Anyone familiar with this concerning our Vets?

[stormrider]

Got this email and haven't snoped it so not sure of the validity or are the folks sending this just looking for donations by posting this? If true though, what the heck? I agree, our vets certainly deserve better than this.



"Obama Pushing Euthanasia on Veterans

HOT PETITION to STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALIST HEALTH CARE TAKEOVER. Please select, sign, and WE WILL FAX your petition automatically to all 52 "Blue-Dog" House Democrats and/or all 100 Senators, right away (saving you hours of labor!) We've already sent over 400,000 faxes, can you help us reach 1,000,000? The campaign is working and Americans are responding now lets make it work in the Senate.

WSJ: Obama and Shinseki now pressuring Veterans toward Euthanasia

The Wall Street Journal just published a shocking editorial written by a respected University President, confirming the Obama Administration is now using VA hospitals to order doctors to pressure all military veterans to sign "pull the plug" do-not-resuscitate orders, hastening their premature deaths through mandatory "end of life" counseling.

President Jim Towey of Saint Vincent's College, founder of the non-profit "Aging With Dignity" and former White House Director of faith based initiatives, wrote a blistering expose entitled "The Death Book For Veterans," revealing President Obama's new Veterans Administration (VA) directive, presumably signed by VA Secretary, General (ret.) Eric Shinseki, which mandates all veterans' primary care physicians must graphically discuss "end of life planning" with all VA patients (not merely those nearing death), and must refer them to "Your Life, Your Choices," a book that openly encourages Euthanasia and was written with guidance from the group formerly known as the Hemlock Society. That same pro-suicide group now boasts on their web-site of directly leading the charge to ensure "end of life counseling" is mandated in the Obamacare bill, HR 3200.

On page 21 of the Shinseki-mandated Veteran's Euthanasia book, all military veterans are encouraged to complete a checklist of various scenarios, to decide whether their own life would be "not worth living." For example, the booklet asks veterans 7 questions pressuring veterans to sign a "living will" that authorizes doctors to terminate your life, if you are:
Living in a nursing home?


Being in a wheelchair?


Not able to "shake the blues?"


Ever heard anyone say, "If I'm a vegetable, pull the plug?"


No longer able to contribute to your family's well-being?


Are you a severe financial burden to your family?


Do you cause severe emotional burden for your family?
"This hurry-up-and-die message is clear and unconscionable," says Towey, "Worse, a July 2009 VA directive [presumably signed by Shinseki] instructs its primary care physicians to raise advance care planning with all VA patients and to refer them to 'Your Life, Your Choices.' [the Euthanasia booklet.] Not just those of advanced age and debilitated condition-all patients. America's 24 million veterans deserve better." Towey recommends a "five wishes" living-will document that does not pressure suicide.

But instead the Hemlock Society booklet is now MANDATED for doctor referral to all patients in all VA hospitals, heaping more evidence upon the growing list of proofs that the Obama Administration is LYING TO THE PUBLIC by denying their health care plan pushes Euthanasia on the elderly. They already do it today. Just imagine if ALL hospitals become government-run like the VA.

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[Jack]

I seriously doubt anyone, vet or not, will be "pressured" by counseling.  btw, any good health care team will currently explain the options to a terminal patient.  It isn't like they are saying blow your own head off.  They are just explaining that health care may be extending the inevitable and it IS the patients choice whether to continue meds, etc.  I don't neccessarily like the way the health plan may turn out but I don't see a problem with requiring counseling.

[Scanner]

Anyone believing this crap should consider Euthanasia. If you're "not sure of the validity" why the hell do you post this garbage?

[stormrider]

Obviously to get a rise out of you Scanner. So, how do you validate that it is garbage? Can you refudiate it? That is why I was asking. Refudiate it with the facts instead of getting upset. And if you don't like my posts then why bother opening them up or is it your mission in life to point out my ignorance? It must snow or rain alot where you're at.

[Scanner]

Sort through your own garbage.  Better yet, send them a couple K and you'll feel much better..  

[Jeff K]

http://www.rihlp.org/pubs/Your_life_your_choices.pdf


http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/nf09/nfaug09/nf082409-1.htm

[PAVALKER]

I seriously doubt anyone, vet or not, will be "pressured" by counseling.  btw, any good health care team will currently explain the options to a terminal patient.  It isn't like they are saying blow your own head off.  They are just explaining that health care may be extending the inevitable and it IS the patients choice whether to continue meds, etc.  I don't neccessarily like the way the health plan may turn out but I don't see a problem with requiring counseling.

  Maybe this counseling should be conducted "pre-birth" to the parents, why go thru the expense of raising a child when it is inevitable that it will ultimately result in their death.  It will save the child from having to experience the hard knocks of life, save on education costs, might even save on social program costs (unemployment, SS, Medicare etc etc).   Look at all the money that could be saved by the parents, the prenatal care medical expenses and of course the overall healthcare of the individual.



Yes, that was sarcasim......

[Puffs Daddy]

Obviously to get a rise out of you Scanner. So, how do you validate that it is garbage? Can you refudiate it? That is why I was asking. Refudiate it with the facts instead of getting upset. And if you don't like my posts then why bother opening them up or is it your mission in life to point out my ignorance? It must snow or rain alot where you're at.

How about the President of Vietnam Veterans of America "refudiating" (sic) it?

    Health Care Reform Hysteria: ‘Death Book’ Scare Tactics Inexcusable  

    (Washington, D.C.) – “Health care reform is a legitimate topic for discussion and debate,” said John Rowan, National President of Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA), “but it is outrageous for some partisans to politicize the debate by targeting veterans with blatant scare tactics.

    “The issue du jour is the so-called Death Book for veterans,” Rowan said. In an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, the person who headed the office of faith-based initiatives for the Bush White House attacked ‘Your Life, Your Choices,’ a 52-page booklet of end-of-life options to be considered by veterans and their families that has been given out by the VA as per federal law.  This booklet, developed in 1997 when Bill Clinton was President, was given to veterans and their families, if requested, under a directive in 2007 from President Bush.  It was updated last month, under President Obama.

    “This booklet was developed with guidance from clerics,” Rowan said, “and it addresses options most of us and our loved ones will have to sort through as we live our final years.  To play politics with veterans’ end-of-life choices is not only irresponsible politically, but it is cruel.  We agree with Congressman Joe Sestak, a retired Navy Admiral, who is outraged at the ‘Death Book’ charges and has called them ‘inexcusable.’

    “It is our hope that sane minds reject fear-mongering, and that veterans recognize these scare tactics for what they are,” Rowan said."

P.S. If you're actually interested in checking the validity of crap such as that you posted, try www.factcheck.org or http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/.

Of course, that would reduce your opportunity to spread radical right wing trash on the internet.

[Sludge]

Yea, this is complete garbage IMHO. 

If you're "not sure of the validity" why the hell do you post this garbage?

However, Michael Moore makes entire "documentaries" (I use that term loosely) out of stuff like this. 

[Hoser]

Obviously to get a rise out of you Scanner. So, how do you validate that it is garbage? Can you refudiate it? That is why I was asking. Refudiate it with the facts instead of getting upset. And if you don't like my posts then why bother opening them up or is it your mission in life to point out my ignorance? It must snow or rain alot where you're at.

Stormy, you're gettin really good at pulling scanner's chain.  hoser

[stormrider]

Hey Hoser, Howard Hughes once said, "I'd rather have 1% of the effort of 100 people than 100% of just my effort." They don't see I got em working for me. I'm too lazy to look up all the emails I get and got better things to do, so they are doing it for me. Thanks guys, cleared up another one for me.

[asfltdncr]

Are you crazy?

[fstsix]

Crises Crises Crises Fear fear (NEVER LET A GOOD CRISES GO TO WAIST) I ponder to think who are the champions of Fear Mongols are ???????  Mow H1n1 Fear Crises Crises. No wonder everybody is scared to death!!!. Just to rush their agenda through.