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Stay or Go? Was the New York Times just stirring the pot? We’re they trying to goad Trump into making a bad decision? Rosenstein says inaccurate but he is a man so he should just “shut up” and wait for a woman to tell us what the truth is as they must be believed.
Can you tell I’m a little upset with the Senator from Hawaii?
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2018, 10:31:19 AM » |
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No matter what hes GONE.  He may also face indictment in the future. Once the information is declassified and made public there will be no place to hide.  |
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I suspect that after the election he is toast.
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2018, 02:22:37 PM » |
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WHO IS LISA BARSOOMIAN?
Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background. Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller. Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.
Lawrence also represented:Robert Mueller three times;
James Comey five times;
Barack Obama 45 times;
Kathleen Sebelius 56 times;
Bill Clinton 40 times;
Hillary Clinton 17 times.
Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times. OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman? Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?). Someone out there cares so much that the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian. Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health. This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities. What does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter? It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California , the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.
Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?
BECAUSE….she is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE….!
I see the basis for major conflict of interest here.
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I suspect that after the election he is toast.
If.......the elections still give the majority to the GOP. If it swings the other way any chance of obtaining the truth will immediately be squashed. Nothing to see here folks, Washington is here to protect you! |
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2018, 04:36:26 PM » |
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WHO IS LISA BARSOOMIAN?
Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background. Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller. Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.
Lawrence also represented:Robert Mueller three times;
James Comey five times;
Barack Obama 45 times;
Kathleen Sebelius 56 times;
Bill Clinton 40 times;
Hillary Clinton 17 times.
Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times. OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman? Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?). Someone out there cares so much that the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian. Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health. This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities. What does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter? It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California , the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.
Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?
BECAUSE….she is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE….!
I see the basis for major conflict of interest here.
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WHO IS LISA BARSOOMIAN?
Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background. Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller. Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.
Lawrence also represented:Robert Mueller three times;
James Comey five times;
Barack Obama 45 times;
Kathleen Sebelius 56 times;
Bill Clinton 40 times;
Hillary Clinton 17 times.
Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times. OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman? Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?). Someone out there cares so much that the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian. Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health. This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities. What does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter? It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California , the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.
Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?
BECAUSE….she is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE….!
I see the basis for major conflict of interest here.
Conspiracy theory propagated by Roger Stone. As a government attorney she represented government employees including many Republicans. She was not a personal attorney for any of them. The same Roger Stone who is caught up with the Russians. |
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2018, 05:04:38 PM » |
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Sorry....it's not theory....it's fact. I don't doubt she has represented many gov't employees, including republicans. What I don't understand is how you can "represent" someone and not be their attorney, unless you're talking about them as a group.
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Sorry....it's not theory....it's fact. I don't doubt she has represented many gov't employees, including republicans. What I don't understand is how you can "represent" someone and not be their attorney, unless you're talking about them as a group.
John, she is a govt. atty. For instance if I sue Donald Trump because in his capacity as a government worker he ran over my dog and killed it, she is working for the govt. per se representing him in the case. A personal attorney would be paid by Donald Trump himself to represent him in a personal way for something not government related. |
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2018, 05:35:57 PM » |
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Whatever the truth is, it seems like a family affair. I wonder how many husband wife teams there are floating around in our bureaucracy?
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John I am eternally grateful to you I was feeling a bit put on by the names at least now I know I'm in good company. We conspiracy theorists have to stick together since we have the moral authority or all knowing one here.    ## Deputy A.G. Bruce Ohr and his beautiful wife House Judiciary chair: Nellie Ohr is cooperating, will testify Bruce Genesoke Ohr is a United States Department of Justice official. A former associate deputy attorney general and former director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF), as of February 2018 Ohr was working in the Justice Department's Criminal Division. He is an expert on transnational organized crime and has spent most of his career overseeing gang and racketeering-related prosecutions, including Russian organized crime. Nellie Ohr earned a degree in history and Russian literature at Harvard and received a doctorate degree from Stanford in history. For a time she was an assistant professor at Vassar College before moving on to work as an independent contractor doing research and translation projects having to do with Russian science and technology. She is also a member of the Women in International Security, an organization that is "dedicated to advancing the leadership and professional development of women in the field of international peace and security." Nellie Ohr entered the controversy surrounding the Steele dossier because she was working for Fusion GPS, a commercial research and strategic intelligence firm based in Washington, D.C., which had hired Christopher Steele. She reportedly worked for the firm during the 2016 election. ## Peter Strzok's "insurance policy" is his wife, SEC Director Melissa Hodgman, is Associate Director of the Enforcement Division of the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and who has blocked the FBI's probe of the Clinton Foundation for 21 months and counting Melissa Hodgman-Strzok (Strock) was put in charge of the Clinton Foundation investigation three weeks before the last Presidential election. She has been blocking it ever since. She was appointed to her current position two days after her husband found out that the New York office of the FBI found 650,000 emails on a lap top in another criminal case. Her husband, Peter Strzok, was in charge of the FBI's probe into the Clinton Foundation. He gets a second check working for the CIA. ## Hillary's father ran Chicago mob after Al Capone Hugh Rodham and Dan Rostenkowski took over (and ran) the Chicago Mob", according to Larry Nichols. Nichols is a former trusted adviser to Bill and Hillary Clinton, Nichols helped run Bill's political campaigns while Bill was President and Governor of Arkansas. Nichols also broke the story of the Awan brothers. They made untold millions by selling information while working in charge of the computer networks for the White House, Congress, Hillary Clinton, and the Democratic Party. ## No surprise at all that Hillary Clinton's attorney is the super-connected Beth Wilkinson, married to NBC's David Gregory and an alumna of the Web Hubbell DOJ and the Jamie Gorelick Fannie Mae – you know, the same people in James Comey's FBI. Peter Strzok may have a variation on the game, using his mistress Lisa Page as his ladder-climbing pal in the DOJ. ## Bill Priestap, is an American attorney and intelligence official. Since 2015, he has been the assistant director of the FBI Counterintelligence Division. Priestap is married to Sabina Menschel, the current head of the Washington, D.C., office of Nardello & Co, a detective agency. Menschel's father, Richard Menschel, is a Goldman Sachs investment banker, philanthropist and Democratic donor, as is her uncle Robert Menschel. His mother-in-law, Ronay A. Menschel, was a Democratic deputy mayor of New York City under Ed Koch. Sabina Menshell Prior to joining Nardello & Co., she served as a Managing Director at an international risk consultancy in New York and then in Washington, DC. She joined that firm at its inception and helped establish its investigative practice. She also played an active role in client engagements, including leading a billion dollar asset recovery investigation of a family-controlled company for a US multinational. She has led numerous other asset searches against foreign sovereigns, global and domestic corporations and high-net worth individuals. 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Imagine that ? Women and men meeting in college and getting married. Meeting in Law School and getting married. Meeting at work and getting married. What a deceitful little conspiracy they weave. I guess my wife and I must be part of the "Deep State", we met at work and got married.  |
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2018, 06:11:17 PM » |
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Maybe it’s what they do with their positions that’s more important. Did you and your wife corner the meat distribution market?
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Maybe it’s what they do with their positions that’s more important. Did you and your wife corner the meat distribution market?
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Imagine that ? Women and men meeting in college and getting married. Meeting in Law School and getting married. Meeting at work and getting married. What a deceitful little conspiracy they weave. I guess my wife and I must be part of the "Deep State", we met at work and got married. We all know that these fun loving, patriotic couples that mee in college, married, and hooked their wagons to the most corrupt politicians in history, would remain ethical, and only have the best interests of the country and it's citizens at heart through out their careers. Never thinking of doing ANYTHING even remotely unconstitutional or illegal. Just like a person ALLEGED to have had an error in judgement @17 years old, and not convicted or even accused when it ALLEGEDLY happened, is after 35 years a sexual predator and deserves to have his life's dream taken from him. I don't get how you think you can play both sides of an issue. |
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Imagine that ? Women and men meeting in college and getting married. Meeting in Law School and getting married. Meeting at work and getting married. What a deceitful little conspiracy they weave. I guess my wife and I must be part of the "Deep State", we met at work and got married. We all know that these fun loving, patriotic couples that mee in college, married, and hooked their wagons to the most corrupt politicians in history, would remain ethical, and only have the best interests of the country and it's citizens at heart through out their careers. Never thinking of doing ANYTHING even remotely unconstitutional or illegal. Just like a person ALLEGED to have had an error in judgement @17 years old, and not convicted or even accused when it ALLEGEDLY happened, is after 35 years a sexual predator and deserves to have his life's dream taken from him. I don't get how you think you can play both sides of an issue. 2 completely separate things. Someone said that there was a conspiracy because Rosenstein was married to a fellow lawyer. I'm just pointing out that people who go to school together, work together tend to meet, date, and marry. Nothing really sinister at all. As far as Kavanaugh, I never said he was a sexual predator or he should be denied "his life's dream". I am saying a simple investigation should be done. Hell, it would probably be over by now if they would have. I definitely think his buddy should be questioned. |
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Imagine that ? Women and men meeting in college and getting married. Meeting in Law School and getting married. Meeting at work and getting married. What a deceitful little conspiracy they weave. I guess my wife and I must be part of the "Deep State", we met at work and got married. We all know that these fun loving, patriotic couples that mee in college, married, and hooked their wagons to the most corrupt politicians in history, would remain ethical, and only have the best interests of the country and it's citizens at heart through out their careers. Never thinking of doing ANYTHING even remotely unconstitutional or illegal. Just like a person ALLEGED to have had an error in judgement @17 years old, and not convicted or even accused when it ALLEGEDLY happened, is after 35 years a sexual predator and deserves to have his life's dream taken from him. I don't get how you think you can play both sides of an issue. 2 completely separate things. Someone said that there was a conspiracy because Rosenstein was married to a fellow lawyer. I'm just pointing out that people who go to school together, work together tend to meet, date, and marry. Nothing really sinister at all. As far as Kavanaugh, I never said he was a sexual predator or he should be denied "his life's dream". I am saying a simple investigation should be done. Hell, it would probably be over by now if they would have. I definitely think his buddy should be questioned. You have to recognize that an investigation might could have been completed but no matter the conclusion, the controversy would continue at least until after the election. |
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Imagine that ? Women and men meeting in college and getting married. Meeting in Law School and getting married. Meeting at work and getting married. What a deceitful little conspiracy they weave. I guess my wife and I must be part of the "Deep State", we met at work and got married. We all know that these fun loving, patriotic couples that mee in college, married, and hooked their wagons to the most corrupt politicians in history, would remain ethical, and only have the best interests of the country and it's citizens at heart through out their careers. Never thinking of doing ANYTHING even remotely unconstitutional or illegal. Just like a person ALLEGED to have had an error in judgement @17 years old, and not convicted or even accused when it ALLEGEDLY happened, is after 35 years a sexual predator and deserves to have his life's dream taken from him. I don't get how you think you can play both sides of an issue. 2 completely separate things. Someone said that there was a conspiracy because Rosenstein was married to a fellow lawyer. I'm just pointing out that people who go to school together, work together tend to meet, date, and marry. Nothing really sinister at all. As far as Kavanaugh, I never said he was a sexual predator or he should be denied "his life's dream". I am saying a simple investigation should be done. Hell, it would probably be over by now if they would have. I definitely think his buddy should be questioned. You have to recognize that an investigation might could have been completed but no matter the conclusion, the controversy would continue at least until after the election. Maybe. It's hard to predict what will come up in an investigation. As a side note, it seems the accused would welcome the investigation. As it stands now it will basically be a "he said, she said". Were it to come out in a independent look that there was nothing there, it seems that would serve him much better. |
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Imagine that ? Women and men meeting in college and getting married. Meeting in Law School and getting married. Meeting at work and getting married. What a deceitful little conspiracy they weave. I guess my wife and I must be part of the "Deep State", we met at work and got married. We all know that these fun loving, patriotic couples that mee in college, married, and hooked their wagons to the most corrupt politicians in history, would remain ethical, and only have the best interests of the country and it's citizens at heart through out their careers. Never thinking of doing ANYTHING even remotely unconstitutional or illegal. Just like a person ALLEGED to have had an error in judgement @17 years old, and not convicted or even accused when it ALLEGEDLY happened, is after 35 years a sexual predator and deserves to have his life's dream taken from him. I don't get how you think you can play both sides of an issue. 2 completely separate things. Someone said that there was a conspiracy because Rosenstein was married to a fellow lawyer. I'm just pointing out that people who go to school together, work together tend to meet, date, and marry. Nothing really sinister at all. As far as Kavanaugh, I never said he was a sexual predator or he should be denied "his life's dream". I am saying a simple investigation should be done. Hell, it would probably be over by now if they would have. I definitely think his buddy should be questioned. You have to recognize that an investigation might could have been completed but no matter the conclusion, the controversy would continue at least until after the election. Maybe. It's hard to predict what will come up in an investigation. As a side note, it seems the accused would welcome the investigation. As it stands now it will basically be a "he said, she said". Were it to come out in a independent look that there was nothing there, it seems that would serve him much better. Explain then why he is willing to be questioned by a Federal Prosecutor and she is not. To me that is just as good if not better than a FBI investigation. |
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Imagine that ? Women and men meeting in college and getting married. Meeting in Law School and getting married. Meeting at work and getting married. What a deceitful little conspiracy they weave. I guess my wife and I must be part of the "Deep State", we met at work and got married. We all know that these fun loving, patriotic couples that mee in college, married, and hooked their wagons to the most corrupt politicians in history, would remain ethical, and only have the best interests of the country and it's citizens at heart through out their careers. Never thinking of doing ANYTHING even remotely unconstitutional or illegal. Just like a person ALLEGED to have had an error in judgement @17 years old, and not convicted or even accused when it ALLEGEDLY happened, is after 35 years a sexual predator and deserves to have his life's dream taken from him. I don't get how you think you can play both sides of an issue. 2 completely separate things. Someone said that there was a conspiracy because Rosenstein was married to a fellow lawyer. I'm just pointing out that people who go to school together, work together tend to meet, date, and marry. Nothing really sinister at all. As far as Kavanaugh, I never said he was a sexual predator or he should be denied "his life's dream". I am saying a simple investigation should be done. Hell, it would probably be over by now if they would have. I definitely think his buddy should be questioned. You have to recognize that an investigation might could have been completed but no matter the conclusion, the controversy would continue at least until after the election. Maybe. It's hard to predict what will come up in an investigation. As a side note, it seems the accused would welcome the investigation. As it stands now it will basically be a "he said, she said". Were it to come out in a independent look that there was nothing there, it seems that would serve him much better. Explain then why he is willing to be questioned by a Federal Prosecutor and she is not. To me that is just as good if not better than a FBI investigation. I can't explain the thinking on either's part. A simple background investigation, with questioning of the people involved sure can't hurt in my opinion. |
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Imagine that ? Women and men meeting in college and getting married. Meeting in Law School and getting married. Meeting at work and getting married. What a deceitful little conspiracy they weave. I guess my wife and I must be part of the "Deep State", we met at work and got married. We all know that these fun loving, patriotic couples that mee in college, married, and hooked their wagons to the most corrupt politicians in history, would remain ethical, and only have the best interests of the country and it's citizens at heart through out their careers. Never thinking of doing ANYTHING even remotely unconstitutional or illegal. Just like a person ALLEGED to have had an error in judgement @17 years old, and not convicted or even accused when it ALLEGEDLY happened, is after 35 years a sexual predator and deserves to have his life's dream taken from him. I don't get how you think you can play both sides of an issue. 2 completely separate things. Someone said that there was a conspiracy because Rosenstein was married to a fellow lawyer. I'm just pointing out that people who go to school together, work together tend to meet, date, and marry. Nothing really sinister at all. As far as Kavanaugh, I never said he was a sexual predator or he should be denied "his life's dream". I am saying a simple investigation should be done. Hell, it would probably be over by now if they would have. I definitely think his buddy should be questioned. You have to recognize that an investigation might could have been completed but no matter the conclusion, the controversy would continue at least until after the election. Maybe. It's hard to predict what will come up in an investigation. As a side note, it seems the accused would welcome the investigation. As it stands now it will basically be a "he said, she said". Were it to come out in a independent look that there was nothing there, it seems that would serve him much better. Explain then why he is willing to be questioned by a Federal Prosecutor and she is not. To me that is just as good if not better than a FBI investigation. I can't explain the thinking on either's part. A simple background investigation, with questioning of the people involved sure can't hurt in my opinion. Are you saying an investigation, background or otherwise, HASN'T been conducted? I'm sure one has, the Dems just don't like the outcome. And, by the way, the accuser should also be investigated. |
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Imagine that ? Women and men meeting in college and getting married. Meeting in Law School and getting married. Meeting at work and getting married. What a deceitful little conspiracy they weave. I guess my wife and I must be part of the "Deep State", we met at work and got married. We all know that these fun loving, patriotic couples that mee in college, married, and hooked their wagons to the most corrupt politicians in history, would remain ethical, and only have the best interests of the country and it's citizens at heart through out their careers. Never thinking of doing ANYTHING even remotely unconstitutional or illegal. Just like a person ALLEGED to have had an error in judgement @17 years old, and not convicted or even accused when it ALLEGEDLY happened, is after 35 years a sexual predator and deserves to have his life's dream taken from him. I don't get how you think you can play both sides of an issue. 2 completely separate things. Someone said that there was a conspiracy because Rosenstein was married to a fellow lawyer. I'm just pointing out that people who go to school together, work together tend to meet, date, and marry. Nothing really sinister at all. As far as Kavanaugh, I never said he was a sexual predator or he should be denied "his life's dream". I am saying a simple investigation should be done. Hell, it would probably be over by now if they would have. I definitely think his buddy should be questioned. You have to recognize that an investigation might could have been completed but no matter the conclusion, the controversy would continue at least until after the election. Maybe. It's hard to predict what will come up in an investigation. As a side note, it seems the accused would welcome the investigation. As it stands now it will basically be a "he said, she said". Were it to come out in a independent look that there was nothing there, it seems that would serve him much better. Explain then why he is willing to be questioned by a Federal Prosecutor and she is not. To me that is just as good if not better than a FBI investigation. I can't explain the thinking on either's part. A simple background investigation, with questioning of the people involved sure can't hurt in my opinion. Are you saying an investigation, background or otherwise, HASN'T been conducted? I'm sure one has, the Dems just don't like the outcome. And, by the way, the accuser should also be investigated. I'm saying the background check should be added to by interviewing Kavanaugh, Blasey, Judge about these accusations. I also think interviewing roommates and friends at the time would be wise. |
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« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2018, 09:14:29 AM » |
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Keep in mind the FBI had already conducted a background investigation on Kavanaugh prior to his nomination. In fact, due to his previous appointments he has undergone something like six background investigations to date, not including the one for the current nomination. The woman had plenty of time over the last few years to come forward with her claim, but the fact is she and her girlfriends were known as heavy party girls. They were the female contingment of the so-called "white privileged" students....same as Kananaugh was of the male population. I always tried to instill in my four girls the thought of "if you don't want to be looked upon as loose or immoral, don't act, talk, or dress like it." It seems to have worked.  |
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« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2018, 09:30:38 AM » |
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Keep in mind the FBI had already conducted a background investigation on Kavanaugh prior to his nomination. In fact, due to his previous appointments he has undergone something like six background investigations to date, not including the one for the current nomination. The woman had plenty of time over the last few years to come forward with her claim, but the fact is she and her girlfriends were known as heavy party girls. They were the female contingment of the so-called "white privileged" students....same as Kananaugh was of the male population. I always tried to instill in my four girls the thought of "if you don't want to be looked upon as loose or immoral, don't act, talk, or dress like it." It seems to have worked. Bingo - There has been plenty of Background investigations of Judge Kavanaugh, why didn't the accusers come out then ? There maybe legitimate reasons to not confirm him (I'm not saying there is or not), but this accusation is not one of them. I think the republicans ought to call the bluff and schedule the committee vote as soon as the Senate rules allow them to. |
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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2018, 09:37:53 AM » |
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Keep in mind the FBI had already conducted a background investigation on Kavanaugh prior to his nomination. In fact, due to his previous appointments he has undergone something like six background investigations to date, not including the one for the current nomination. The woman had plenty of time over the last few years to come forward with her claim, but the fact is she and her girlfriends were known as heavy party girls. They were the female contingment of the so-called "white privileged" students....same as Kananaugh was of the male population. I always tried to instill in my four girls the thought of "if you don't want to be looked upon as loose or immoral, don't act, talk, or dress like it." It seems to have worked. Bingo - There has been plenty of Background investigations of Judge Kavanaugh, why didn't the accusers come out then ? There maybe legitimate reasons to not confirm him (I'm not saying there is or not), but this accusation is not one of them. I think the republicans ought to call the bluff and schedule the committee vote as soon as the Senate rules allow them to. By most law enforcement estimates only 20% of these things are reported. There are many reasons why. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-compassion-chronicles/201711/why-dont-victims-sexual-harassment-come-forward-sooner |
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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2018, 09:42:49 AM » |
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We don't care about averages, we care about THIS CASE.
The fact that her allegation cannot be proved or disproved is clear.... and very telling.
Vote on Thursday.
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« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2018, 10:09:19 AM » |
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I can't believe people still believe her. I don't at all. Show me proof or shut up.
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« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2018, 10:19:17 AM » |
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Keep in mind the FBI had already conducted a background investigation on Kavanaugh prior to his nomination. In fact, due to his previous appointments he has undergone something like six background investigations to date, not including the one for the current nomination. The woman had plenty of time over the last few years to come forward with her claim, but the fact is she and her girlfriends were known as heavy party girls. They were the female contingment of the so-called "white privileged" students....same as Kananaugh was of the male population. I always tried to instill in my four girls the thought of "if you don't want to be looked upon as loose or immoral, don't act, talk, or dress like it." It seems to have worked. Bingo - There has been plenty of Background investigations of Judge Kavanaugh, why didn't the accusers come out then ? There maybe legitimate reasons to not confirm him (I'm not saying there is or not), but this accusation is not one of them. I think the republicans ought to call the bluff and schedule the committee vote as soon as the Senate rules allow them to. By most law enforcement estimates only 20% of these things are reported. There are many reasons why. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-compassion-chronicles/201711/why-dont-victims-sexual-harassment-come-forward-soonerAt this point I'm starting to think that you're just enjoying, "Poking the Bear". If the background checks that he has been through are anything like what is done for a Top Secret Security Clearance then most of his friends have been interviewed multiple times already. And why are you giving so much creedence to her accusation? The details are sketchier than ocean front property in AZ and her timing could not be more convienent. She has been given the opportunity to tell her story to the committee. Instead of jumping at the chance she is doing everything possible to get out of it. Her credibility just isn't there. |
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« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2018, 10:22:08 AM » |
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I can't believe people still believe her. I don't at all. Show me proof or shut up.
Gavin I don't believe her either. But the dems don't need proof. Just her saying it happened is enough for them. But women that accused Bill Clinton,Cory Booker and Keith Ellison are all liers. |
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« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2018, 10:34:38 AM » |
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I can't believe people still believe her. I don't at all. Show me proof or shut up.
Gavin I don't believe her either. But the dems don't need proof. Just her saying it happened is enough for them. But women that accused Bill Clinton,Cory Booker and Keith Ellison are all liers. Well if that is how it works..... Meathead tried to touch me inappropriately one time in his dreams. I feared for my life. But now that I think about it maybe it wasn't him in his dream. See how crazy that sounds? |
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« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2018, 11:11:50 AM » |
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I can't believe people still believe her. I don't at all. Show me proof or shut up.
Gavin I don't believe her either. But the dems don't need proof. Just her saying it happened is enough for them. But women that accused Bill Clinton,Cory Booker and Keith Ellison are all liers. Well if that is how it works..... Meathead tried to touch me inappropriately one time in his dreams. I feared for my life. But now that I think about it maybe it wasn't him in his dream. See how crazy that sounds? I don't know Gavin, I believe you. I think Meathead should be investigated. |
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« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2018, 12:12:58 PM » |
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Keep in mind the FBI had already conducted a background investigation on Kavanaugh prior to his nomination. In fact, due to his previous appointments he has undergone something like six background investigations to date, not including the one for the current nomination. The woman had plenty of time over the last few years to come forward with her claim, but the fact is she and her girlfriends were known as heavy party girls. They were the female contingment of the so-called "white privileged" students....same as Kananaugh was of the male population. I always tried to instill in my four girls the thought of "if you don't want to be looked upon as loose or immoral, don't act, talk, or dress like it." It seems to have worked. Bingo - There has been plenty of Background investigations of Judge Kavanaugh, why didn't the accusers come out then ? There maybe legitimate reasons to not confirm him (I'm not saying there is or not), but this accusation is not one of them. I think the republicans ought to call the bluff and schedule the committee vote as soon as the Senate rules allow them to. By most law enforcement estimates only 20% of these things are reported. There are many reasons why. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-compassion-chronicles/201711/why-dont-victims-sexual-harassment-come-forward-soonerAt this point I'm starting to think that you're just enjoying, "Poking the Bear". If the background checks that he has been through are anything like what is done for a Top Secret Security Clearance then most of his friends have been interviewed multiple times already. And why are you giving so much creedence to her accusation? The details are sketchier than ocean front property in AZ and her timing could not be more convienent. She has been given the opportunity to tell her story to the committee. Instead of jumping at the chance she is doing everything possible to get out of it. Her credibility just isn't there. What creedence have I given her ? I'm saying the story should be looked at by impartial eyes. I don't know how many times I have to say that I have no idea of her truthfulness. If you truly believe this committee is after the truth, you are deluding yourself. 99.9% of them on both sides made up their minds weeks ago. I haven't heard any of his friends from school say they were contacted by any FBI for a background check. Generally speaking they go back to the age of 18. Just for a reference, many many years ago I was given a Top Secret Clearance. I never heard from ONE friend or family member that anybody had contacted them. |
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« Reply #34 on: September 25, 2018, 12:31:16 PM » |
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... FBI for a background check. Generally speaking they go back to the age of 18. ...
Hmmm. Don't you think there might be a reason for that? |
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« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2018, 12:39:27 PM » |
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I got my security clearance @ the age of 18, so I would assume they went back further. That or they only investigated a couple weeks of my life.
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« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2018, 12:46:54 PM » |
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Mine was at 17, the summer before I turned 18 in December.
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« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2018, 01:01:09 PM » |
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I got my security clearance @ the age of 18, so I would assume they went back further. That or they only investigated a couple weeks of my life.
Same here. And I know for a fact that they did interview people from my hometown |
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« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2018, 01:03:44 PM » |
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... FBI for a background check. Generally speaking they go back to the age of 18. ...
Hmmm. Don't you think there might be a reason for that? Yes, I do.  |
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« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2018, 02:05:24 PM » |
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... FBI for a background check. Generally speaking they go back to the age of 18. ...
Hmmm. Don't you think there might be a reason for that? Yes, I do. Perhaps that was too subtle. Apparently the government considers what happened when one was 17 irrelevant. |
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