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« on: April 30, 2017, 09:59:43 AM »

  I installed one in a HD the other day. B R I G H T  during the day and blinding on high beam at night.
 Any one have any experience with these. Designed in the U S A but assembled in the P R C.  On the HD install , I had to change the mount bracket. It is a plug and play without any instructions or info in the boxes. It has multiple led's.

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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2017, 09:03:13 PM »

okay....what is the price and will it fit in the adapters that were designed and sold on here a while back?
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2017, 05:05:29 AM »

  I do not know. They are about $56.00 on amazon. I have not found out anything else about them. Usually someone here knows.

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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2017, 07:21:21 AM »

Don't know anything about them, but found this site. 

https://www.genssiled.com/index.php/product/elite-led-headlight-conversion-kit-6000k-bulbs-8000lm/

They claim to be the brightest LED bulbs available at 4,000 lumens each.
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2017, 08:15:59 AM »

With out rolling my firing forward for a little look see wunderin how big those electrical boxes are and with the heat sinks at the back of the lights IF there be nuff room fer ALL dat "stuff" on an I/S? Much time as I've spent working inside an I/S fairing you'd Think I'd know that!  2funny Anybody with an I/S knows there is sooooooooo much room in there!  Roll Eyes RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2017, 08:27:11 AM »

The product in Valkorado's link is a direct replacement for the H4 bulb, thus you keep the OEM lens/reflector assembly.  The question I have is, will the huge heat sink on these bulbs fit inside the Valkyrie's headlight bucket?  I didn't find dimensions.  You also have the electronics package to fit in somewhere, which looks to be about the size of two Tic Tac containers side-by-side.

On the positive side, this is the first LED H4 I've seen that produces a precise light pattern, like a halogen bulb, with a reflector/lens designed for a halogen bulb.  Although their web page doesn't indicate power usage (I don't get why this helpful piece of information is missing), the following Youtube video shows current measurements at 1.76A, which works out to around 22-25 Watts used, depending on voltage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixYDE9vg1jQ

From the video's description:

"After riding my VTX 1800R for a while with the Opt7 led which was a huge improvement over the Halogen bulb I decided to start searching again for a better led bulb; the reason was because the Opt 7 output was all scattered and did not have a good cutoff line so in other words I was blinding the incoming traffic.
I decided on this Genssi Elite due to the arrangement of the led's simulating the positioning of the filaments in a Halogen bulb and I have to say it was a huge difference, the cutoff is really good and the illumination was amazing.
While comparing the Amperage draw the main difference is that the Opt 7 while on high beam has all four LED's on and only two for low beam, The genssi on high beam has the bottom row on both sides on and while on low beam only the two top rows on.
In conclusion the Genssi actually uses the housing to reflect the light output and not just more lighting to create the illumination and by doing that the output is better and the cutoff is just like it was meant to be creating a safer environment for the rider and preventing blinding the oncoming traffic."
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2017, 08:41:36 AM »

  The one I am referring to is a seven inch round (listed on amazon) self contained unit (forgot how to link) 75W , multi beam. It has an H4 plug and is comparable to a 6012 or 6015 / H6017/H6024. The one I installed on the HD needed a mount frame for the headlight. It was a plug and play  as far as I knew as there were no directions or info sheet in the box. The customer furnished the unit. I will try to find more info or a phone number and an English speaking person to talk to.

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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2017, 05:39:24 PM »

Da Prez,

I manufacture and sell the adapter brackets that make it possible to mount 7" LED headlights in our Valkyries.

I have gained quite a bit of knowledge in my endeavours regarding 7" LED fixtures. Though I haven't seen the Genssi I can tell you don't limit yourself to that one whereas there are a lot of fixtures out there to choose from. Also I wouldn't suggest a 75 watt unit. The 50 watt units are already putting out more light than stock halogen bulbs.  

If you want to move now on a led headlight, email me ValkyrieJosh@gmail.com and I can get you more info on headlights as well as my bracket. Or, I am in the works at getting set up as a vendor at InZane, selling not only my brackets but will also have a good selection of headlights to choose from as well, and you could purchase then.

Hope this helps,

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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2017, 04:49:54 AM »

Quick look at their web site show numerous 7" assemblies, also a motorcycle bezel adapter.
Some DOT approved.
Did not look at their bulb replacements
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2017, 05:27:12 AM »

  The unit I installed was a sealed one piece seven inch. I see no way to repair it. There was not even a fact sheet with the assembly. I am curious about the light , and usually someone on the board has experience. I will try to get more info on the light. I am not putting down any one else's system, just curios about this one. Will our headlight wiring handle 75 watts.

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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2017, 05:33:53 AM »

  The unit I installed was a sealed one piece seven inch. I see no way to repair it. There was not even a fact sheet with the assembly. I am curious about the light , and usually someone on the board has experience. I will try to get more info on the light. I am not putting down any one else's system, just curios about this one. Will our headlight wiring handle 75 watts.

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Without BonS's smart switch, no it wont handle a 75w fixture. Again though you dont need a 75w fixture whereas 50w DayMakers already put out more light than your stock halogen.
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2017, 11:31:59 AM »

Don't know anything about them, but found this site.  

https://www.genssiled.com/index.php/product/elite-led-headlight-conversion-kit-6000k-bulbs-8000lm/

They claim to be the brightest LED bulbs available at 4,000 lumens each.

I'm still keeping on open mind on this.  I'm going to give this one Valkorado found a try.  There are some good reviews of what to look for in H4 LED kits on youtube, specifically (video from the company on this bulb)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8TVgPqy4u0

and (what to look for in these H4 LED bulbs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sonh4lHu4XE

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQF5ESBHLrw

Looks like the channel Headlight Revolution has been doing a lot of work evaluating what's coming out in this field.  I've tried 3 different ones and have concluded the technology isn't there yet - but this one in particular looks like it emulates a Halogen filiment bulb fairly well.  I'll be deciding that for myself after it gets in.  I still believe the projector beam tech is the way to go for LED's but I want to retain the old-school look while still benefiting from the whiter light, very good distance potential and the lower power drain & long life of the LED's.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2017, 11:42:58 AM »


http://www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/7000-Lumen-H4-LED-Headlight-Bulb_p_169.html

Technical Specs:
- Color Temperature 5500K
- Power Draw: 25 Watts on Low / 50 Watts on High
- Emitters Lifespan: 30,000 hours
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2017, 02:27:21 PM »


http://www.cyclopsadventuresports.com/7000-Lumen-H4-LED-Headlight-Bulb_p_169.html

Technical Specs:
- Color Temperature 5500K
- Power Draw: 25 Watts on Low / 50 Watts on High
- Emitters Lifespan: 30,000 hours



The Cyclops - clever name - is one of the bulbs that didn't work for me.  Bad light focus.  Here's one of the new tech ones that appears to focus well.  Watch it beginning at 2:55 where he shows rotating it to find the best focus.  They do the same thing on the video of the Genssi H4 I just ordered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSWMd3SoHng

Note the design is very similar to the one Valkorado linked above.  And the design is mentioned in my link above, by Headlight Revolution, as emulating the filiment of a Halogen well - what the reflector buckets need. Look closely at the 4 miniature SM LED's in a line - same size and position as a halogen light filiment - not a big LED that is much bigger than a halogen filiment.


In this video they actually held the LED bulb next to a halogen and you could see the close approximation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3jHvGeUxbo


Here's a link from above again - start watching it at 26:40 - he talks about the small row of tiny SMD LED's emulating the halogen filiment very closely and that makes for much better light delivery. Also note, he says you want to look for Philips or Samsung brand LED's - much higher quality than the Chinese knock-offs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sonh4lHu4XE

I'm expecting to finally be pleased in my quest to find a H4 LED that actually works well.  This guy in the Headlight Revolution channel says it appears the various makers are heading in the direction of these tiny LED's positioned where the filiment of a halogen bulb is. I'm noting they are also making them adjustable in positioning so you can tune the bulb to your particular reflector.

 
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