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« on: January 25, 2017, 10:54:03 AM »

http://www.motosport.com/product?psreferrer=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F&pssource=true&segment=badger&key=Battery-Tender-Lithium-Engine-Start-Battery&cc=us&adpos=1o1&creative=93609120145&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&product_id=BTN000I-X001-Y001&gclid=Cj0KEQiAtqHEBRCNrdC6rYq9_oYBEiQAejvRl6oVQ9FWs1RB1T8VKSuluo1k2uFPpM9j6QZ6h5h7Em8aAsqR8P8HAQ&mmy=honda;gl1500c;1999&mmy_source=pdp#reviews

Anyone have any experience or knowledge on this?
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2017, 11:54:12 AM »

Have these on both my bikes, absolutely no problems. Cranks fast and strong. On cold days, I turn the key on and wait for about 30 seconds before I push the start button.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2017, 12:02:56 PM »


My 1500 has had a lithium battery since December 2014.

I still like it.

-Mike
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2017, 04:19:33 PM »

Your question is for what? LiFe batteries are nice, but more expensive than you need to pay.

I bought one for my GL1500 GW, liked all I read about it. Even bought the matching charger. Spent $400 CAD for them both.

Got them home, read through the paper work that came with the battery, and seems that every reason I bought it for, wasn't as listed. You had to read the fine print.

A regular AGM lead acid battery would have cost me $150, and I already had a good charger for it.

I still have it, carry it fully charged in my saddle bag for an emergency jump. Every time I've tried, it hasn't worked (started the MC). I've now bought proper heavy gauge short jumper cables, and will try again.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2017, 05:42:54 PM »

Your question is for what? LiFe batteries are nice, but more expensive than you need to pay.

I bought one for my GL1500 GW, liked all I read about it. Even bought the matching charger. Spent $400 CAD for them both.

Got them home, read through the paper work that came with the battery, and seems that every reason I bought it for, wasn't as listed. You had to read the fine print.

A regular AGM lead acid battery would have cost me $150, and I already had a good charger for it.

I still have it, carry it fully charged in my saddle bag for an emergency jump. Every time I've tried, it hasn't worked (started the MC). I've now bought proper heavy gauge short jumper cables, and will try again.
Well, you answered them, thanks Smiley   Saw them and they state to have a lot longer life than lead acid.  About twice the cost.

Didn't consider that I'd have to get a new charger, is that correct?
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2017, 09:34:52 PM »

Research. According to mine, I should be using a special charger designed for the Lithium Iron batteries. These have a plug into the side of the battery.

Since they don't have a problem being charged while in a vehicle, I don't know why a special one needs to be used, but since I paid $300 for the battery, another $75 for the charger for safety wasn't too big of a deal.

I bought mine because of the .1% drain/month. Turned out when removed from the vehicle and stored at 5'C (in a fridge). I bought the higher AMP, will always pay the little extra (25%?) for that. About 2lbs weight, instead of 14lb. Good weight savings, but then, reality, our bikes can handle it. Then the wife lost a great 50lbs, and I should do the same, so why worry about a little 10lbs?

I'm going to move mine into my trailer. Hook up a Hot from the bike to keep it charged, and add LED lights inside the trailer to see, and maybe some outside ones for effect. Also giving me the ability to jump another vehicle (I hope). After all, I have the battery, might as well use it (reverse polarity posts than the Valk).

I also think some have claimed walmart (?) batteries as low as $50. Could afford to buy one every few years and still save.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2017, 04:20:26 AM »


I would be nervous putting mine on a charger, I would probably
look it up online and see what the manufacturer said first. I charge
stuff outside anyway, so it probably wouldn't burn down my house
anyway. It might be the case that properly used battery tenders
burned down Britman's house and Deten8r's bike shed, if they
see this maybe they'll say for sure. About the only thing I ever
charge anyway is the 6-volt in my Ford 8N... I haven't turned it
on since June or so, what with the drought, I bet it will need
charged in the spring. Since I live in South Carolina, and get
to ride regularly (I rode the 1500 yesterday) there's probably
something wrong with my battery or alternator if I need to
charge...

Could afford to buy one every few years and still save.

That's true... I didn't get mine to save, it cost more than the
other one the Advance guy put up on the counter top. It is
tiny and lightweight and I wanted to see how it would do.
Maybe it will last a long time, or maybe it will go off like
one of those vape machines next time I go for a ride...  coolsmiley

-Mike

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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2017, 11:05:44 AM »

you have to use a different charger because LiIon and Lead Acid are 2 different animals.  You can explode a Lithium Ion Battery in fairly short order with a charger meant for Lead acid.
Lithium batteries require some special care.
Ask anyone with a Samsung Galaxy note 7
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2017, 11:12:32 AM »

you have to use a different charger because LiIon and Lead Acid are 2 different animals.  You can explode a Lithium Ion Battery in fairly short order with a charger meant for Lead acid.
Lithium batteries require some special care.
Ask anyone with a Samsung Galaxy note 7

Wonder why the charging system on the bike wouldn't be an issue also ?
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2017, 11:30:44 AM »

I have often wondered the same thing but it seems to be fine.  I guess because the charging rate is so low.
Leaving a battery on a charger requires the battery to be monitored.  I guess because the battery is always being drained on the bike it prevents failure.

One good thing is that the LiIon battery will deliver alot more power.

I have a small Battery, about the size of a iphone 6+.  I can jump start the bike about 20 times off of it with no issues.  Bonus is I can charge my phone off of it too
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2017, 02:52:30 PM »

I'd try one, but the only thing that concerns me is that I've read that when the Lithium batteries go, they go quickly. So you could have battery power one minute and the next zero. At least with AGM you have some time ... usually. Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2017, 03:25:22 PM »

a different charger only has to be used IF the charger has a desulfation mode which puts the voltage btwn 15-16 volts. A LifPo4 battery burns up with that much voltage. a vehicles charging system does not put that much volts out unless the regulator goes bad.
any charger for lead and agm batteries that monitors charging and shuts down high voltage and amps when the battery is fully charged can be used.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2017, 04:58:03 PM »

I have had the LiPoFe batteries in my VFR for 5 years and have no problems. The biggest thing people mistake for these batteries is that they treat them like lead acid ones. They are not! Typically they hold charge a long time (year or so) and if they get below voltage and do need a charge, its within a half hour or very much less. Last time I needed to do this, it was like in 5 minutes. Trickle charging is a no no. Dont stick it on a charger and walk away.

So treat the battery like it supposed to and it will give you good service.......
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