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Ok so what is the best car tire for the valk and what size.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2016, 08:40:26 AM » |
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Just before InZane I (well the Prez and the independent HD dealer next to his garage) mounted a Yokohama Avid Envigor 205/60R16 92V on my IS. $109 at a local tire dealer. Ask your tire dealer for PN 32122. It works great, nice round edges about the same height as the stock tire. Needed the cage mod on the right rear cage. I put about 1500 miles on it with no issues. YMMV.  Yokohama compared to a Dunlop E3.  |
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2016, 01:36:37 PM » |
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second the yakohama envigor, put it on to replace my other CT in Feb. just came back from a 6290 mile ride with it. handles great. better then my old general HP it replaced.
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2016, 05:23:19 PM » |
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I didn't know there was such a thing as a $55 tire.  It looks pretty good too. |
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2016, 05:47:50 PM » |
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Austone Taxi Tire
Just got back from Inzane on first long trip with tire and loved it. Great on dry and wet as well as curves
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2016, 08:15:45 PM » |
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I didn't know there was such a thing as a $55 tire. It looks pretty good too. it handles pretty good too. I have around 7k on it + unknown mileage from po. noticeable wear from when I got it but i've never gotten much more than 7k out of a mc tire. |
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2016, 09:09:51 PM » |
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I didn't know there was such a thing as a $55 tire. It looks pretty good too. it handles pretty good too. I have around 7k on it + unknown mileage from po. noticeable wear from when I got it but i've never gotten much more than 7k out of a mc tire. Ive had 4 car tires now. Usually about 20k out of each. |
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2016, 07:49:20 AM » |
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I just mounted a Yoko ..... going on the bike today or tomorrow....
I like the look of it and the recommendations from others here on the board..
Had a Falken Ziex for the last 15k.... only reason I'm changing it was a puncture last fall and a plug... But it never lost air over the winter..... Just don't trust a plugged tire....
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2016, 08:31:22 AM » |
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I just mounted a Yoko ..... going on the bike today or tomorrow....
I like the look of it and the recommendations from others here on the board..
Had a Falken Ziex for the last 15k.... only reason I'm changing it was a puncture last fall and a plug... But it never lost air over the winter..... Just don't trust a plugged tire....
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2016, 12:12:48 PM » |
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Is there an advantage, other than some cost savings, to using car tires? Do the flat parts cause any squirreliness?
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2016, 12:40:56 PM » |
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Is there an advantage, other than some cost savings, to using car tires? Do the flat parts cause any squirreliness?
better traction, cheaper, easier availability . The slow speed is initially different but I don't even notice it now. |
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2016, 12:48:39 PM » |
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The Yokohama works well for me...  side view of the tire...  The Yoko in action.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibUAtyggAYs |
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2016, 05:39:01 PM » |
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2016, 07:05:28 PM » |
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Just replaced Goodyear ATT with 44,300 miles on my '97 tourer with the Envigor. And replaced Dunlop MC tire on '99 tourer with Envigor.
The Envigor handling is much better than the Goodyear, so I'm pleased.
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Spectacular pics, Mallett! Carry on, bad azz! Thanks, Valkorado...I was just sniffing the roses but I do try to give the guys something to take a pic of...they probably get tired of the hardleys riding by grinning & waving....  |
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2016, 09:42:58 PM » |
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I've been running the Metzler 880. Went thru three of them averting 9,000 miles. I researched the dark side for two years before I took the plunge. I rode a friends that had a CT and it sucked. Hard to steer in to a turn. Then heard about the Auston taxi tire. I was about to take a long interstate trip and knew it would do in my Metzler so I thought this would be a good test. As soon as I pulled out of the drive I knew I would like it. It sits up a little higher (about 2") but reduces the RPM's about 200. I've rode the Dragon, the Snake, Moonshiners Run, and in the rain dragging the pegs all the way! I've got around 5.000 miles on it and no show of wear.
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2016, 09:35:37 AM » |
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Is there an advantage, other than some cost savings, to using car tires? Do the flat parts cause any squirreliness?
Yes they do. Rain grooves on concrete highways make the bike wiggle a bit. You have to keep a more positive steering input on bends as the bike will try to stand up. You can feel the transition from flat to edge as you lean the bike. After having a car tire on my ST1300 for a west coast and back trip I replaced it with a M/C tire and found for about the first hour I was over correcting the steering due to the quicker response to a M/C tire by a fraction of a second. The car tire will last longer but that's no excuse for not doing regular maintenance to the rear end. |
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2016, 09:36:45 AM » |
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I'm on my second Yokohama Avid Envigor 205/60R16 92V and I will run these tires as long as I can get them. Good traction and round profile. I've ran car tires on three different valks and have over 150K miles on CTs.
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2016, 03:04:06 PM » |
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Is there an advantage, other than some cost savings, to using car tires? Do the flat parts cause any squirreliness?
Yes they do. Rain grooves on concrete highways make the bike wiggle a bit. You have to keep a more positive steering input on bends as the bike will try to stand up. You can feel the transition from flat to edge as you lean the bike. After having a car tire on my ST1300 for a west coast and back trip I replaced it with a M/C tire and found for about the first hour I was over correcting the steering due to the quicker response to a M/C tire by a fraction of a second. The car tire will last longer but that's no excuse for not doing regular maintenance to the rear end. Flat spots on the tire? Yes, they do. All said already. But the current tire choice, Austone Taxi tire, I feel is so close to a mc tire in roundness, there is no draw backs. Larger diameter means lower rpm. I went from the mc tire, to an Austone, to my Valk with a flat ct. Don't like it at all! Heavy counter steer. Staying with it till I get more done on my bike. When I have the time and money, I'll get another Austone. |
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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2016, 07:32:57 AM » |
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I have just put about 100 miles so far on the Yokohama and it IS a much better handling tire than the Falken was.... The low speed handling is no problem... I don't notice it like I did with the Falken....
SO far I like it and not much difference from a MC tire.....
And it looks bad ass all big and wide under the bike..LOL
What pressure are you guys running in it?????
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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2016, 08:24:26 AM » |
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I have just put about 100 miles so far on the Yokohama and it IS a much better handling tire than the Falken was.... The low speed handling is no problem... I don't notice it like I did with the Falken....
SO far I like it and not much difference from a MC tire.....
And it looks bad ass all big and wide under the bike..LOL
What pressure are you guys running in it?????
BradValk48237, that is what I love about the Yoko...none of the low speed issues I had with the Riken Raptor I was running...I loved the Raptor in the twisties but it sucked at low speeds...I run 38 psi in mine...works great... |
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« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2016, 02:40:27 PM » |
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I have just put about 100 miles so far on the Yokohama and it IS a much better handling tire than the Falken was.... The low speed handling is no problem... I don't notice it like I did with the Falken....
SO far I like it and not much difference from a MC tire.....
And it looks bad ass all big and wide under the bike..LOL
What pressure are you guys running in it?????
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« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2016, 05:20:40 PM » |
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What matters with C/T is not only the running pressure but the wear.
A comfortable feel good pressure may not lead to long tire life.
I used a couple of Cooper Zeon years ago and ran them at 42 and then 40 but this lead to premature tread wear in the center.
I think it would be helpful if those who have used a car tire until it's worn out tell others what the pressure was otherwise the information about tire pressure is pretty useless.
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« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2016, 05:56:37 PM » |
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What matters with C/T is not only the running pressure but the wear.
A comfortable feel good pressure may not lead to long tire life.
I used a couple of Cooper Zeon years ago and ran them at 42 and then 40 but this lead to premature tread wear in the center.
I think it would be helpful if those who have used a car tire until it's worn out tell others what the pressure was otherwise the information about tire pressure is pretty useless.
Britman, I've gone thru 4 car tires...the first three were Riken Raptors...got about 15,000 out of them running 38-40 psi...they wore even across the treads...I don't run a ct for high mileage...IMO a ct performs better on a Valk than a mc tire.... |
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What matters with C/T is not only the running pressure but the wear.
A comfortable feel good pressure may not lead to long tire life.
I used a couple of Cooper Zeon years ago and ran them at 42 and then 40 but this lead to premature tread wear in the center.
I think it would be helpful if those who have used a car tire until it's worn out tell others what the pressure was otherwise the information about tire pressure is pretty useless.
Britman, I've gone thru 4 car tires...the first three were Riken Raptors...got about 15,000 out of them running 38-40 psi...they wore even across the treads...I don't run a ct for high mileage...IMO a ct performs better on a Valk than a mc tire.... That's the pressure / wear information people need. |
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« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2016, 06:46:03 PM » |
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Run all my Goodyear Assurance Triple Treds (no longer in favor but just fine for me) at 40PSI, and have even tread wear all across... even the first to finally wear out at 37K. (wasn't shot, but it was time for service, and a new one seemed warranted)
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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2016, 09:00:21 PM » |
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Just replaced Goodyear Assurance Triple Tread with 44,300 miles.
Most of time ran with 36psi, occasionally with 38.
3/32 depth to bottom of sipe in the center, 1/32 to wear bar.
It was my 1st CT, now on the Yoko Envigor on 2 valks.
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Hi Ken. I have a long time on both before I need a new CT. I'm not totally reactionary and may try a Yokohama next (I run them on my Dodge). Specs and tread look somewhat similar to GATT. Little softer compound, more rounded shoulder, 3 pounds lighter. The Goodyear has a much better rating in the snow, not that I care.  |
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« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2016, 07:38:35 AM » |
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I ran my first CT. A Cooper Zeon2 at 40psi and got 24,000 out of it before the center wore out. Ever since the 36psi cold and I get about 26,000 or better. I like the softer compound tires better as they seem to stick a little better.
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« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2016, 11:05:57 AM » |
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My first car tire 205/65-16 will be this one very soon. E3 is getting close to wear bars. http://www.laufenn.com/us/front/us_front/gfit.do#laufen is no frills brand by Hankook I personally saw it and took measurements of the unmounted tire. From outside to outside of the four treads is 4 inches and then both sides taper down equally to the rounded edges. |
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« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2016, 05:29:54 PM » |
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Need a recommendation for a dealer etc who will mount a CT in Northern VA...Thanks, Steve
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Need a recommendation for a dealer etc who will mount a CT in Northern VA...Thanks, Steve
Have you looked for an independent car tire place? That's what I use. Of course I have to take the wheel off the bike and take it to them with new tire. That way i get to make sure everything is cleaned and lubed correctly before installing the wheel. |
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« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2016, 08:00:09 AM » |
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As near as can calculate the Austone is a 175/80-16 thus 5mm/.200 narrower & 28mm/1.100 larger dia. (14mm/.550 less clearance under fender) Now it seems I read in the past that there was some inner fender mods to be made? I strongly considering this tire in the future.
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« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2016, 07:11:24 AM » |
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I have the Yokahoma, and I love it. I have about 6-7k on it so far, and just got back from riding the Cabot Trail with it. 3rd time on the trail, first time with a car tire and it handled at least as good as the bike tire did on the pavement and much much better in the loose gravel of construction. For everyone that doesn't know what the Cabot Trail is, it is like the Canadian East coast version of the Dragon.  Not the crazy amount of corners, but most of the corners are marked for 30km/h and there is frequently a 500+ft cliff on the other side of the guardrail. |
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« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2016, 08:12:19 AM » |
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I have the Yokahoma, and I love it. I have about 6-7k on it so far, and just got back from riding the Cabot Trail with it. 3rd time on the trail, first time with a car tire and it handled at least as good as the bike tire did on the pavement and much much better in the loose gravel of construction. For everyone that doesn't know what the Cabot Trail is, it is like the Canadian East coast version of the Dragon. Not the crazy amount of corners, but most of the corners are marked for 30km/h and there is frequently a 500+ft cliff on the other side of the guardrail. I hadn't heard of it. So I looked it up. Looks very cool. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TC9S4Ehgq1s |
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« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2016, 04:38:34 PM » |
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I got mine mounted at an independent car tire place...his only concern was clearance on the machine and voila done...he will get my car tire business as well...and I am running Toyo Proxes R1R 205/55-16 with 140 AA A  |
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As near as can calculate the Austone is a 175/80-16 thus 5mm/.200 narrower & 28mm/1.100 larger dia. (14mm/.550 less clearance under fender) Now it seems I read in the past that there was some inner fender mods to be made? I strongly considering this tire in the future.
The inner fender mods amount to the removal of the nut cages on the sides of the fender. The Austone Taxi Tire, being narrow, does not require this mod... |
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