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Author Topic: Does the Valk have a slight edge over the F6B in HP?  (Read 3404 times)
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« on: May 14, 2015, 08:29:46 PM »

I read the the Valkyrie has freer breathing intake and exhaust, but don't know if this is true.

Ok I'm 6'5 and a 36" reach. What we I need to ride comfortable 98% 2 up. I have a set of Hondaline bags that look like they might fit. I know Ultimate is not making seats. I also know, like my Valks I will need some highway pegs right away.

I'm thinking about seriously pulling the trigger so thanks for your help because i know little.
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2015, 10:28:07 PM »

I don't know if anyone had an F6B dynoed, but I had my Valk true dynoed at 500 miles on the odometer.  I have the print out somewhere here but it was 107HP/112FtLBS at the rear wheel. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2015, 04:36:25 AM »

I don't know, but both have more than enough power to get in all kinds of trouble (2-up or not).  The lighter weight of the F6C should give it a bit of an edge in any event.

The hondaline bags can probably be made to fit the Goldwing Valk F6C, but with the rear fender swells, there will likely be a very wide gap between them and the fender.  Of course, the F6B solves this problem entirely (and you get music).
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2015, 06:18:18 AM »

i can’t comment on the accuracy and reliability of these sites..

F6B stats:

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/04/22/harley-davidson-cvo-road-glide-vs-honda-gold-wing-f6b-deluxe-comparison-test/

Horsepower 103.66 @ 5580 rpm
Torque 109.9 ft.-lb. @ 4160 rpm


this site claims the 2014/2015 F6C Valkyrie to have the following:
http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/honda/2014-honda-gold-wing-valkyrie-review-first-ride.html

118 hp and 125 ft.-lb. of torque


the F6C Valkyrie stock with no accessories will definitely have a higher power to weight ratio - but after customizing with bags and 2 up seat, who knows how much it brings the two bikes to a closer matched power-to-weight ratio.


not sure if anyone will agree with me but the F6B will have less customizability compared to the F6C Valkyrie ( IMHO )... But if you love the F6B stock and only need an Ultimate 2 up custom seat, I think you would have a pretty sweet ride. F6B just wasn't the look i was looking for when i compared it to the F6C Valkyrie. To each their own though!
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2015, 07:53:49 PM »

i can’t comment on the accuracy and reliability of these sites..

F6B stats:

http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/04/22/harley-davidson-cvo-road-glide-vs-honda-gold-wing-f6b-deluxe-comparison-test/

Horsepower 103.66 @ 5580 rpm
Torque 109.9 ft.-lb. @ 4160 rpm


this site claims the 2014/2015 F6C Valkyrie to have the following:
http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/honda/2014-honda-gold-wing-valkyrie-review-first-ride.html

118 hp and 125 ft.-lb. of torque


the F6C Valkyrie stock with no accessories will definitely have a higher power to weight ratio - but after customizing with bags and 2 up seat, who knows how much it brings the two bikes to a closer matched power-to-weight ratio.


not sure if anyone will agree with me but the F6B will have less customizability compared to the F6C Valkyrie ( IMHO )... But if you love the F6B stock and only need an Ultimate 2 up custom seat, I think you would have a pretty sweet ride. F6B just wasn't the look i was looking for when i compared it to the F6C Valkyrie. To each their own though!

Those figures for the Valk are claimed ratings and are at the crank. The 1800 Goldwings have long been known to output 118 HP at the crank. Have a hard time finding actual dyno results. They are very much the same albeit the Valkyrie has a weight advantage.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2015, 02:12:52 PM »

I read the the Valkyrie has freer breathing intake and exhaust, but don't know if this is true.

Ok I'm 6'5 and a 36" reach. What we I need to ride comfortable 98% 2 up. I have a set of Hondaline bags that look like they might fit. I know Ultimate is not making seats. I also know, like my Valks I will need some highway pegs right away.

I'm thinking about seriously pulling the trigger so thanks for your help because i know little.

Were I you, I would ride both. I am a big guy also and found the Valkyrie to be cramped and the bars not where I wanted them. With my F6B I added some bar pullbacks for $100  and an Ultimate seat and it is every bit as comfortable as my Interstate was. As far as power goes, the Valkyrie most likely has a small edge mostly due to the power to weight ratio. I doubt it is that significant in the real world everyday riding situation. I would be WAY more concerned with comfort than that extra small bit of power.

From a customizing standpoint, the majority of Gold Wing accessories will fit an F6B and there is no shortage of them!
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2015, 08:24:45 PM »

I read the the Valkyrie has freer breathing intake and exhaust, but don't know if this is true.

Ok I'm 6'5 and a 36" reach. What we I need to ride comfortable 98% 2 up. I have a set of Hondaline bags that look like they might fit. I know Ultimate is not making seats. I also know, like my Valks I will need some highway pegs right away.

I'm thinking about seriously pulling the trigger so thanks for your help because i know little.

Were I you, I would ride both. I am a big guy also and found the Valkyrie to be cramped and the bars not where I wanted them. With my F6B I added some bar pullbacks for $100  and an Ultimate seat and it is every bit as comfortable as my Interstate was. As far as power goes, the Valkyrie most likely has a small edge mostly due to the power to weight ratio. I doubt it is that significant in the real world everyday riding situation. I would be WAY more concerned with comfort than that extra small bit of power.

From a customizing standpoint, the majority of Gold Wing accessories will fit an F6B and there is no shortage of them!

Thanks Dave, i came to the same conclusion also. At my age comfort is more important than speed anyway. Wait!!....did i actually say that? Lol Grin
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