Title: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 19, 2010, 01:28:18 PM Okay, the combination of Dave's... adventure... and my own fork seal springing a leak has me concerned about all the other little things that can leave me on the side of the road in Harley Emulation Mode, so I'd like to start knocking 'em out...
Also, what things should I just pay a shop to do, and which are doable by a computer geek such as myself? So far on my list:
Any other critical things I should replace/adjust/look at, etc as I'm getting closer to the big 100,0000? I know 99% of this is in the shop manual or the tech board, but I trust ya'll's collective judgment a lot more... Thanks again! Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 19, 2010, 02:18:35 PM Yeowch! Just got my first quote for having the fork seals/fork oil replaced... $360... Okay, so just how bad IS that job to do???
Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Houdini on April 19, 2010, 03:11:45 PM Quote Yeowch! Just got my first quote for having the fork seals/fork oil replaced... $360... Okay, so just how bad IS that job to do??? Dave In Frisco and I did ours at a wrench party at Flyboy's and I was home in time for lunch. It is not that hard of a job to do if you have the special tools. Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Valkpilot on April 19, 2010, 03:12:15 PM Yeowch! Just got my first quote for having the fork seals/fork oil replaced... $360... Okay, so just how bad IS that job to do??? I'm pretty sure there's expertise in the DFW crowd. I'd like to put in Progressive front springs. Sounds like wrench party job to me. Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Daniel Meyer on April 19, 2010, 04:58:33 PM Yeowch! Just got my first quote for having the fork seals/fork oil replaced... $360... Okay, so just how bad IS that job to do??? Not too bad a job. As for 100,000 miles...if you're checking the splines/pinion cup and bearings at tire changes...no need to do more than keep an eye on them. I recommend: 1) Fill 'er up. 2) Ride 'er hard. :D (http://lifeisaroad.com/images/rideitortakeit.jpg) Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Disco on April 19, 2010, 06:00:47 PM Sounds like a it's time for the 2nd annual fork wrench party.
BnB Tom didn't want to ride in the spit last April and missed the party. He still needs to / wants to / hasn't done it yet. There's 3 right there. Quote It is not that hard of a job to do if you have the special tools. And if none of the Allen head cap screw pinch bolts refuse to cooperate... ;) Serk, you might start feeding them a drop or two of penetrating oil whenever you think about it in advance of the party. Sunday 2 May 2010? Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 19, 2010, 07:07:02 PM If there's to be a wrenching on Sunday, May 2nd, I'll be there with bells on... Come to think of it, if there's such an event anytime that I physically CAN be there, I'll be there...
What parts do I need to go ahead and order? From this page: http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=148096&category=MOTORCYCLES&make=HONDA&year=1998&fveh=3466 (http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=148096&category=MOTORCYCLES&make=HONDA&year=1998&fveh=3466) 2 of these - 51490-MW0-003 ? Dave - On that fiche, which ones are the allen head bolts you're referring to? I'll see if I can get 'em to budge now and start working on 'em if they won't... Fork oil - Anything particular to look for in that? Thanks again! Oh, and Daniel - I dunno what, but something ain't quite right in the rear end... Hard to explain, or even precisely put my finger on, but just something feels... sloppy... lately... Dunno how else to explain it... Has me concerned one of those bits that leaves you on the side of the road is about to give out, but I don't know enough to even know what to look for... Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Stitch_in_La on April 19, 2010, 07:15:57 PM If you're just changing the seals don't need to disassemble the innards of the forks, see chets posting in tech section or I have a copy if you need it. The change I did and don't tell the spousal unit I don't think she knows I did this but you can use a large storage tub under the forks and no oil on the floor to clean up.
Chuck Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: RainMaker on April 19, 2010, 07:19:05 PM If it's a fork'in party, I'm in as I have the progressive springs, just haven't had a chance to mess with 'em. Also need to bleed the brakes and replace the fluids. Would it be a good idea to go ahead and replace the seals at 59K or should I just wait for them to blow out?
RainMaker Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Ghillie on April 19, 2010, 07:34:54 PM Offering to host at my place again. In the process of cleaning out down here. All the repo Harleys should have gone to auction by then. The weather should not be too bad and I can grill or we can ride somewhere east for some chow. I need to replace the intake o rings and the exhaust mani gaskets, replace the choke cable which seems to be mostly stuck at this point, as well as would like to sync the carbs.
Serk, anytime you want to wrench and not mess up your garage floor, you are welcome here. I am kind of like you. I have been leary of taking a serious road ride since I don't know what was done when if ever in my case. I am always looking to learn how to work on my girl. Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Disco on April 19, 2010, 08:40:07 PM Dag has a good write-up here: http://www.valkyrienorway.com/forksprings.html (http://www.valkyrienorway.com/forksprings.html)
Wanderer has been into forks several times recently. Maybe he'll chime in. Serk, the bolts I referred to are #10 on the Steering Stem fiche and #15 on the Handlebar @ Top Bridge fiche. One of Chuck's was seized up tighter than dammit. Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 19, 2010, 09:04:15 PM Dave - Cool, just went out to the garage and checked, all 6 of those bolts (2 on the bottom, 1 on the top on each side) were easy enough to break loose...
I'm guessing we can skip a lot of steps in Dag's instructions, since I don't wanna replace the springs (Already put Progressive's in there, or rather, paid to have them put in, several years back), just need to replace the seals and the oil... What parts should I order just for that? Everything Dag ordered, or just a subset of that? (Sorry for such stupid questions, I've always had a bit of a mental block related to wrenching. I can usually grunt my way through what needs to be done, but it can get ugly if I try to do too much solo...) Ghillie - Appreciate it. Unfortunately, I have no one but myself to blame for any of the maintenance of lack thereof on my bike... This is how many miles were on the clock when I bought it... :-[ :-[ :-[ (http://www.serk.net/pic_archives/oldpics/DCP03133.JPG) Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Houdini on April 20, 2010, 03:20:34 AM Quote One of Chuck's was seized up tighter than dammit. Still is! One of these days I'll get some oil and the heat gun out and try to get it out again... Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Daniel Meyer on April 20, 2010, 05:07:08 AM From this page: [url]http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=148096&category=MOTORCYCLES&make=HONDA&year=1998&fveh=3466[/url] ([url]http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=148096&category=MOTORCYCLES&make=HONDA&year=1998&fveh=3466[/url]) 2 of these - 51490-MW0-003 ? With the miles you have on (and your petite self) I'd also replace the wearable parts...as in the bushings. BUSH, GUIDE 51414-MT7-003 BUSH, SLIDER 51415-MCH-003 2 of each of those... Oh, and Daniel - I dunno what, but something ain't quite right in the rear end... Hard to explain, or even precisely put my finger on, but just something feels... sloppy... lately... Dunno how else to explain it... Has me concerned one of those bits that leaves you on the side of the road is about to give out, but I don't know enough to even know what to look for... Time to take it apart and look then. Bearings, ujoint, pinion cup, swing arm bearings...all can be checked out without replacing. It's a solid bit of work though when you include the ujoint. You ever replace your rubber wheel dampaners? Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Houdini on April 20, 2010, 06:46:00 AM Quote I'd also replace the wearable parts...as in the bushings. I concur, at 85K my bushings were completely worn out. Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 20, 2010, 07:03:45 AM Time to take it apart and look then. Bearings, ujoint, pinion cup, swing arm bearings...all can be checked out without replacing. It's a solid bit of work though when you include the ujoint. You ever replace your rubber wheel dampaners? I'll hafta tackle that one with assistance too... It all looked okay to me when I had the rear off a few weeks ago, but I just don't know what I'm looking for... Can you tell ANYTHING from this pic? (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_111/tn/IMG_4851.med.JPG) Here's a link to the full resolution version - http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_111/IMG_4851.JPG (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_111/IMG_4851.JPG) Thanks again for the help, and ya'll's patience! Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Disco on April 20, 2010, 07:21:50 AM It's hard to tell through all the pookie, but do I see some wear on the teeth at 11-12 o'clock on the hi rez?
Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Daniel Meyer on April 20, 2010, 07:22:17 AM Hmmm...hard to tell from the pic due to the grease...but that could be some wear there.
Gotta pic of the male (star on the wheel?) Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Daniel Meyer on April 20, 2010, 07:24:49 AM Here is what you are looking for...
(http://lifeisaroad.com/images/tech/wornsplines.gif) Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Wanderer on April 20, 2010, 07:37:00 AM Quote One of Chuck's was seized up tighter than dammit. Still is! One of these days I'll get some oil and the heat gun out and try to get it out again... If you can get some candle wax in the tensioner crack and heat it up and into the treads, that works better than any penetrating oil! Especially effective on brake caliper bleed screws! Vanilla scent works best. ~Jeff Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 20, 2010, 07:50:08 AM Ahhhhh, okay... Thanks for the pic Daniel, makes more sense now... I seem to have taken pics of everything in sight that day, EXCEPT for the gears on the wheel side...
I'm on vacation this week though, so I just might go pull the rear wheel again and have a look see at what I can see now that I've got a little better idea what I'm looking for... Thanks again! Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: godfire on April 20, 2010, 09:36:39 AM Here is what you are looking for... ([url]http://lifeisaroad.com/images/tech/wornsplines.gif[/url]) Daniel, I'm confused....should they glow red.....or is glowing red a problem..... :2funny: Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Houdini on April 20, 2010, 09:56:24 AM Quote should they glow red.....or is glowing red a problem..... They're red hot because they don't have any grease on 'em! Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: RainMaker on April 20, 2010, 12:12:55 PM Quote should they glow red.....or is glowing red a problem..... They're red hot because they don't have any grease on 'em! And Vermithrax knows about no grease on splines. I remember. Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008 on April 20, 2010, 01:27:51 PM Wanderer, you worry me when you start talking about hot candle wax and penetration oil. ;D
Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 20, 2010, 07:50:11 PM Okay... Took the rear tire off, and here's what I found...
The 5 pronged bit that goes into the wheel I THINK is okay. There is some wear on it, but the teeth are mostly intact: (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/tn/IMG_7894.med.JPG) High-Res version - http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/IMG_7894.JPG (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/IMG_7894.JPG) (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/tn/IMG_7898.med.JPG) High-Res version - http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/IMG_7898.JPG (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/IMG_7898.JPG) However... The teeth on the bit that stays on the bike and meshes up with the bit that goes with the wheel... Not so much... The teeth on it appear to be about 1/2 the size as the teeth on the first part... (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/tn/IMG_7920.med.JPG) High-Res version - http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/IMG_7920.JPG (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/IMG_7920.JPG) (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/tn/IMG_7899.med.JPG) High-Res version - http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/IMG_7899.JPG (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/IMG_7899.JPG) So, I'm guessing at the very least I need to replace the gear (Is that the infamous "splines" people are always talking about?) on the part that stays on the bike. That was as far as I'm comfortable going in disassembling things, but if those gears are that chewed up (If I'm reading that right) is it pretty safe to assume the others prolly need replacing too? How ugly is it to keep going on the dis-assembly from here to verify, or should they all be replaced as a set anyway? Once again... My great gratitude for ya'll's assistance and patience! Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Daniel Meyer on April 21, 2010, 06:27:09 AM The splines in the rear end are somewhat difficult to replace (and expensive).
The star on the wheel is not, but they should normally be replaced as a set as sticking a new one with an old one will VERY rapidly wear the new one down to match the old. But yep...your rear-drive looks all used up. Might pay to pick up a used one from Pinwall or ebay or such...they can generally be had for under $200 (parts to fix the rear pumpkin will be much more than that). Make sure they include the star for the wheel and pics that show neither are worn (or will exchange a bad one). Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 21, 2010, 08:16:11 AM Went through Pinwall this morning (Kinda depressing seeing all those parted out Valks, but c'est la vie) and the only final drive I found was this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Valkyrie-GL1500-FINAL-DRIVE-SHAFT-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5190922bc8QQitemZ350317849544QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Valkyrie-GL1500-FINAL-DRIVE-SHAFT-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5190922bc8QQitemZ350317849544QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories) Which, doesn't look a WHOLE lot better than mine, and has a "BOLT BROKE OFF IN IT" Is 41310-MZ0-000 (Gear Set, Final) and a 42630-MT8-305 (Flange Set) the parts I'm after? Thanks again... Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Daniel Meyer on April 21, 2010, 10:23:23 AM Those are them!
-dm Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 21, 2010, 06:15:54 PM ...and the ugly reality of the financial adviser rears it's head...
So... Do I get any kinda warning right before the rear drive gives up the ghost for good and I'm stuck on the side of the road, or have I already had my warning? Also, I know it needs to be fixed, but how critical is the front fork seal leaking? Is that a "Park it NOW!" thing, or does it just mean things will be a lil' awkward 'till I get it taken care of? Hate to totally park the Valk 'till we can get the fundage for parts, but don't wanna hafta be calling someone to tow me in either... (I'm starting to better understand people who have 2, 3 or more Valks now... I'm SO glad I've at least got the spousal unit's ST1300 at times like this, although I can't ride it too long, it destroys my back.) Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Valker on April 21, 2010, 06:22:36 PM I have had a leaking fork seal for 2 years and many thousands of miles. Looks messy, but I keep it off critical components. I plan to change the seals this year. :-X
Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Houdini on April 21, 2010, 08:02:51 PM Quote So... Do I get any kinda warning right before the rear drive gives up the ghost for good and I'm stuck on the side of the road, or have I already had my warning? Serk, those gears look brand-spankin' new compared to what mine looked like before I changed them out. You may not want to plan any cross country trips but I'd keep riding her until you find your parts. Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Daniel Meyer on April 22, 2010, 05:09:23 AM Also, I know it needs to be fixed, but how critical is the front fork seal leaking? Is that a "Park it NOW!" thing, or does it just mean things will be a lil' awkward 'till I get it taken care of? Fork seal leaking is no big deal. There is a LOT of oil in that fork...and even if it was nearly dry the only thing that would happen is your suspension would get bouncy and it might wear the bushings (which you're going to replace anyway). I think all the parts together for both forks should be around $60 or so. As far as the rear end...that's a good question. I expect IF you assemble it correctly and with lube, it should last quite a bit longer. Did you inspect the pinion cup? That's the one more likely to leave somebody standing. Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 22, 2010, 09:33:26 AM Googling trying to find out what the "Pinion Cup" was, found this post of yours (Daniel's):
Quote The rear drive splines wear because folks install the rear tire incorrectly. You need to loosen the 4 bolts that hold the pumpkin to the swing arm BEFORE you torque the axle, then tighten them afterwards. This is for alignment and has been a necessary thing since the early goldwings on this drive. Also check the pinion cup frequently. There are also 3-rings that should be replaced in the rear wheel when changing...look at shoptalk again, great article on that. (Seriously... Google on "Valkyrie pinion cup" and that post is the 2nd hit!) I've searched the Tech board, Googled on it, and looked through the parts fiche sites... What exactly is the pinion cup, and what do I look for to check for wear, and I'll go tear the rear end down again... I'd never heard about loosening the 4 bolts holding the pumpkin in, then torquing the axle down... Guess I'm back out to the garage to redo that bit today... Once again... Thanks! Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008 on April 22, 2010, 10:29:25 AM Serk here it is. http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=148613&category=MOTORCYCLES&make=HONDA&year=2000&fveh=3474 (http://www.hdlparts.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=148613&category=MOTORCYCLES&make=HONDA&year=2000&fveh=3474) Number 13 is the pinioun cup
Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 22, 2010, 10:32:05 AM Groovy, appreciate it Mr. Bubbles...
So, pull the wheel, undo the 4 bolts that hold the pumpkin on, pull it off, and look for that part in all the parts that will come out, basically? Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Daniel Meyer on April 22, 2010, 10:42:29 AM Sort of...pull the 4-nuts, grab the pumpkin and pull it out. The driveshaft will come with it.
The driveshaft mates to the pumpkin at the pinion cup (they should always be changed as a set). Put a towel/such down (so you don't scuff/crack your pumpkin), pick the thing up by the driveshaft and hold it a 1/2" above the towel and tap the cup on the side with a hammer. Should pop apart. If it looks rusty/dry shoot in the seal with some wd-40 or something and it should come apart. That joint is not really splines...it has some flex...and is subject to wear. It's lubed by the rear end and tends to clog up with crud, preventing the lube from doing it's job. It really should be cleaned, inspected, and lightly lubed and reinstalled at every tire change or so. And if worn...replace it. This is the one that tends to strand riders. To reinstall, stick the driveshaft back in the cup, make sure the seal is all the way in the cup, prop the swing arm ABOVE horizontal (this is key), stick the shaft in the swing arm, get the 4 studs started in the holes, and wiggle the hell out of it. It will go right into the ujoint. (If the pumpkin goes all the way in, the shaft is in the ujoint...it can't go beside/around it). Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 22, 2010, 03:27:28 PM ...so is it a bad thing if, as you pull the pumpkin, a large visible cloud of rust dust shoots out of the drive shaft enclosure?
Thanks for the prodding, I don't think the pinion cup had much left in it before leaving me on the side of the road... The inner part of the gears are MAYBE the thickness of a thick piece of paper... (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/tn/IMG_7926.med.JPG) (The outer facing part of the teeth look thick, but just behind the outer face they fade out to almost nothing.) (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_153/tn/IMG_7929.med.JPG) The driveshaft, besides being very rusty, doesn't look to be in much better shape: (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_154/tn/IMG_7944.med.JPG) (http://www.serk.net/akpics-7-8/images_154/tn/IMG_7943.med.JPG) Investigating replacement options now... I've got a lead on some parts local I'm gonna check out... As annoying as this is, I'd MUCH rather have the bike apart in the confines of my garage and find out about it NOW then somewhere out on the road! Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Rocketman on April 22, 2010, 03:38:20 PM ...so is it a bad thing if, as you pull the pumpkin, a large visible cloud of rust dust shoots out of the drive shaft enclosure? Thanks for the prodding, I don't think the pinion cup had much left in it before leaving me on the side of the road... The inner part of the gears are MAYBE the thickness of a thick piece of paper... (The outer facing part of the teeth look thick, but just behind the outer face they fade out to almost nothing.) The driveshaft, besides being very rusty, doesn't look to be in much better shape: Investigating replacement options now... I've got a lead on some parts local I'm gonna check out... As annoying as this is, I'd MUCH rather have the bike apart in the confines of my garage and find out about it NOW then somewhere out on the road! YIKES!!! Good catch. Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Disco on April 22, 2010, 03:44:26 PM Quote I'd MUCH rather have the bike apart in the confines of my garage and find out about it NOW then somewhere out on the road! +1! Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Houdini on April 22, 2010, 03:45:18 PM Congrats! I had a $200 tow bill from Decatur to Allen because of a pinion cup failure. Isn't there a weep hole for oil to get into the pinion for lube? Is yours plugged?
Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Daniel Meyer on April 22, 2010, 03:45:37 PM Yep...That's the spot!
Shaft and cup together run around 80 new if I recall. But..since you're rear pumpkin is worn too...if you can find the entire thing (shaft/drive) in good shape they typically go for under 200. Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 22, 2010, 07:44:32 PM I'm on my way to pick up a supposedly good shape pumpkin with all relevant parts, shaft, and matching star for $300... Prolly coulda done a little better if I shopped around, but with the Valk in parts in the garage, well... That has a certain higher price on it right there... ;)
Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Wanderer on April 22, 2010, 10:42:42 PM Congrats! I had a $200 tow bill from Decatur to Allen because of a pinion cup failure. Isn't there a weep hole for oil to get into the pinion for lube? Is yours plugged? Plugged? More like the Sahara Desert sand dunes of pinion cup dust! Been plugged forEVER! Worst I have ever seen. Count yourself very fortunate to be doing elective surgery rather than sitting on the side of the road, Brian. ~Jeff Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 22, 2010, 10:52:16 PM Yup, very lucky indeed... Glad I listened to the lil' voice that started nagging me watching Dave doing his impromptu maintenance at Hot Glue's that kept saying "Time to check things out, that could be YOU! And you wouldn't be so lucky to have it fail at a large Valkyrie rider gathering either!"
Much thanks to Wanderer for finding the parts, and much thanks for Dave for driving to Kansas and bringing the parts back to Oklahoma for me! Can't believe I forgot the star at your place, guess we'll be hooking up Friday so I can get the last part and try to get this finished off... Gonna go out to the garage and start cleaning up the new pumpkin and getting it ready... I think I'm gonna go through a few paper towels de-greasing it, and also cleaning out the innards of the shaft housing on my bike too... Fun times, fun times... Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Daniel Meyer on April 23, 2010, 06:17:54 AM Clean the pinion cup and shaft end...the end has an indentation that will hold crud...poke a small wire tie in the holes in the bottom of the cup (two of them, opposite each other, at the edge of the nut)...it won't go all the way through but make sure they are cleaned out.
When assembling...a light coat of grease (not paste) on the pinion joint...it's just assembly lube...the rear end oil gets up in there to lube it while running. Stuff the shaft in the pinion cup...make sure the seal goes as far down as it can. Remember, swing arm ABOVE horizontal to shove that puppy in. Line up the 4 bolts and wiggle the crap out of it. Change the rear end lube. Check that joint/clear the crud out of it every 10-20,000 miles...it collects any crud from the rear end (spins it out like a centrifical filter). If you don't maintain it, it clogs up and then does what yours did. 1000 mile test ride recommended :D Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 23, 2010, 02:18:37 PM Once again... Thank you, thank you, a thousand times, thank you, to all of ya'll!
Valk's back together. Little annoying, but not as bad as I feared it would be, everything's lubed, moly'ed, torque'd, etc (And I paid attention to the order of tightening things back down this time too!) Did a brief test ride, so far so good... Gonna head back out for a little longer now... It might just be the placebo effect, but I swear that even just pushing the bike around in neutral, its' MUCH smoother, easier rolling now then it's been lately... Now to start putting the parts together for the fork oil change, but at least the BIG UGLY one is done now!!! Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Daniel Meyer on April 23, 2010, 04:10:30 PM I ...ur... snagged your pinion cup pics for future posts about the subject if that's okay with you (or maybe even a shop-talk article if I get around to it)
Glad you got-er-done. The pinion cup of yours was soon to leave you standing... Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Serk on April 23, 2010, 04:26:33 PM Daniel - Not a problem at all, in fact, I was gonna see if someone wanted to try to get some better pictures of it for just that purpose... (The pictures I took were not taken under exactly the best conditions...)
30ish mile test ride done... I love the spousal unit's ST1300, but it's SO nice to have my rolling La-Z-Boy back!!! Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: Wanderer on April 23, 2010, 04:32:53 PM Get a few miles on that old pumpkin gear lube and change it out while it is good and warm! Good use of synthetic, imo. Quiets things down enough to notice back yonder.
Thanks much Patron for letting go of your backup Valk parts. Now, who is going to be the "holder of the spares"? I have a couple of pretty good guesses. ~Jeff Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: HayHauler on April 23, 2010, 06:48:13 PM Well, ok Mr. Serk, you have convinced me to check mine and possibly replace the u-joint while I have mine apart in a few weeks to go DS. Might as well replace the joint while I have it apart. I am replacing the wheel bearings, dampeners, and u-joint at this point. I will look the pinion cup over pretty good before putting it back together.
Man, thanks to B.A.D. for the reality check on the rear end stuff... Did that come out right..??? Hay 8) Jimmyt Title: Re: 100,000 Miles Mainteance Post by: roboto65 on April 23, 2010, 08:44:39 PM Man Darkside fury going to be one big ball of flame in Houston :uglystupid2: :2funny: :2funny:
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