Buffeting

[superjoe37]

I recently purchased an 01 Standard and love it. However, I get a significant amount of air blowing up both sides of the gas tank. I purchased and installed the Rifle lowers and they did not seem to help, at least not much. I still have a good amount of air hitting under my chin (an man, does it make the beard do some crazy things!). Is there something else out there I can do to take care of this issue?

[The emperor has no clothes]

I haven’t used the Rifle lowers. Are they adjustable up and down and tipped in or out ? My Memphis lowers helped a lot with the buffeting.

[da prez]

Braid the beard. I did.

           da prez

[98valk]

add baker airwings.

http://bakerbuiltairwings.com/proddetail.php?prod=1VALAWUP

[Tfrank59]

add baker airwings.

http://bakerbuiltairwings.com/proddetail.php?prod=1VALAWUP

+1     I've had the Baker air wings uppers and lowers for three Winters now and they're great

[DarkSideR]

Question, what windshield do you have?

Next, I also have the Riffle Lowers, and they did fix the hot air hitting my chin. Play with the angle of the lowers until this stops.

Lastly, if you have highway pegs and ride with your feet up on them the wind off your legs will cause a similar effect. Test with feet on the pegs.

Hope this helps.

[MarkT]

Another possibility is to fill the vacuum behind the shield from another direction.  You can tip the shield back with a couple 1.25" metal straps at the bottom mount which will lift the cutout above the headlight and create a vent.  It's reversible if it doesn't work for you and costs very little.  

http://www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Tech_Tips/Windshield_Tipping/windshield_tipping.html

Or if it's time to replace your shield, get a Clearview with a vent built in.  Then you can open or close it.

[98valk]

I use these 14" long memphis shades fork deflectors
https://memphisshades.com/collections/wind-management-1/fork-deflectors

with this mounting kit  https://www.denniskirk.com/memphis-shades/lowers-hardware-kit-mem9887.p230801.prd/230801.sku

[pais]

  Glad to see this post. I hear lottsa good things consistrntly about the Baker's. Anybody using them with a Woody's fairing on there bike? Like to know if they fit OK with a Woody?

    Thanx
      Pais

[superjoe37]

98 valk, I may get the airwings in the future. I seem to have a lot of air coming off the sides of the radiator. I saw the post on the front fork tool bag, I might try it first simply due to the cost.

darksider, it is one of the national cycles two-up windshields, but i actually cut it down to the right height for just me @ 5'10". So now it is 14" H x 24.5" W. It was mainly your post that convinced me to get the rifle lowers and I like them a lot. In some situations I can tell a difference but at other times my beard is getting blown straight out, but not as much up in my mouth...which is an improvement. I will mess around wit the angle a bit, an I do have the highway pegs.

da prez, lol my beard isn't quite long enough yet or I would!

This is the only forum I ever joined, that was my first post, and this is my first reply...so, if I am doing it wrong I apologize!!

Thanks everyone for the input

[The emperor has no clothes]

98 valk, I may get the airwings in the future. I seem to have a lot of air coming off the sides of the radiator. I saw the post on the front fork tool bag, I might try it first simply due to the cost.

darksider, it is one of the national cycles two-up windshields, but i actually cut it down to the right height for just me @ 5'10". So now it is 14" H x 24.5" W. It was mainly your post that convinced me to get the rifle lowers and I like them a lot. In some situations I can tell a difference but at other times my beard is getting blown straight out, but not as much up in my mouth...which is an improvement. I will mess around wit the angle a bit, an I do have the highway pegs.

da prez, lol my beard isn't quite long enough yet or I would!

This is the only forum I ever joined, that was my first post, and this is my first reply...so, if I am doing it wrong I apologize!!

Thanks everyone for the input

You are doing it just fine. 

[Jess from VA]

Be very careful of a fork tool bag. 

You must calculate maximum possible (not usual) fork compression.  It is easy to have a big ooh-crap after you hit a pothole and ding the hell out of your front fender.

Years ago, with a different bike, I mounted one of those old nostalgic 5" horns under there, and a week later had to pull the fender off for bump and paint work.  And the crease was not easy to fix.

Forehead smack moment. 

[98valk]

Be very careful of a fork tool bag. 

You must calculate maximum possible (not usual) fork compression.  It is easy to have a big ooh-crap after you hit a pothole and ding the hell out of your front fender.

Years ago, with a different bike, I mounted one of those old nostalgic 5" horns under there, and a week later had to pull the fender off for bump and paint work.  And the crease was not easy to fix.

Forehead smack moment. 

wasn't there a post a few wks ago someone was having problems with overheating which went away after removing their tool bag?

[Tfrank59]

That might have been me (okay, it wasn't cuz my post was a few years ago  ), but it wasn't overheating I was just concerned that I might if I mounted a tool bag on my Forks. Turns out it was fine and I had it on there for a few years but have since removed it cuz I decided it looks ugly

[Fazer]

Super Joe--I had a clearview shield, 17" that I replaced with a batwing fairing, which I replaced with a Woody's fairing.  I had buffeting with the shield and the batwing, although the batwing was better after adding the lowers (which had to be trimmed togo around the turn signals.)  The woody's fairing barley clears the turn signals.  I have since added the Baker Airwings and consider them the best mod to the bike so far.  I still had to contour the top of the upper airwing to miss the fairing when turning lock to lock, but it works great.

++1 on the Baker Air Wings.  If you buy 'em and don't like 'em, they sell like wild fire.  In fact I would buy 'em for my son'w new to him Valk.

[Leathel]

Be very careful of a fork tool bag. 

You must calculate maximum possible (not usual) fork compression.  It is easy to have a big ooh-crap after you hit a pothole and ding the hell out of your front fender.

Years ago, with a different bike, I mounted one of those old nostalgic 5" horns under there, and a week later had to pull the fender off for bump and paint work.  And the crease was not easy to fix.

Forehead smack moment. 

On a ride with friends a few years ago one in the group had put a fork bag on, during the ride we crossed a rough rail line crossing and the bag bottomed on the guard..but due to the lack of clearance to the wheel grabbed the guard, momentarily locked the front wheel ...... and near tore the guard off, he didn't go down but it was close (we had to remove his guard to keep riding)

 Certainly max travel needs to be looked at

[superjoe37]

Appreciate the warnings regarding the tool bag...will definitely check it prior to riding!

[superjoe37]

Frazer, I would order the airwings today but am not up to the challenge of explaining why I need to spend another $300 right now

[98valk]

Frazer, I would order the airwings today but am not up to the challenge of explaining why I need to spend another $300 right now

ebay sometimes they show up. 

[DarkSideR]

darksider, it is one of the national cycles two-up windshields, but i actually cut it down to the right height for just me @ 5'10". So now it is 14" H x 24.5" W. It was mainly your post that convinced me to get the rifle lowers and I like them a lot. In some situations I can tell a difference but at other times my beard is getting blown straight out, but not as much up in my mouth...which is an improvement. I will mess around wit the angle a bit, an I do have the highway pegs.

If your windshield mounts have adjustment slots try to angle the windshield back a bit. This will do 2 things;
1st - it will open up a small gap above the headlight which will let in a small amount of air. That small amount of air does an amazing job at stabilizing air in the cockpit.
 - See in this picture the gap above the headlight? This really helped on my bike.

2nd - by angling the windshield back it allows air to travel over the windshield more smoothly. You want to eliminate the "Flat Brick" effect as much as you can.
 - See in the picture how angled back the windshield it? This also helped.

I had a Memphis Shades Windshield in the picture above. I had actually filed slots in my mounts to be able to adjust the windshield back like that.

I now have a Tourer Mount, with a Clearview Shield and Vent. Heaven.

[Bighead]

No knocking or talking bad about anyone here.......but it amazes me at the amount of people not just here but on other forums that ride Motorcycles and complain or dont want wind hitting them....my answer is drive your car. I ride motorcycles and EXPECT wind,rain,bugs and anything else that is in the path of my travels......just sayin. 

[The emperor has no clothes]

No knocking or talking bad about anyone here.......but it amazes me at the amount of people not just here but on other forums that ride Motorcycles and complain or dont want wind hitting them....my answer is drive your car. I ride motorcycles and EXPECT wind,rain,bugs and anything else that is in the path of my travels......just sayin. 

I like wind. I don't like buffeting wind that blurs your vision. It cuts down on the amount of miles you can put in.

[Tfrank59]

I didn't think you guys have wind in Arizona

[The emperor has no clothes]

I didn't think you guys have wind in Arizona

Oh mama ! We got wind. Sometimes it will blow hard enough to sandblast you. But it's the under tank wind buffeting that I really dislike. For me, the Memphis lowers took care of it though.

[DarkSideR]

Wind is good, on short rides. Do 900 mile days like I regulary do, and I prefer protection.

One can have the best of both worlds.

[Jess from VA]

My first few bikes were no windshield.  Then I got a 750/4 with Vetter fairing, and I never went back.

Then 15 years ago, I went to buy a new bike 80 miles away, and discovered that at 70 mph with no windshield, my half helmet chin strap could actually strangle me.  I had to either look down to stop the wind from getting under the front edge, or use my left hand to hold it straight.  I only wear half (DOT) helmets, year round.

I like a happy mix of wind and protection. 

[Hooter]

No knocking or talking bad about anyone here.......but it amazes me at the amount of people not just here but on other forums that ride Motorcycles and complain or dont want wind hitting them....my answer is drive your car. I ride motorcycles and EXPECT wind,rain,bugs and anything else that is in the path of my travels......just sayin. 

I like wind. I don't like buffeting wind that blurs your vision. It cuts down on the amount of miles you can put in.

Well said Mr. Head.

[Tourus]

     Baker air wings for me on my 2000 tourer, they work great. Bought mine off the classifieds for about half price, in like new condition. Replacement wings are not expensive so if you can find some that have nice supports but maybe the wings have yellowed or have a crack buy them and replace part, you won't regret it

[superjoe37]

Darksider, I like the shield in your pics a lot, may try to got one. Previously my shield was practically touching the headlight. I have moved it up about half an inch. I think with that and the Rifle lowers the buffeting is gone. I noticed on the pick with the clearview it appears your lowers have been removed, did you feel they were no longer necessary with the clearview shield?

Frazer, I will look at ebay and craigslist, who knows maybe I get lucky!

Bighead, I love wind in my face! What I dislike is my beard blowing straight out or worse up in my mouth. Fortunately it isn't long enough to blow up into my eyes however, that means it's also not long enough to put in a "pony tail". Is it too much to want a long beard and also ride a motorcycle? I am looking for a way to enjoy both. If it's impossible, ok. If there are guys out there who have cracked the code, I'd like know what they did so I can implement it.

Thanks all

[DarkSideR]

Darksider, I like the shield in your pics a lot, may try to got one. Previously my shield was practically touching the headlight. I have moved it up about half an inch. I think with that and the Rifle lowers the buffeting is gone. I noticed on the pick with the clearview it appears your lowers have been removed, did you feel they were no longer necessary with the clearview shield?

Thanks all

That picture was taken after doing some work to the bike where I had removed some parts. I am still running my Rifle Lowers.

I had ridden 600 miles back from Tulsa, OK. without the lowers. I immediately put them back on. I just got back from a trip to Houston (900 miles each way), and love the lowers.

Keep playing with things. The angle of the lowers will make a difference. And keep you feet off the highway pegs when testing.

Hope this helps.

[Bagger John - #3785]

My first few bikes were no windshield.  Then I got a 750/4 with Vetter fairing, and I never went back.

My experiences were very similar, except after several years of riding it I put a Windjammer and Shoei bags on my '75 SOHC Four and never looked back.

Anything which helps you ride longer and be safer while doing it is a benefit. If I want wind, my Tourer's mounting hardware setup allows for quick switchover to a Memphis Batwing, various Fats, a Bob Dron mini-fairing (remember those?) or no shield at all.

[cookiedough]

No knocking or talking bad about anyone here.......but it amazes me at the amount of people not just here but on other forums that ride Motorcycles and complain or dont want wind hitting them....my answer is drive your car. I ride motorcycles and EXPECT wind,rain,bugs and anything else that is in the path of my travels......just sayin. 

you also live in Alabama where it does not dip down below 50 degrees much.  Try riding with no windshield in 40-50 degree temps and you come to appreciate a nice windshield that blocks the wind from freezing you to death.  Plus,  bug splats on my helmet windshield and/or my face is not to my liking.

[Bighead]

Cookie I have ridden from here to bike week (750 miles in a day)in February and the temp never got to 30*. Yeah we dont have your insane cold for more than a week or two. But this post was made during HOT weather not the dead of winter.
I ride year round unless white stuff or ice. 

[superjoe37]

Dark sider, is the tourer mount you referred to earlier in this thread an aftermarket windshield mount? Did you purchase it online? I assume it is somewhat different than the standard mount offering more adjustability?

Thanks

[Mtn Valk]

+1on the Baker Air Wings. Purchased a used set of uppers & lowers 6 years ago. Problem solved.

[mrgeoff]

Any one here or use MotoWings...similar to Baker Wings...???