from ChrisCMA. If I sold the bike (which I won't) and the new owner bought a new 98 rotor to match the year of the bike, it would not work.
I have extra 'old' and 'new' rotors. When the weather permits, I wll get pictures and post them.
Glad that wheel is working for you Indybobm...Thats a good point about not knowing if a switch was made.  If you forget how to read the markings on the wheel, you can rely on knowing the difference between the rotors.  The new one is full thickness all the way and the old one has a thinner center...hens the longer hub on the older wheel.  So if you have a new rotor on a wheel and its working it has to be a new wheel.  If there is an old rotor you have to make sure its not shimmed because you can compensate for that shorter hub by shimming an old rotor that is being used on a new wheel.

I dont recommend that shimming thing, but it has been done
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2014, 04:48:24 PM »


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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2014, 04:52:56 PM »

Yep, that's it!

Probably saved in production costs to make it the new way.

When you have both models in hand, it's easy to see all the differences.

Harder to see the differences in a picture.

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