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Title: Cruise Control
Post by: Griz Leigh on September 26, 2023, 03:12:09 PM
Does anyone know of someone that can repair a cruise control kit. BBF installed mine years ago and it has stop working. I'M getting power to the unit but it won't engage. Any help will be great full.


Title: Re: Cruise Control
Post by: Oldfishguy on September 26, 2023, 04:46:56 PM
Probably should be on the Tech Board, but here is a few things.

Since these devices are all aftermarket we would need to know what device was installed?   But since I literally just repaired mine I’ll go through a few things.  Mine is a Murph’s kit using Audiovox items.  

First, is there a fuse?  Next, check all your electrical connections.  This will involve removing shrink rap and resoldering the half dozen or better connections.  In order to really see the guts of things you will need to remove the tank and probably the air box (Not a light job to reinstall).  Does your system use vacuum pressure to drive the throttle?  If so, check and double check those vacuum lines for leaks.

With mine, I resoldered and shrunk rap a bunch of connections and replaced all the 5/32 (4mm) vacuum tubes.  Yes, I removed the air box for a good look.  And then I put it all back together without finding the “smoking gun”, and it works again!

Best of luck.  

It is the best option on the machine, and am glad I took the time to go through it.  I never really understood how it worked as a couple of VOAI members (Alph & Nitro) from Wisconsin installed it for me on a Saturday eight years ago.  I worked On a CT70 Alph had and failed miserably to get it to run properly.  Good guys, and we touched base again after all these years, and they were helpful again. 


Title: Re: Cruise Control
Post by: 97BLKVALK on September 27, 2023, 08:16:28 AM
Griz,

I don't have the same cruise unit, but I know there are some safety features.  Check connection's on your handlebar clutch and front brake switches.  Those need to be on the terminals to engage.  There may also be a spade terminal close to front wheel that may be loose.  This happened to me on an earlier version of the MCCruise.

Michael


Title: Re: Cruise Control
Post by: rocketray on September 27, 2023, 04:25:45 PM
I am interested in a cruise control for my standard..anybody have a recomendation?


Title: Re: Cruise Control
Post by: h13man on September 28, 2023, 07:02:42 AM
^^^^^

Brake Away is the best/reliable cruise control as it all manual and can be adjusted etc. in plain sight. No "electrical" failure to contend with. As for fitment on Kuryakyn grips, check the sizes in the Honda header.

https://brakeawayproducts.com/fit-list/


Title: Re: Cruise Control
Post by: Ramie on September 28, 2023, 01:04:56 PM
^^^^^

Brake Away is the best/reliable cruise control as it all manual and can be adjusted etc. in plain sight. No "electrical" failure to contend with. As for fitment on Kuryakyn grips, check the sizes in the Honda header.

https://brakeawayproducts.com/fit-list/

I've looked at those but they say all models but the interstate.  I wonder what is different about the interstate?


Title: Re: Cruise Control
Post by: Cracker Jack on September 28, 2023, 01:09:17 PM
^^^^^

Brake Away is the best/reliable cruise control as it all manual and can be adjusted etc. in plain sight. No "electrical" failure to contend with. As for fitment on Kuryakyn grips, check the sizes in the Honda header.

https://brakeawayproducts.com/fit-list/

I've looked at those but they say all models but the interstate.  I wonder what is different about the interstate?

You understand that the Break Away is a throttle lock, not a true cruise control? :cooldude:


Title: Re: Cruise Control
Post by: Avanti on September 28, 2023, 03:14:37 PM
^^^^^

Brake Away is the best/reliable cruise control as it all manual and can be adjusted etc. in plain sight. No "electrical" failure to contend with. As for fitment on Kuryakyn grips, check the sizes in the Honda header.

https://brakeawayproducts.com/fit-list/

I've looked at those but they say all models but the interstate.  I wonder what is different about the interstate?

I have a Brake Away on my Interstate so they do work.


Title: Re: Cruise Control
Post by: Oldfishguy on September 28, 2023, 06:55:24 PM
The Brake Away works on my Interstate too, but it is a throttle lock.  Works really good though.  

The Murphs kit is no longer available.  Rostra makes a kit I’ve been told. It does not use vacuum pressure  either, apparently drives the throttle electrically.  

These things are complicated projects.

 Best of luck.


Title: Re: Cruise Control
Post by: MarkT on October 01, 2023, 01:41:38 AM
The Rostra cruise control install is involved.  However it is reliable, at least mine is.  Electronic, not vacuum driven. Mine has been flawless for years, since I installed it.  Here is BobB's install post, with my additions.
http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,86066.0.html (http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,86066.0.html)

I also have Brake-away throttle locks on all my Valks, and on the Magna too.


Title: Re: Cruise Control
Post by: h13man on October 01, 2023, 06:28:25 AM


You understand that the Break Away is a throttle lock, not a true cruise control? :cooldude:


So a "cruise control" has to be electrical thus a mechanical variant isn't allowed to be called a "cruise control"? Hmmm. Results over time, the electrical version has failure and a PITA to install. This 3x I've heard a electronic failure over the years but.... It was a suggestion as per OP question.


Title: Re: Cruise Control
Post by: Willow on October 01, 2023, 12:08:56 PM


You understand that the Break Away is a throttle lock, not a true cruise control? :cooldude:


So a "cruise control" has to be electrical thus a mechanical variant isn't allowed to be called a "cruise control"? Hmmm. Results over time, the electrical version has failure and a PITA to install. This 3x I've heard a electronic failure over the years but.... It was a suggestion as per OP question.

No.  A throttle lock only holds the throttle in place thus causing the vehicle (motorcycle) to increase or decrease speed based upon encountering up and down slopes on the road path.  A cruise control actually holds the vehicle (motorcycle) to a set speed.

Each can accomplish what one wishes to do but they do two differing things.


Title: Re: Cruise Control
Post by: Chrisj CMA on October 01, 2023, 06:41:12 PM


You understand that the Break Away is a throttle lock, not a true cruise control? :cooldude:


So a "cruise control" has to be electrical thus a mechanical variant isn't allowed to be called a "cruise control"? Hmmm. Results over time, the electrical version has failure and a PITA to install. This 3x I've heard a electronic failure over the years but.... It was a suggestion as per OP question.

You can call a throttle lock a cruise control if you want to. If that (a devise to hold the throttle) is what you want, the Breakaway is the best one. I have one on the Cobra Bike and I really like it. However, I only use it for brief times when I want to let loose of the throttle without it snapping closed.

As was stated if you want it to maintain a certain speed it will only do so if all other factors remain constant. Factors like hills or significant headwind.

I personally do not want a proper cruise control on my bike. It makes me feel uncomfortable when I’m not in as much control as possible. That’s just me

You do what you want, its your bike


Title: Re: Cruise Control
Post by: Mooskee on October 02, 2023, 06:07:22 AM
I have the Rostra electronic cruise control on my trike. It works perfectly, and is a real blessing on long rides. On the interstate the control module can be installed under the fairing. On a Standard or Tourer it would have to go in the battery box or other similar location. It works just like the ones in your cars. Set it , bump speed up or down with a button, disengages with either brake.