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Author Topic: Clutch Slave - Pic with question  (Read 1674 times)
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« on: September 18, 2017, 04:35:58 PM »

Looks like I have to do my clutch slave seal. Small leak under my bike and fluid in reservoir keeps getting low. Anyone have a list of parts I should order or is there a simple kit? Links? I want to make sure I have everything I need and not have to stop after getting into it to reorder. Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2017, 02:42:52 PM »

I didn't do a rebuild, I just bought a new slave assembly.  But from what I can tell it is pretty straight forward on the rebuild.  You can use the parts diagram from the manual or Partzilla.com to see what you need.  What caught me unaware was the oil seal in the clutch cover.  Mine was starting to fall apart.  I had ordered one on the original order.  The problem is that it appears I have to remove the clutch cover in order to install it.  So I had to reorder a new gasket for the clutch cover.  I think some have gotten by, not replacing the seal.  Only way to know is to remove the slave cylinder and take a look.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2017, 03:12:27 PM »

see post #3
http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-goldwing-technical-forum/481498-99-gl1500-clutch-problem-help.html
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2017, 06:28:02 PM »

I repaired mine a few months ago. I changed the seal in the clutch housing, you can pull it out and push another in, the way I remember. I changed the piston, spring, cup seal, oil seal piston. You have to have a way of holding the bike up right because you have to swing the kick stand bracket to the side, and I had to remove the center stand. I bought a MC wheel chock from Harbor Freight to do that. I also ordered new seal washers for the bleed pipe and clutch hose.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2017, 03:16:12 AM »



Hey Vaquero, the link in the post for rebuild kit parts doesn't work anymore.  The domain is up for sale.

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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2017, 12:15:31 PM »

I believe the new unit is $54 dollars as a couple of years ago.  Simple and surest way to go. Don't forget a new gasket... Smiley Jim
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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2017, 07:23:52 PM »

Got the clutch slave assembly off. I pulled the piston out and removed the small seal and there is a small metal ring that fits into the seal.  How the hell do you get the ring into the new seal?
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2017, 11:08:35 PM »

By metal ring does it look like a ring of coils? If so there should be one in the new seal already, it is the tensioner spring for the seal.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2017, 07:52:59 AM »

No its for the small seal on the piston. Its just a metal ring that fits inside the new seal to hold the shape.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2017, 09:05:40 AM »

This is the metal ring that was in the old seal. How do you get it into the new seal without destroying it. I would assume its needed?

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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2017, 07:28:52 AM »

Been a few years since I changed my seals but don't recall anything like that.
Certain the seals I had were standard type oil seals with the tensioner ring already installed.
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2017, 08:05:03 AM »

This seal definitely has some metal support in it but this metal ring was in the existing seal. I just assume it was needed but didnt get why it didnt come in the new kit.
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2017, 08:19:55 AM »

I have never bought the kit. Just ordered #9, #14, & #15 from Honda, about $14.00 worth of parts.

The metal ring could be part of 'someone elses' kit.

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Honda/Motorcycle/2000/GL1500C+A/CLUTCH+COVER/parts.html

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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2017, 08:21:40 AM »

So that seal you got had no metal ring? You installed only the seal?
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2017, 12:04:59 PM »

I did not really inspect it, just installed it. I do not remember a metal ring.

Nice bike by the way.
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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2017, 03:30:41 AM »



This is the metal ring that was in the old seal. How do you get it into the new seal without destroying it. I would assume its needed?




I stumbled on this old post about the same metal ring, (quote below). The poster mentioned instructions to reuse or re-install the metal ring into the new seal, although he doesn't state the specific manual he got those instructions from. Perhaps, the part has been superseded. 

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"Pulled my piston out of the clutch slave cylinder for a rebuild on my basket case 99 standard. I ordered the repair it with the inner seal, cup seal and spring. The inner seal was tough to get out a piece at a time. I found a metal ring cup shaped underneath the seal. I read the Honda book and it said to reinsert the metal ring under the new seal on top of it with a special Honda tool. Well I beat the crap out of the seal trying to jam it in to the piston with the metal ring in it. My question is does it need the metal ring in it ? If so how in the world d I get around the special tool ? should I just order the complete assy of the piston. spring cup seal, inner seal. $85.00 from the Honda dealer, not cheap."

Many thanks guys for your help. Smiley
Dave in palm coast,Fla         

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,73020.msg713083.html#msg713083

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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2017, 06:25:56 AM »

Thanks I actually did see that post. Love to know if he got the metal ring in and if not any problems after installing without it.
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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2017, 08:00:55 AM »

that metal ring is part of the oil seal. your old one came apart into two pieces. look inside the new one and u will see it.

decent pic of it
http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/honda/HP-91204-MB0-013.html
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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2017, 10:14:28 AM »

The new seal does not have a metal ring with it. No way I see getting the metal ring in the new one without wrecking it.
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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2017, 10:28:49 AM »

The new seal does not have a metal ring with it. No way I see getting the metal ring in the new one without wrecking it.

if its OEM then it does like the link shows. I have one in my hands and looks just like the link.
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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2017, 10:30:10 AM »

so then there is no metal ring in it like the picture I posted?
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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2017, 01:01:53 PM »

that metal ring is part of the oil seal. your old one came apart into two pieces. look inside the new one and u will see it.

decent pic of it
http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/honda/HP-91204-MB0-013.html


Sorry I think I understand what you are saying now. I misunderstood you. The metal ring is embedded in the seal already. What I have is the left over metal from the inside of the old seal. Thanks for clearing that up.
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