Skinhead
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« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2014, 04:49:39 PM » |
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Gary's dampers are urethane. I agree there could some chucking going on .
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« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2014, 08:34:08 AM » |
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it basically is floating and relies on the dampers and splines for stability. That is correct. Now you have an additional problem because the wear on the wheel has opened up the clearances allowing more wobbling of the flange. More wobbling of the flange will result in excessive spline wear and damper wear. I'd suggest to increase the thickness of the thrust washer to take up the clearance, trying to get back to a normal condition. *** |
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« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2014, 09:10:16 PM » |
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While a couple more thou. on the thrust washer may help, to get to the root cause I think the dampers need tightened up like you were thinking,, or replaced,,, and it may be time to think about a "wing spline pressout" and flange while the wheel is still in relatively good condition.
I wonder how tight the Garys dampers fit in your other bike??
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Skinhead
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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2014, 06:42:26 AM » |
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While a couple more thou. on the thrust washer may help, to get to the root cause I think the dampers need tightened up like you were thinking,, or replaced,,, and it may be time to think about a "wing spline pressout" and flange while the wheel is still in relatively good condition.
I wonder how tight the Garys dampers fit in your other bike??
To be clear, I believe this wear was present prior to installing Gary's dampers. They were installed replacing stock dampers on 3/19/2011 at 54,030 miles or 33,645 miles ago. I can't seem to locate any pictures so maybe I neglected to take them at that time. The original dampers were much looser than The Gary's are now, so I think the damage was done. I'll compare the standard dampers when it is time to do the service on it. As far as replacing the splines goes, it doesn't appear to me that there has been a significant amount of wear since the last service, so I may look for a good 'wing rear end just in case, but I think there are still several thousands of miles left on these. |
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pancho
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« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2014, 08:49:10 AM » |
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I got you,, and I do see that the splines could go for a LONG time with proper maintenance, especially if I was convinced that the damage was getting no worse..... Still, for me the priority would be preserving the wheel.
You sure do put the miles on those machines considering where you live...... I don't get that many and I'm riding today.
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« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2014, 08:53:07 AM » |
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You sure do put the miles on those machines considering where you live...... I don't get that many and I'm riding today.
I ain't gettin' any younger, gotta get the riding in while I can. I have to catch up to RJ and Solo1. |
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« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2014, 06:29:04 PM » |
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pancho
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« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2014, 03:58:43 AM » |
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You sure do put the miles on those machines considering where you live...... I don't get that many and I'm riding today.
I ain't gettin' any younger, gotta get the riding in while I can. I have to catch up to RJ and Solo1. HA.... Those are some lofty ambitions brother,,,, better get an oxygen mask, thats rarefied conditions up there. |
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« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2014, 08:23:43 AM » |
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Gary has past away, may he RIP. |
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« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2014, 01:53:54 PM » |
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Simply replacing the dampers will not solve your problem and you will wear the new dampers out relatively quickly.
Until you fix the problem of the extra clearance that's a result of the wear to the wheel you can expect the splines to
continue to take the brunt of the problem along with the spacers when they start to loosen up, which they will.
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« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2014, 07:55:58 PM » |
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« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2014, 04:18:36 PM » |
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Gary has past away, may he RIP. Sorry to hear about him passing. Last i heard he had qiut making the dampers. My he rest in peace and glad he knew the Valk as his M/C before passing. |
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« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2014, 10:25:04 AM » |
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This thread got me thinkin, dat I need ta get off my ass,,, n' buy a bike jack.  I've kinda decided on dis,,,, one... ??? http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-professional-1500-lb-motorcycle-atv-jack/p-00950191000PAny one think they are junk, errr, know of a,,, better choice? I use that one, with the wooden lift adapter. No problems with it. |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2014, 04:48:07 PM » |
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Hey, 98 Pacecar, there's a method I use to remove and service the rear end without jacking the bike up more than 2-3". Much safer and you don't need an adapter. I just don't like the idea of over 750lbs. sitting there 2' in the air. If it starts to tip over you're not going to stop it. If it's only a couple inches off the deck, it will just lay over on the guards.
Shoot me a PM if interested.
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