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99valstate
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« on: August 30, 2018, 06:10:10 PM »

I'm wanting to put a rear M/C tire on the front of my valk and wanted to know what size to use
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2018, 06:25:05 PM »

I've been using a Michelin Pilot Activ 150/70/17. I like them.
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Bighead
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2018, 06:54:54 PM »

Dont know the size but know some use a tore made for a V-strom rear on the front of the valk.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2018, 05:41:48 AM »

Same as Meathead, Michelin Pilot Active 150/70/17. On the second on the tourer and no issues. Put one on the IS before the CO trip in June when on the return leg through NE, IA and WI I was under a strorm front going the same direction. The Girl never lost traction while I watched several cagers hydroplaning.
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2018, 06:05:40 AM »

I run Bridgestone Batlax 130/90-17.  Gives lighter steering.  Lasts about 20k depending on surfaces etc.
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2018, 09:52:15 AM »

Dunlop 404 for me.  No complaints yet.  About 5000 miles so far.
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2018, 01:39:18 PM »

I know this has been discussed before. Hell, I probably asked this question before...

Advantages?

I'm assuming longer wear.

Is it a better ride?

And does it need to be mounted in reverse?

I'm coming up on a replacement at the end of the season. I tried to go there last time, but the dealer wouldn't do it. Maybe I'll try it myself......
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Big Rick
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2018, 01:53:21 PM »

I run a car tire on the rear, its a radial tire...do you run a bias ply rear on the front or radial?
 I ask because I know on a car you're not supposed to mix radial and bias ply
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2018, 02:08:18 PM »

I run a car tire on the rear, its a radial tire...do you run a bias ply rear on the front or radial?
 I ask because I know on a car you're not supposed to mix radial and bias ply
I’ve got close to 70k with a radial car tire and a rear M/C bias ply on front. No fiery death yet.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2018, 02:35:02 PM »

You can not run a bias and radial tire on the same axle, so running the two together on a bike, does not affect handling at all. I'm running a Continental rear tire made for cruisers.  I run it in reverse rotation, it looks like an Avon front tire, the lst advantage is you have 2 inches of contact on the road as opposed to 1 inch. I get about 17,000 miles from it and it cost $98 delivered to the door from Rocky Mountain or Jake Wilson, they are one and the same.

            The only disadvantage I see is the diameter is a little less then stock so your speedometer is off about 5 miles per hour, so when you're showing 65 its only 60, helps me keep my speed closer to the limit. Grin  By the way this is a radial tire.
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2018, 02:39:15 PM »

You can not run a bias and radial tire on the same axle, so running the two together on a bike, does not affect handling at all. I'm running a Continental rear tire made for cruisers.  I run it in reverse rotation, it looks like an Avon front tire, the lst advantage is you have 2 inches of contact on the road as opposed to 1 inch. I get about 17,000 miles from it and it cost $98 delivered to the door from Rocky Mountain or Jake Wilson, they are one and the same.

            The only disadvantage I see is the diameter is a little less then stock so your speedometer is off about 5 miles per hour, so when you're showing 65 its only 60, helps me keep my speed closer to the limit. Grin  By the way this is a radial tire.

Your speed is set off the front tire
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2018, 02:51:14 PM »

You can not run a bias and radial tire on the same axle, so running the two together on a bike, does not affect handling at all. I'm running a Continental rear tire made for cruisers.  I run it in reverse rotation, it looks like an Avon front tire, the lst advantage is you have 2 inches of contact on the road as opposed to 1 inch. I get about 17,000 miles from it and it cost $98 delivered to the door from Rocky Mountain or Jake Wilson, they are one and the same.

            The only disadvantage I see is the diameter is a little less then stock so your speedometer is off about 5 miles per hour, so when you're showing 65 its only 60, helps me keep my speed closer to the limit. Grin  By the way this is a radial tire.

Your speed is set off the front tire
He is referring to his front. He has a rear tire mounted up front.
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Big Rick
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2018, 03:09:34 PM »

thanks for the replies about the bias ply vs radial....good to know
  Thanks
    Big Rick
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2018, 04:04:08 AM »

I know this has been discussed before. Hell, I probably asked this question before...

Advantages?

I'm assuming longer wear.

Is it a better ride?

And does it need to be mounted in reverse?

I'm coming up on a replacement at the end of the season. I tried to go there last time, but the dealer wouldn't do it. Maybe I'll try it myself......
Hey Bob, how's things on the c-cod?

I've been running a Dunlop 404 rear, reversed for years and have then on 3 bikes at present.

I believe the main attraction is the 50% more tread than the front 404.

Can't give you any mileage info cause I haven't worn one out yet.

They handle just slightly different than a steel belted Avon or mezt, but I've got zero complaints.

The theory behind the reverse mounting Shocked is the way the tread throws water.
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2018, 04:48:50 AM »

I know this has been discussed before. Hell, I probably asked this question before...

Advantages?

I'm assuming longer wear.

Is it a better ride?

And does it need to be mounted in reverse?

I'm coming up on a replacement at the end of the season. I tried to go there last time, but the dealer wouldn't do it. Maybe I'll try it myself......
It's pretty hard to do yourself unless you have a stable platform to do it. Such as the harbor freight tire changer, or something home built like I did. Like Bill said the main attraction is more tread, and they are generally a little cheaper. In comparison with the regular Bridgestones, Metzlers, Shinkos, Dunlops up front I would get 10-12k out of them and they cost me $130-$180. With the Michelin rear I get 16-20k and they run $140. Doesn't seem like much, but it adds up to a lot more changes.
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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2018, 05:00:57 AM »

Been running the Dunlap  404 rear tire reversed since I bought the bike. I run them about 18,000 miles. I could get more miles, but I never run them long enough to see the air in them Grin  I have been very pleased with the performance on and in all conditions. 
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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2018, 01:08:44 PM »

Is there a Double Darkside?? Has anyone ever tried a car tire front and back??? would it work??
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Andy Cote
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2018, 06:28:01 AM »

Is there a Double Darkside?? Has anyone ever tried a car tire front and back??? would it work??

Double Darkside is usually associated with a rear tire on the front.  Rear tires generally have more tread depth and last longer.  Some believe it is better to mount them in reverse rotation as they are designed to withstand hard acceleration forces while the front incurs hard deceleration (braking) forces.

Darkside is usually associated in running a tire designed for a car on the rear of a motorcycle.  Car tires have deeper tread depth, higher load range and are available in some sizes as a runflat tire.

You are free to try a car tire on the front.  Don't know what label to apply to that.
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2018, 07:09:57 AM »

Is there a Double Darkside?? Has anyone ever tried a car tire front and back??? would it work??

Double Darkside is usually associated with a rear tire on the front.  Rear tires generally have more tread depth and last longer.  Some believe it is better to mount them in reverse rotation as they are designed to withstand hard acceleration forces while the front incurs hard deceleration (braking) forces.

Darkside is usually associated in running a tire designed for a car on the rear of a motorcycle.  Car tires have deeper tread depth, higher load range and are available in some sizes as a runflat tire.

You are free to try a car tire on the front.  Don't know what label to apply to that.
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