Thor32
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« on: December 23, 2015, 05:04:11 PM » |
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I prefer to not change my bike but find my lower right back hurts from rides, so I'm curious as to your pearls of wisdom.... 
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2015, 05:18:08 PM » |
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The choice I'd say isn't there.
I don't mind an OEM seat, if it were comfy. I have a very boney ass, and traded the OEM seat out for a Corbin. I've not noticed a difference in comfort of one over the other. I'll be installing highway pegs and trying out the Corbin seat and the OEM seat and seeing if with different leg position will there be a notable difference between the two seats.. I don't believe there will be.
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2015, 05:23:18 PM » |
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I replaced mine before I got my handlebars and hiway pegs worked out. My OEM has a utopia backrest, I'm not sure it wouldn't be OK now... I really like the Corbin, though it is kind of hard by the end of a tank of gas...  -Mike
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2015, 05:33:32 PM » |
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I dont care who makes the seat but I want one that is comfortable and looks good. The Corbin is about as good looking as it gets and I find it very comfortable. The OEM seat you sit on top of but the Corbin you sit in, that alone makes quite a bit of difference. The support if you plant your butt all the way back in the pocket of the seat is very good. 
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dans2014
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2015, 06:11:53 PM » |
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 There is a guy selling a gel pad that attaches with Velcro straps on ebay I may try. It looks like it would be good for long day rides. Ebay item no. 151915558948
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2015, 06:16:49 PM » |
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I don't have a problem with the OEM seat. I've sat on worse! My only complaint is it gets a little warm (and soft) in hot weather. Here is my fix.  Home made Bead Ryder, pretty much 24/7...
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bscrive
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2015, 06:26:42 PM » |
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I hate the oem seat. I can only ride for about an hour on that piece of crap until my tail bone and butt starts to hurt. If it wasn't for my air hawk I wouldn't have been able to do much riding this year.
I decided that it was time for a good seat, so I have sent my piece of crap oem seat to Russell to be redone. I have a date of Jan 12 for the seat to be done. I was hoping that the CAD was going to get better, but it seems to be getting worst, so I just bit the bullet, and sent it out today. I have always wanted a Russell Daylong seat, and now I will have one.
I considered the Corbin seat that is on eBay, but the Russell seat was only a few hundred more, and it will be brand new, never sat in. Just have to break it in.
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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2015, 06:30:46 PM » |
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My BMW came with a Corbin and I hated it , too hard and slippery , used the OEM seat .
Have read complaints 'bout the same thing , Corbin's too hard .
Never read anything bad 'bout Russell Day Long seats . If I were a long distance rider , Russell day long is what I would use , or Meyer seats , not a Corbin .
There are lots of alternatives to Corbin
That's just my opinion
Kidd
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2015, 06:19:34 AM » |
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I am also looking for a new seat. The stock seat isn't bad as long as I stay seated in the forward portion of the seat, if I scoot back too far then the width of the seat causes me discomfort on the insides of my legs. My problem with all these replacement seats is that they make an assumption about my build as they all move you up and back - as if I'm tall and fat  That really !&#$ me the @!!!!! off. I'm growing tired of this entire industry automatically assuming that every male is over-average height at 6 foot or greater. So until some $%&! seat company understands this, and actually makes comfortable seats that average height riders feel comfortable on, they can suck wind and I'm keeping my money in my pocket.
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2015, 07:26:15 AM » |
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I know Russell ( and many other seat companies ) wnats several photos of you on your bike so they can make the necessary adjustments They are not assuming anything , it's a custom fit , if it ain't right , send it back for adjustments . Better yet , drive in and get it done right in person
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2015, 07:59:49 AM » |
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The Russell web site definitely states that the Day-Long is higher than stock and a bit wider, too - butt not to my liking. I want same height, narrower in width where it meets my thighs, greater 'cup' in the shape, good cushioning (a bit softer) and same shape at the nose for easy foot-planting.
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2015, 08:19:11 AM » |
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They can do that , it's a custom seat , made to your liking , if you do not specify , they will build it like what you read on their site Here's where I was going to go for a custom seat , decided the drive there was too much on my BMW. Well , really it was I 40 that was too much , it's a rough road http://billmayer-saddles.com/
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2015, 09:01:34 AM » |
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No opinion here. My body starts aching all over to include my posterior rear exterior and interior when I put in the miles. I'm also 35, and have some ways to go before I get towards the *cough* vintage butt.  Not sure how many of you have vintage butt, but it would surely factor into liking the seat.
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2015, 09:16:25 AM » |
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I have read that over and over , after I put 2K to 4K miles on my Corbin , it is now finally comfortable . Yes , they look really nice , but when you are sitting on it , looks do not matter
They shore are popular , though
Kidd
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« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2015, 09:21:03 AM » |
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I googled " vintage butt " and found a lot of porn sites of women's butts . I am not sure what this means when it comes to you  Kidd No opinion here. My body starts aching all over to include my posterior rear exterior and interior when I put in the miles. I'm also 35, and have some ways to go before I get towards the *cough* vintage butt.  Not sure how many of you have vintage butt, but it would surely factor into liking the seat.
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2015, 10:04:59 AM » |
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 if I ever replace the seat, I'm going with the KonTour seats. Check it out
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2015, 11:30:18 AM » |
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I have read that over and over , after I put 2K to 4K miles on my Corbin , it is now finally comfortable . Yes , they look really nice , but when you are sitting on it , looks do not matter
They shore are popular , though
Kidd
Might not be so popular if there were more options.
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Thor32
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« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2015, 12:36:03 PM » |
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Good feedback..as usual from this group! Thanks
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2015, 04:11:59 PM » |
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Changed mine out to a Corbin. Sucked also. Called them to send back and agreed to modify the seat. Softened it and fixed the issue with side panel removal and seat much improved. Not the best but OK. Russell is only way to go. Design is over 100 yrs old. A saddle. Who would have thought? Design eases stress on your calfs and is designed to put pressure on your whole bottom mostly your cheeks. Not your tail bone. I had a Russell seat on my last bike and was as advertised. Man do I miss that seat. I have the gel pad and air hawk both end up with same problem. Serious tush burn after about an hour. Some use those wood beaded seat covers and swear by them? But to each there own.
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bscrive
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« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2015, 04:17:38 PM » |
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 if I ever replace the seat, I'm going with the KonTour seats. Check it out I looked at them as well, but I still like the look of a Russell seat. Plus, everyone who has had one has good things to say. Before I sent my seat into Russell I had to send them several pictures, and they called me to confirm that the pictures were good for them to use before I sent my seat in. They also do not get payment until they are finished the seat, and ready to send it back. I have called them several times, and someone always answers my questions right away. Really good customer service. KonTour seats not so much. I called them, sent them an email, and I finally heard from them a week later. I know that if I have problems Russell will take care of it. 
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« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2015, 04:19:12 PM » |
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 if I ever replace the seat, I'm going with the KonTour seats. Check it out I looked into these, but there isn't an option for a backrest for the passenger, so that was a no go for me.
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bscrive
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« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2015, 04:21:12 PM » |
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 if I ever replace the seat, I'm going with the KonTour seats. Check it out I looked into these, but there isn't an option for a backrest for the passenger, so that was a no go for me. That was the other nice thing about Russell, they will incorporate my Utopia driver's backrest into the new seat. Saves me some more money.
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« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2015, 05:17:22 PM » |
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It will be great when we can get a full report from what is now two Russell D L 1800c riders. When the weather allows.  However I know what it will be as I had a RDL on one of my 1500s 
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« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2015, 05:20:09 PM » |
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Changed mine out to a Corbin. Sucked also. Called them to send back and agreed to modify the seat. Softened it and fixed the issue with side panel removal and seat much improved. Not the best but OK. Russell is only way to go. Design is over 100 yrs old. A saddle. Who would have thought? Design eases stress on your calfs and is designed to put pressure on your whole bottom mostly your cheeks. Not your tail bone. I had a Russell seat on my last bike and was as advertised. Man do I miss that seat. I have the gel pad and air hawk both end up with same problem. Serious tush burn after about an hour. Some use those wood beaded seat covers and swear by them? But to each there own.
I had the opportunity to sit on this modified Corbin and it really had a lot more padding than mine. Corbin buyers consider this option when making the new purchase. Talk to Tallrider on this.
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« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2015, 06:01:38 PM » |
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I am not sure what you mean , but , anyway , it's Christmas eve , so I forgive you
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« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2015, 09:25:46 PM » |
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They can do that , it's a custom seat , made to your liking , if you do not specify , they will build it like what you read on their site Here's where I was going to go for a custom seat , decided the drive there was too much on my BMW. Well , really it was I 40 that was too much , it's a rough road http://billmayer-saddles.com/I'll have to look at them again. For example, IIRC Russell said that all their designs have the wings, and this cannot be changed; I don't need those super-wide wings because the rear of the seat is currently wide enough to fully encompass my full rear. Making the seat even wider than it is now will only make my discomfort worse if the front is kept at the current shape. I would need Russell to make the wings no wider than the current seat's width, and I don't think that is at all possible for then to do. I want a gunfighter seat, like my Vulcan. Same overall design, about the same seating shape but just with better foam. The tractor seat on my Shadow was about the most comfy ever, replicating that would be great. Everyone but Corbin uses the stock seat pan which means that I can't get what I want: a gunfighter that fits a guy 5'8" and is super comfy. I currently sit 1.25 inches forward of the rear edge of the seat and Corbin just moves you back.
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« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2015, 03:57:28 AM » |
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I am not sure what you mean , but , anyway , it's Christmas eve , so I forgive you
Might not be so popular if there were more options. [/quote] [/quote] The Corbin would not be so popular if there were a lot of (different brand) options available. Example: Ulitmate, Sargent, Mustang and saddlemen come to mind. And now that the first RDL is in pictures and we will soon have reports.............. And so glad to be forgiven 
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« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2015, 07:50:21 AM » |
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Is the Kontour seat really over $1k- that is ridiculous What is the overall cost of the Russell?
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« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2015, 08:21:38 AM » |
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I considered the Kontour because they are in Arizona , however , you can not slide around on a Kontour . You can not adjust your position because the material they use does not allow you to slide your butt .
It's like , well , not sure how to describe it , , scratchy , , sandpaper-ish ,
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« Reply #30 on: December 25, 2015, 09:27:48 AM » |
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Is the Kontour seat really over $1k- that is ridiculous What is the overall cost of the Russell?
My seat came to $790 with the shipping back to me. That also includes recovering my Utopia backrest.
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Thor32
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« Reply #31 on: December 26, 2015, 10:31:15 AM » |
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I'm thinking that backrest may assist in reducing my lower back pain. My butt is fine after rides, it is mostly lower back for me for whatever reason!
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« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2016, 08:00:10 AM » |
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everyones rump is different from all others,and seat comfort is a matter of options, posture, leg length to hwy pegs,solo vs 2up,and miles ridden between potty breaks.....for me so far the stock seat has been ok... not saying its the best, just ok,I like to ride only about 200 miles between stops and usually not more than 600 miles per day... I ride to enjoy what I see, not blast from here to eternity, as fast as possible..... Just my thoughts... I got the bike for the looks and the motor so some things you just have to except, I wouol rather spend $500 to $600 on a nice trip and stay at nice places than on a seat to make my ass feel good..... wishing a HAPPY NEW YEAR to all ride on life is good
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« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2016, 04:57:10 PM » |
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My butt starts to hurt after only a half hour on the stock seat, and it is hurting bad after an hour. My old valk seat was great for me. I could ride for hours with it, and have no problems, but after about 8 years I had to change it. If it wasn't for my airhawk I don't know how I could have rode the bike as much as I did last year. I am really looking forward to getting my seat back from Russell. My build date is Jan. 12, and I have already sent them my seat. I will post pics when I get it back.
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