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Some folks here seem to like their new Valkyries fine, I hated mine. I knew it was an awesome bike the minute I test rode it, but I found it almost impossible to make it comfortable.  Here's what I did... I'm leaving out the many less radical things I tried that didn't work. The root of the problem is those lame handlebars and the dinky one inch risers. I fixed that with some Baron 4 inch pullback risers and Baron riser extensions. The extensions moved the risers back an inch and raised them an inch and allowed me to vary the distance between the risers to fit whatever handlebars I chose... I chose 1500 Valkyrie bars, of course  ... The tape was just to register the extenders while I was tightening the bolts.    The new Valkyrie's risers are rubber mounted, and there's a collar around the stud as it exits the riser. Without this collar, there would be a void under my new risers. There's a certain size of washer that is perfect, but the hole in the washer needs drilled out...  So, now I've got some bars/risers with some promise, but none of the control wires and hydraulic lines and throttle cables will reach. I cut the control wires and soldered in nine inches more wire and used this nice wire loom to cover it up...   I ordered longer hydraulic lines from Spiegler. A guy named Matthias helped me order them over the phone. Later when I looked for youtube videos showing installation of Spiegler hydraulic lines, there was Matthias showing an installation and how to use this cool little tool they send along with their lines that allows you to spin the banjo joints on the ends of the lines if needed. I ordered longer throttle cables from Motion Pro. And I ordered a Memphis Shades Hellcat handlebar mounted windshield, the OEM one no longer came anywhere near fitting. You basically have to remove everything but the motor to get to the throttle bodies to change the throttle cables...  The LED pod mounts to little tabs on the OEM risers, so I had to make a bracket for that. Too ugly to even finish...  This one was small enough to finish, but it held the LED pod at the wrong angle...  There's no such thing (well, I don't know where to get it) as 45 degree angle iron (aluminum ), and I don't have any kind of brake to bend aluminum flat stock, so I made what I needed from several layers of roofing tin... I have hand brakes that can bend that. The black stuff is several layers of PlastiCoat...  The bracket is held to the handlebars with a couple of Formotion clock mounts...  The valkyrie is covered with plastic, much of it held on with reusable nylon "push pin" rivets... I only broke one push pin, on one of the shrouds on the front of the motor where the clutch bleeder hides. Honda wants three or four dollars each for the push pins, I got a box of 60 from Amazon for $19.99... Anywho... executing this whole thing has taken me months, but it has been worth it. I got the bike back together Monday night, and after a few windshield adjustments it was feeling pretty good. I rode it about 100 miles today, and felt something was still lacking. As I rode I tried to figure out what needed changing, and decided the angle of the backrest (oh yeah, I have a Corbin seat) need to come forward just a bit. I made the change and went another 20 miles, and it was almost perfect.  If tiny adjustments are making great improvements, I must be almost there... Here's the bike pretty much as it is now (finger prints and all, I haven't washed it since tearing it all apart)...   As small as it is, the windshield is nice, and can be adjusted a bunch of different ways. I don't like to look through windshields, this one is plenty tall enough... it could be wider. I'll probably keep fine tuning its adjustment, and maybe rotate the bars a little, but my ride today, especially after I rotated the backrest forward a little, was great. -Mike |
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2015, 03:01:32 PM » |
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Good work. Glad you were able to finally get some satisfactory results. Do you have a link to the Amazon site with those push pins. I went through upgrading the stereo system on my F6B and lost one. I bought a couple from the dealer and you're right it was like $3.50 a piece. Definitely would like to get a deal on those to have on hand for any future work.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2015, 03:33:02 PM » |
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Mike, I am thinking when you retire you could go into business doing this mod for others. Say parts for cost and shipping, and about $3000 in labor. (if that's enough) I think Honda ought to be shown what a real headache it is to make their bike handlebars comfortably ergonomic for the average cruiser rider. Honda may have aimed the new F6C at the crotch rocket crowd, but that would be a mistake, and I believe the lion's share of new owners would be wing/cruiser people. To my knowledge, nearly all 1500 Valk riders (long, tall, short or fat) add longer/taller risers to their bikes to make them cruiser friendly, and except for throttle cable rerouting for 5.5" risers, they are otherwise straight bolt ups, and a half hour, one-beer project. The same is true for any number of Hog and Metric cruisers. Seat, bag, shield, and hwy peg issues may be solved by simply throwing money at them and some straightforward bolt-up, but obviously not this project. Way to stick with it. The Navy Seabees have nothing on you..... The difficult, we do right away, the impossible takes a little longer.(Perhaps one picture to add to the collection would be those parts that will not go back on) |
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2015, 03:52:04 PM » |
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Good work. Glad you were able to finally get some satisfactory results. Do you have a link to the Amazon site with those push pins. I went through upgrading the stereo system on my F6B and lost one. I bought a couple from the dealer and you're right it was like $3.50 a piece. Definitely would like to get a deal on those to have on hand for any future work. I got these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GXJIWRA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1You might want to wait a few days and find out if I made a good choice... -Mike |
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2015, 03:56:19 PM » |
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Perhaps one picture to add to the collection would be those parts that will not go back on
handlebars, risers, windshield and brackets. I'd put a Utopia backrest on the OEM seat, it
was a good backrest and the OEM seat might be OK with it and these handlebars, so maybe
it shouldn't be in the picture...
EDIT: oh yeah, and a pile of cables and hydraulic lines.
-Mike
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2015, 06:34:46 PM » |
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I would like to request, please, that you might post a beauty pic showing the whole bike, when you can, including the new mods of course. Thanks for posting.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2015, 07:06:04 PM » |
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I would like to request, please, that you might post a beauty pic showing the whole bike, when you can, including the new mods of course. Thanks for posting.
I lost the picture for this post. Here's one from 2024...  -Mike |
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2015, 04:35:03 PM » |
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Good work. Glad you were able to finally get some satisfactory results. Do you have a link to the Amazon site with those push pins. I went through upgrading the stereo system on my F6B and lost one. I bought a couple from the dealer and you're right it was like $3.50 a piece. Definitely would like to get a deal on those to have on hand for any future work. I got these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GXJIWRA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1You might want to wait a few days and find out if I made a good choice... -Mike They arrived today. I made a good choice. Among the mix are some just like the one I broke, I put it in right away. -Mike |
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2015, 01:23:32 PM » |
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To keep from hijacking a post about useful motorcycle knowledge gleaned from the instructables.com web site over on the 1500 tech board, I'll drag this part of the thread back here... If you had a design, Clearview might make one for you too.
I want a Hellcat, but X wider, Y taller. Maybe a paper pattern.
Also, as you mount it low over the front parts (like a partial fairing), it seems that a gradient tint black on the low part (like Memphis shades) would partially hide some of the parts you would like to hide (per your earlier posts).
Just got back from a comfortable windy ride... studied the shield some more, trying to think of what would make it just right.... The hateful OEM windshield is just the right size and is only hateful because of the straight up-and-down way Honda mounted it. It has a nice chrome bracket on it. I held it up in front of the Hellcat, if it could somehow be mounted at fork-angle, it would be just the right amount wider and taller. But there's no way the Hellcat's mounts would work with it. Two sets of Hellcat mounts probably would, though. If the rods were a little longer. I measured the rods... .38 inches... that's 3/8 inch... I just ordered a replacement set of Hellcat hardware and 72 inches of 3/8 inch stainless steel rod... if it works, it will still be handlebar mounted, but the hardware and shield bracket will all be "factory made"... Hellcat hardware is pretty nice I think, and almost infinitely adjustable...   -Mike |
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2015, 02:45:56 PM » |
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Lookin' good......Now you need to put a car tar on there. You know just to piss certain people off. The handle bars look to be a good fit. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2015, 10:42:12 AM » |
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Hi Mike
From woofred1832 The oem handlebars dont bother me.
I have a 2014 valkyrie that I had the honda bags put on,and hyw pegs, I used the honda wire harness but mounted other led driving lites, and adapted after market windshield to the bulavard brakets I would like to post pictures. How do I do that? ALSO would like to find after market sissy bar, some thing les than the $275 honda wants for thiers
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2015, 02:46:47 PM » |
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Hi Mike
From woofred1832 The oem handlebars dont bother me.
I have a 2014 valkyrie that I had the honda bags put on,and hyw pegs, I used the honda wire harness but mounted other led driving lites, and adapted after market windshield to the bulavard brakets I would like to post pictures. How do I do that? ALSO would like to find after market sissy bar, some thing les than the $275 honda wants for thiers
You have to put your pictures on the Internet somewhere, then type the URL here, like this: http://sites.google.com/site/hubcapsite3/howifixed/perfect.jpgIf you get that far we can see your pictures by clicking on the URL... there's one more step to learn to display the image instead of the URL... I wondered about using the inexpensive, but plug-and-play, Honda wiring harness, and some other LED lights in the cowl... is that what you did? I can't wait to see your pictures, and find out more details about the LED lights you chose... -Mike |
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2015, 03:44:25 PM » |
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Hey, Hub ...
I modified the rake of the windscreen several months ago, too. If you do a search you'll see how I did it and some photos of how it looks.
It's in the same/same plane as the front forks. I look over the windscreen, there is air coming from under the front of the screen to my chest area, less buffeting than oem, more hand/arm air, too. Cost was Zero !
Check it out.
Nice work on your New Valk, Hub.
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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2015, 04:27:31 PM » |
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Hey, Hub ...
I modified the rake of the windscreen several months ago, too. If you do a search you'll see how I did it and some photos of how it looks.
It's in the same/same plane as the front forks. I look over the windscreen, there is air coming from under the front of the screen to my chest area, less buffeting than oem, more hand/arm air, too. Cost was Zero !
Check it out.
Nice work on your New Valk, Hub.
I saw that... with my handlebars, I had to ditch all the OEM mounting hardware... I got mine mounted today... I'm looking through it, so I'll probably not be happy till I cut it down a little, but a bit at a time... I got started on mounting the Givi trunk today, and I have to hook up my heated gear plug in...   -Mike |
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2015, 08:50:18 AM » |
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Mike I got my led lites fron a china co DHgate.com took a while to find them but they do have them I also got 2 led lite strips just havent figured out where to put them or how and where to wire them in Still cant figure out how to post pics yet....since I am computer dumb I need step by step instructions thanks
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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2015, 09:04:02 AM » |
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Hey, Hub ...
I modified the rake of the windscreen several months ago, too. If you do a search you'll see how I did it and some photos of how it looks.
It's in the same/same plane as the front forks. I look over the windscreen, there is air coming from under the front of the screen to my chest area, less buffeting than oem, more hand/arm air, too. Cost was Zero !
Check it out.
Nice work on your New Valk, Hub.
I saw that... with my handlebars, I had to ditch all the OEM mounting hardware... I got mine mounted today... I'm looking through it, so I'll probably not be happy till I cut it down a little, but a bit at a time... I got started on mounting the Givi trunk today, and I have to hook up my heated gear plug in...   -Mike looking good Mike now if you could do something with those ugly looking rat pods |
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2015, 10:05:45 AM » |
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now if you could do something with those ugly looking rat podsI'm not crazy about the look either (esp being open in the front), but whenever I see a picture of the bike, they always remind of a big shoulder muscle-builder. It is a muscle bike. 
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2015, 11:25:57 PM » |
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now if you could do something with those ugly looking rat podsIt will always be a stripped down Goldwing. Changing the radiators is beyond me. I ordered the Corbin bags the other day. Now that the bike is comfortable I find myself daydreaming about riding it... -Mike "instead of daydreaming about burning it  "
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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2015, 06:43:59 AM » |
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Aluminum Angle - Ace Hardware in 8 ft length - great stuff for making brackets
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now if you could do something with those ugly looking rat podsI'm not crazy about the look either (esp being open in the front), but whenever I see a picture of the bike, they always remind of a big shoulder muscle-builder. It is a muscle bike. I'm thinking more like this  |
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2015, 08:10:53 AM » |
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A couple of people have looked at this thread recently, interested in seeing the details of how I tried to make my Valkyrie comfortable... A couple of details I might not have emphasized enough... multiple windshield readjustments and fiddlings... the windshield is in pretty good shape now, I'm real happy with it. I made all the control cables and wires and lines nine inches longer. I probably could have gotten away with seven inches, but if you make them too short, you're up the creek. I perceive no problems with nine inches...  -Mike |
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2015, 07:09:45 PM » |
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Mike that is the best looking new Valk I have seen |
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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2015, 04:35:49 AM » |
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Mike that is the best looking new Valk I have seen Thanks! -Mike "The ergonomics of a Valkyrie on a stripped-down Goldwing..." |
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« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2015, 08:41:03 AM » |
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Mike I agree with Bighead on that...she is sharp and the best looking new Valk I've seen!!! I haven't been on here in a while and read about all the improvements you made and all I gotta say- It was worth it! Congrats!! |
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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2015, 09:14:21 AM » |
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When my new valk grows up, I want it to look just like hubcapsc's. With a few minor changes. Also, I have to save up for those corbin bags and seat..
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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2015, 10:39:56 AM » |
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When my new valk grows up, I want it to look just like hubcapsc's. With a few minor changes. Also, I have to save up for those corbin bags and seat..
All the hours and money paid off. I think the hard bags and seats make it. |
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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2015, 11:00:51 AM » |
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When my new valk grows up, I want it to look just like hubcapsc's. With a few minor changes. Also, I have to save up for those corbin bags and seat..
All the hours and money paid off. I think the hard bags and seats make it. The bags and the seat were easy (except for the $)... the bars and the shield make the bike, the seat and the bags would be a waste for me without them... -Mike |
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2015, 12:09:53 PM » |
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When my new valk grows up, I want it to look just like hubcapsc's. With a few minor changes. Also, I have to save up for those corbin bags and seat..
All the hours and money paid off. I think the hard bags and seats make it. The bags and the seat were easy (except for the $)... the bars and the shield make the bike, the seat and the bags would be a waste for me without them... -Mike Yes the bars and shield was a must for comfort, but the bags and seat makes it look better imo. |
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« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2015, 04:22:15 AM » |
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Thanks for the link to your mods hubcapsc. I just got my 1800 last week
and am catching up with 1800 Tech Board. I'll bookmark this for later
when I know what I need for the new Valkyrie. Had a 2001 Interstate
that never let me down. Hoping the same for the 1800.
Also interested in the fog lights that were posted. Dual fog and signal. Neat.
Hoping to find something like that for the back for more visibility from
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« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2015, 07:41:20 AM » |
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OH you will love the 1800 I had a 98 1500 c and when honda brought the valkyrie back I knew I had to have one Got mine last oct. and not even a year old and I have 9000 miles on it ...Thats not bad since I live in northern Ill close to Wis border... leaving to go to door county tomarrow... any way this is a great site ENJOY.......................
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« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2015, 05:37:21 AM » |
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Some folks here seem to like their new Valkyries fine, I hated mine. I knew it was an awesome bike the minute I test rode it, but I found it almost impossible to make it comfortable. Here's what I did... I'm leaving out the many less radical things I tried that didn't work. The root of the problem is those lame handlebars and the dinky one inch risers. I fixed that with some Baron 4 inch pullback risers and Baron riser extensions. The extensions moved the risers back an inch and raised them an inch and allowed me to vary the distance between the risers to fit whatever handlebars I chose... I chose 1500 Valkyrie bars, of course ... The tape was just to register the extenders while I was tightening the bolts. Wow, a lot of work but I get it. I probably not as tall as you. I want my bars to come back at least one inch. Height is OK. Do you see a solution for this? Thanks, Brad |
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« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2015, 06:08:31 AM » |
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Wow, a lot of work but I get it. I probably not as tall as you. I want my bars to come back at least one inch. Height is OK. Do you see a solution for this?
You'll probably have to change the risers to something like I have.
If you don't, whatever different bars you choose will probably not clear
the key at some point as you turn the bars from lock to lock. Another 1800
rider (bscrive) made his own radical handlebars that cleared the key without
changing risers.
I'm just 5-11... If I ever find a set of bars that are pretty much like 1500 Valkyrie bars
but that have an extra inch of pullback, I might give them a try... I extended all the
cables and lines and wires 9 inches, and I have a little left to work with. The way it is
now, though, is extremely acceptable... OEM bars, both 1500 and 1800, have the little
knobs on them that hold the OEM style tie wraps, and they have little holes in them
in the right places to register the tabs on the control boxes, I like that pretty much and
wouldn't want to have to work around their absence... the little holes on the 1500
bars were almost in the wrong place, but I have my control boxes and their associated
lever perches placed pretty comfortably.
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September 2018...  Mods: Russell seat, big handlebars, Traxxion forks and shocks and steering head bearings, Corbin bags, Utopia backrest... I got a two-inch-shorter (seven inches longer than OEM) set of throttle cables made and installed them, nine inches was too long for the throttle cables... I have two sizes of GIVI top cases, they're only on the bike for trips... I still imagine the handlebars being a little different... I never measured my Valkyrie handlebars while they were off, I found these measurements on the web: diameter:1" height:6" width:33" pullback:14" center:9" clamp-area:3" x 5" part-number:53100-MZ0-000 While riding I paid attention to the slightly different place and angle I wished my hands were at, and using the above measurements I think I might try these 32″ width, 5″ rise, 15-1/2″ pullback Yamaha handlebars: Baron Custom Accessories BA-7308-00I'm not sure what makes them "Yamaha", but they're one inch bars... -Mike |
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I am in the market for highway pegs and wondered which ones you bought? You are very discerning and I would appreciate knowing what you decided on.
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September 2018...  Mods: Russell seat, big handlebars, Traxxion forks and shocks and steering head bearings, Corbin bags, Utopia backrest... I got a two-inch-shorter (seven inches longer than OEM) set of throttle cables made and installed them, nine inches was too long for the throttle cables... I have two sizes of GIVI top cases, they're only on the bike for trips... I still imagine the handlebars being a little different... I never measured my Valkyrie handlebars while they were off, I found these measurements on the web: diameter:1" height:6" width:33" pullback:14" center:9" clamp-area:3" x 5" part-number:53100-MZ0-000 While riding I paid attention to the slightly different place and angle I wished my hands were at, and using the above measurements I think I might try these 32″ width, 5″ rise, 15-1/2″ pullback Yamaha handlebars: Baron Custom Accessories BA-7308-00I'm not sure what makes them "Yamaha", but they're one inch bars... -Mike Mike, If I had known that you were looking for another set of bars, I would have given you my 1-1/4" set that I made for my bike. I decided to make a set of 1-1/2" bars because I like the larger size. I ended up giving them to a guy on the F6C site. I still have my original 1" bars that I made. I found them a little too small diameter because of the length, but you may find them fine. You can have them for the cost of shipping. The last set of bars cost $80USD to ship to Ohio. I just would need to find another large box to ship them. Brian |
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2018, 05:11:46 AM » |
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Thanks for the offer Brian... I need to try lowering the
handlebars I have a little and maybe also adjust my
backrest to scoot me a tiny bit forward, that might do
what I want... I'm just thinking out loud about different handlebars
for now... I was even looking at the helibar web $ite, they have
a 1 inch cruiser/bagger bar. The way you can turn the handgrip
part of helibars out at arbitrary angles seems pretty useful...
People still look at this thread occasionally, so I wanted to add
the updated picture to show that the handlebar change has worked
for me in the long run...
-Mike
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bscrive
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Out with the old...in with the wooohoooo!!!!
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« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2018, 06:39:41 AM » |
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No problem Mike if you ever decide that you want them just give me a p.m..
I hope you are doing fine with that hurricane where you are in South Carolina. It's a pretty nasty storm with the rain coming down in buckets.
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2025, 09:55:23 AM » |
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2025 I guess people might still look at this thread, it's been looked at 11,000 times. I just noticed all the pictures were dead due to yet another out-of-my-control innernet reorganization. I pointed all the image links in the thread I could back to hubcapsc.com, the images will stay there until the lights go out there. I still have both Valkyries. Never any trouble with the modifications to the 1800. Been all over ...  -Mike |
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