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« on: October 08, 2017, 02:15:02 PM » |
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Bikes running great, no issues. Cousin came over today and wanted to hear it run, so, put the key in, turned the gas on, choke, hit the starter and nothing. No lights, no click, nothing. Deader than Oswald. So started with the battery, fully charged. Just took the side cover of and going to check fuses. Next, the ground. Rode the bike yesterday no problem. So now the search begins. Process of elimination.
Oh, kill switch is in the right position. Gonna ck the starter switch to.
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« Last Edit: October 08, 2017, 04:49:04 PM by Hooter »
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2017, 02:38:28 PM » |
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do you have headlights when starting with the battery? I battery can still test good and be bad, try another battery if you have one available.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2017, 03:40:08 PM » |
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Not without the charger. All it does is click at the relay even with the charger on, even in the start mode. I suspect the battery took a dump? Woulda thought it would have fired with the charger on, but no. No lights no nothing when I first tried to start it. No clunk, no attempt to start at all. So hydro lock I don't suspect. When I put the tender on it before my charger I had faint lights. With my regular charger lights are bright. Haven't cked the ground yet. UPDATE; Cked cylinders, they are dry. So no hydro lock.  Charger, good lights, take charger off, zilch . Don't have another battery I can use. So, still thinkin battery. Gonna finish this tomorrow. |
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« Last Edit: October 08, 2017, 04:31:50 PM by Hooter »
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2017, 04:33:26 PM » |
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Not without the charger. All it does is click at the relay even with the charger on, even in the start mode. I suspect the battery took a dump? Woulda thought it would have fired with the charger on, but no. No lights no nothing when I first tried to start it. No clunk, no attempt to start at all. So hydro lock I don't suspect. When I put the tender on it before my charger I had faint lights. With my regular charger lights are bright. Haven't cked the ground yet. UPDATE; Cked cylinders, they are dry. So no hydro lock. Charger, good lights, take charger off, zilch . Don't have another battery I can use. So, still thinkin battery. Gonna finish this tomorrow. Got a car you can jump from ? |
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2017, 06:02:22 PM » |
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Not without the charger. All it does is click at the relay even with the charger on, even in the start mode. I suspect the battery took a dump? Woulda thought it would have fired with the charger on, but no. No lights no nothing when I first tried to start it. No clunk, no attempt to start at all. So hydro lock I don't suspect. When I put the tender on it before my charger I had faint lights. With my regular charger lights are bright. Haven't cked the ground yet. UPDATE; Cked cylinders, they are dry. So no hydro lock. Charger, good lights, take charger off, zilch . Don't have another battery I can use. So, still thinkin battery. Gonna finish this tomorrow. Got a car you can jump from ? At what speed ?  |
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2017, 06:26:41 PM » |
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I will tomorrow Meathead. Question : can a relay go bad in these things?
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2017, 06:37:07 PM » |
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I will tomorrow Meathead. Question : can a relay go bad in these things?
Yes, they can. But more likely not. My money would be on dead battery, dirty starter switch, corroded starter relay. In that order. |
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mrgeoff
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My 99 CT..."Liahona"
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2017, 09:05:53 PM » |
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I had the same situation once...It is the battery...Replace and invite your cousin back over...Ride Safe...!!!
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2017, 10:56:59 PM » |
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Question : can a relay go bad in these things?
To test the relay, bridge the two copper post on the starter relay. This connects the positive terminal on the battery to the starter motor, the same thing that's *suppose* to happen internally when you press the start button. |
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2017, 03:10:36 AM » |
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Everything is clean at the relay and in that area. Nothing melted either like on my first Valk. I serviced the start switch beginning of summer and no problem till now. I'll pull my pickup down there when it gets daylight and try a jump. (Truck off of course ) if she fires then off to the battery store. If not, then the switch will come apart again. I will let you guys know what the gig is, or isn't some time this morning.
Update : Went out this morning and hooked my pickup to the bike. It turned over, but didn't start. That battery is junk, so off I go this morning to the battery store. Nuther $130 spent but at least it isn't hydro locked! Thanks for the suggestions guys.
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2017, 07:46:56 AM » |
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Thanks Cookie...friend of mine works at NAPA. Got me one for cost, $88.00 bones and have it this afternoon. Thanks again guys!
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2017, 08:07:11 AM » |
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Look under right side cover ( rear brake side ) very possible you have some " melt " around the fuse . Unhook battery and clean everything up under the cover . Corrosion on the electrical connections will definitely cause this I've seen it on several Valkyries mine being one . Mine melted the fuse I had to replace the wiring harness to the 30amp fuse. I did have a picture but can't find it right now.
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2017, 10:41:05 AM » |
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First place I went Joe. All is clean, nothing melted like on my first Valk. Had battery tested by my friend at NAPA, came up junk. Should be here in a little bit. Want to go for a ride, it's a nice day. Oh, the battery I took out was 6 yrs old.
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My friend at NAPA called and the battery was in. Picked it up, put it in, and she was off like a prom dress. All is good at Hooters house.
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2017, 05:03:28 PM » |
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First place I went Joe. All is clean, nothing melted like on my first Valk. Had battery tested by my friend at NAPA, came up junk. Should be here in a litter bit. Want to go for a ride, it's a nice day. Oh, the battery I took out was 6 yrs old.
UPDATE:
My frieND at NAPA called and the battery was in. Picked it up, put it in, and she was off like a prom dress. All is good at Hooters house.
6 years is longer than I ever get. |
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2017, 08:46:32 AM » |
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Picked it up, put it in, and she was off like a prom dress. All is good at Hooters house.
Your prom dress wasn't comfortable?  |
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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2017, 08:57:47 AM » |
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Picked it up, put it in, and she was off like a prom dress. All is good at Hooters house.
Your prom dress wasn't comfortable? Canadian Firefighters don't seem nearly as happy as American firefighters.  |
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2017, 10:03:29 AM » |
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check the kill switch contacts. mine were bad and I had the same symptoms. cleaned the contacts and never had an issue since.
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2017, 01:49:25 PM » |
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Batteries can go bad almost instantly. The plates inside can fracture and short out the battery in a nano second. A battery that is working fine can 'die' in an instant . Yes 6 years is a good life for a battery. The original battery in my Valk lasted 9 years. I bought the bike new. I never let it go down to a discharge state. Vibration is usually the reason for the plates fracturing , Valks don't vibrate . 3-4 years is a good life for the batteries in my inline four Suzuki's and Kawasaki's. They vibrate a lot more than that flat six.
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2017, 03:37:24 AM » |
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The bike always started easily. But when I put the new battery in I realized how slow it had actually spun over for quite a while.
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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2017, 04:23:22 PM » |
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Picked it up, put it in, and she was off like a prom dress. All is good at Hooters house.
Your prom dress wasn't comfortable? Which one is you gryphon rider?? ?? |
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