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Title: Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?
Post by: allanbegg on August 26, 2021, 06:12:12 AM
All,

My bike ('99 I/S with 172K miles) suddenly developed a strange noise.

The noise is very easy to reproduce. It happens at the no-load point between engine acceleration and deceleration. It sounds like a "chatter" in the driveline. When the engine is pulling, everything sounds fine. When there is engine braking, everything sounds fine. However, at the transition between pull and brake, there is a terrible chattering noise.

I replaced the rear wheel dampeners, along with driveshaft, pinion cup, o-rings, etc during a rear service, but they all have about 50K miles on them.

We pulled everything apart last night and the only wear (or slack) that I can find is with the wheel dampeners. They are all loose in the pockets, with a couple moving about an 1/8 inch and a couple moving about 3/16 inch. There is a fair amount of rubber dust in the pockets. I'll replace the dampeners, but am not certain that this is the cause of the chatter.

Should I keep looking for another issue, or do these dampeners cause a racket when they wear out?

Thanks, Allan


Title: Re: Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?
Post by: RonW on August 26, 2021, 06:22:30 AM
Just wedge (shim) them tight and if the sound goes away.


Title: Re: Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?
Post by: Chrisj CMA on August 26, 2021, 06:27:25 AM
While it’s apart pull the u-joint. The sounds you describe do not match up to worn dampeners. I agree yours most assuredly need to be replaced the fact that they are not worse means keep looking. U-joint  is likely. How did the pinion cup look?


Title: Re: Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?
Post by: Bagger John - #3785 on August 26, 2021, 06:38:04 AM
While it’s apart pull the u-joint. The sounds you describe do not match up to worn dampeners. I agree yours most assuredly need to be replaced the fact that they are not worse means keep looking. U-joint  is likely. How did the pinion cup look?
+1


Title: Re: Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?
Post by: allanbegg on August 26, 2021, 07:01:25 AM
While it’s apart pull the u-joint. The sounds you describe do not match up to worn dampeners. I agree yours most assuredly need to be replaced the fact that they are not worse means keep looking. U-joint  is likely. How did the pinion cup look?

Pinion Cup only has 50k miles on it and still looks as new as the day I installed it.
All splines on the driveshaft (also 50K miles) look great, with no signs of wear.

Opened up the differential and ring/pinion gears look beautiful.

I'll pull the u-joint later today, to get a better inspection of it.

Thanks for the input, so far.

Allan


Title: Re: Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?
Post by: allanbegg on August 26, 2021, 10:05:21 AM
Update:

U-Joint for the win (er, fail). It is completely trashed.
I'm surprised that the bike was still rolling under it's own power.

Should be a relatively easy and inexpensive fix.

Thanks for the suggestions and help.

Allan



Title: Re: Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?
Post by: .. on August 26, 2021, 11:07:18 AM
Update:

U-Joint for the win (er, fail). It is completely trashed.
I'm surprised that the bike was still rolling under it's own power.

Should be a relatively easy and inexpensive fix.

Thanks for the suggestions and help.

Allan



 :o


Title: Re: Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?
Post by: Avanti on August 26, 2021, 11:51:54 AM
That might hold a record, at least in my book it does.


Title: Re: Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?
Post by: pancho on August 27, 2021, 12:46:39 PM
Wow,,,   hard to believe the only noticeable symptom was the noise. You're going to think you got a new bike when it's back together.


Title: Re: Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?
Post by: gordonv on August 27, 2021, 07:14:21 PM
You might need a new boot. A little more soft and pliable, for re-installation. Alcohol makes the rubber slide, and dries completely.


Title: Re: Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?
Post by: Valker on August 27, 2021, 07:26:07 PM
You might need a new boot. A little more soft and pliable, for re-installation. Alcohol makes the rubber slide, and dries completely.


Those three beers I had last time I tried to get the boot on did NOT make it easier!! :uglystupid2:


Title: Re: Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?
Post by: The emperor has no clothes on August 27, 2021, 07:33:45 PM
You might need a new boot. A little more soft and pliable, for re-installation. Alcohol makes the rubber slide, and dries completely.


Those three beers I had last time I tried to get the boot on did NOT make it easier!! :uglystupid2:
;D


Title: Re: Symptoms of loose wheel dampeners?
Post by: Grandpot on August 30, 2021, 03:18:26 PM
You might need a new boot. A little more soft and pliable, for re-installation. Alcohol makes the rubber slide, and dries completely.


Those three beers I had last time I tried to get the boot on did NOT make it easier!! :uglystupid2:

You were supposed to pour the beer on the boot for lube.