Kavanaugh hearing

[..]

You are willing to call someone mentally impaired, but are not willing to provide any evidence for it ? I thought lawyers dealt in facts ?

I think he just doesn't want to get into a debate with you about it, since no amount of facts will ever change your mind.  You hate Trump, you hate everyone associated with Trump, and the enemy of your enemy is automatically your friend.
You see, I feel you have an earned reputation as arguing just for the sake of arguing. 

I think if a person is going to call some crazy or mentally impaired with no evidence presented, they really aren’t much of a lawyer. But, that’s just me.

So NOW evidence is important. Funny how the value of evidence fluctuates with you.

 

[Willow]

I think if a person is going to call some crazy or mentally impaired with no evidence presented, they really aren’t much of a lawyer. But, that’s just me.

Just to keep me on your good side I don't think she's crazy.  I think she is an intentional and calculatling liar.  The details are carefully ambiguous enough to avoid being easily proven outright false.  

I recall a report that she had facebooked an entry advising that someone should accuse a nominated man of rape.  I can't find that again.  I'll buy lunch at InZane the first one who can find that again for me.  

[..]

Can remember 36 years ago.

Can't remember how polygraph was paid.

Can't remember day of grandmothers funeral 3 weeks previously.

And so on.

Some emojis for those who like them so much.

 

[Jess from VA]

You are willing to call someone mentally impaired, but are not willing to provide any evidence for it ? I thought lawyers dealt in facts ?

I think he just doesn't want to get into a debate with you about it, since no amount of facts will ever change your mind.  You hate Trump, you hate everyone associated with Trump, and the enemy of your enemy is automatically your friend.
You see, I feel you have an earned reputation as arguing just for the sake of arguing. 

I think if a person is going to call some crazy or mentally impaired with no evidence presented, they really aren’t much of a lawyer. But, that’s just me.

So, not wanting to get into Q & A with you makes me a bad lawyer?

I guess I'm a bad lawyer.

[Gavin_Sons]

You are willing to call someone mentally impaired, but are not willing to provide any evidence for it ? I thought lawyers dealt in facts ?

I think he just doesn't want to get into a debate with you about it, since no amount of facts will ever change your mind.  You hate Trump, you hate everyone associated with Trump, and the enemy of your enemy is automatically your friend.
You see, I feel you have an earned reputation as arguing just for the sake of arguing. 

I think if a person is going to call some crazy or mentally impaired with no evidence presented, they really aren’t much of a lawyer. But, that’s just me.

So, not wanting to get into Q & A with you makes me a bad lawyer?

I guess I'm a bad lawyer.

  consider the source. If he can't see the crazy he wont see it when it is pointed out either.

[Jess from VA]

I think if a person is going to call some crazy or mentally impaired with no evidence presented, they really aren’t much of a lawyer. But, that’s just me.

Just to keep me on your good side I don't think she's crazy.  I think she is an intentional and calculatling liar.  The details are carefully ambiguous enough to avoid being easily proven outright false.  

I recall a report that she had facebooked an entry advising that someone should accuse a nominated man of rape.  I can't find that again.  I'll buy lunch at InZane the first one who can find that again for me.  

You and me both Carl.  Now it was reported that this Faceplant page had been scrubbed, but someone else said it had been saved to a screen shot.... somewhere.

I waited breathlessly for the (extremely ineffective) handpicked prosecutor to get to that, or any of the senators, and it was never brought up.  (her choice was an incredible fumblerooskie)

That would be a very very significant piece of evidence, if it existed.  If it did, I would be in your camp on the calculated liar assessment.

Even if it couldn't be found, Ford should certainly have been asked about it.  To nail her down on it.  

If they knew it was just internet quackery, then no questions about it was appropriate.  Just because your opponents are scum, doesn't mean you should be.

[NewValker]

I say she’s bat $hit crazy because she wore Crooked Hillarys’ Benghazi/concussion glasses.
 
Craig

[Rams]

You are willing to call someone mentally impaired, but are not willing to provide any evidence for it ? I thought lawyers dealt in facts ?

I think he just doesn't want to get into a debate with you about it, since no amount of facts will ever change your mind.  You hate Trump, you hate everyone associated with Trump, and the enemy of your enemy is automatically your friend.
You see, I feel you have an earned reputation as arguing just for the sake of arguing. 

I think if a person is going to call some crazy or mentally impaired with no evidence presented, they really aren’t much of a lawyer. But, that’s just me.

So NOW evidence is important. Funny how the value of evidence fluctuates with you.

Hmmmm........ 

Rams

[f6gal]

I think if a person is going to call some crazy or mentally impaired with no evidence presented, they really aren’t much of a lawyer. But, that’s just me.

Just to keep me on your good side I don't think she's crazy.  I think she is an intentional and calculatling liar.  The details are carefully ambiguous enough to avoid being easily proven outright false.  

I recall a report that she had facebooked an entry advising that someone should accuse a nominated man of rape.  I can't find that again.  I'll buy lunch at InZane the first one who can find that again for me.  

[Willow]

f6gal, I owe you a lunch.   

[The emperor has no clothes]

f6gal, I owe you a lunch.   

That’s your evidence ? That somebody posted on Facebook saying she said that ? 

[The emperor has no clothes]

I say she’s bat $hit crazy because she wore Crooked Hillarys’ Benghazi/concussion glasses.
 
Craig

At least you came up with something Craig. Although eyewear doesn’t really show much in ones level of crazy.

[The emperor has no clothes]

You are willing to call someone mentally impaired, but are not willing to provide any evidence for it ? I thought lawyers dealt in facts ?

I think he just doesn't want to get into a debate with you about it, since no amount of facts will ever change your mind.  You hate Trump, you hate everyone associated with Trump, and the enemy of your enemy is automatically your friend.
You see, I feel you have an earned reputation as arguing just for the sake of arguing. 

I think if a person is going to call some crazy or mentally impaired with no evidence presented, they really aren’t much of a lawyer. But, that’s just me.

So, not wanting to get into Q & A with you makes me a bad lawyer?

I guess I'm a bad lawyer.

Either my post got pulled or I didn’t send it. I will attempt again. I have no idea if you are a bad lawyer or a good lawyer. But are not lawyers supposed to back up their statements with evidence ? If you truly think she is crazy or mentally impaired, why not explain such a denigrating statement ?

[baldo]

I think if a person is going to call some crazy or mentally impaired with no evidence presented, they really aren’t much of a lawyer. But, that’s just me.

Just to keep me on your good side I don't think she's crazy.  I think she is an intentional and calculatling liar.  The details are carefully ambiguous enough to avoid being easily proven outright false.  

I recall a report that she had facebooked an entry advising that someone should accuse a nominated man of rape.  I can't find that again.  I'll buy lunch at InZane the first one who can find that again for me.  

 


Now THAT'S funny.....

[f6gal]

f6gal, I owe you a lunch.  

Her FB page was scrubbed just prior to making her accusation against Kavanaugh.  

[Willow]

f6gal, I owe you a lunch.   

Her FB page was scrubbed prior to making accusation against Kavanaugh.

I knew that.  Clever girl.   

[The emperor has no clothes]

f6gal, I owe you a lunch.   

Her FB page was scrubbed prior to making accusation against Kavanaugh.

Connie, how is somebody posting something on whichever social media platform about her, evidence of anything ?

[Chrisj CMA]

Dr Ford is a drama queen.  She came off like a rape victim from last week.  Pitiful.  When asked what part of the event was clearest in her memory she relayed a bizzar story of laughter with some vauge details of the important stuff. That tells me she is forcing some memories to be useful to this situation. In other words she's lying because she thinks her family's ties to the CIA will protect her and she thinks the ends justifies the means.

[f6gal]

f6gal, I owe you a lunch.  

Her FB page was scrubbed prior to making accusation against Kavanaugh.

Connie, how is somebody posting something on whichever social media platform about her, evidence of anything ?

I have no idea if it's true.  I never said it was evidence of anything.  I was simply responding to Willow's request (who says there's no free lunch?).

It is odd, however, that her FB page was scrubbed just prior to making her accusation against Kavanaugh.  Perhaps the FBI ought to ferret out her page before she scrubbed it... if that is even possible.... Serk is that possible?

[Willow]

f6gal, I owe you a lunch.   

That’s your evidence ? That somebody posted on Facebook saying she said that ? 

Your evidence is that someone claims that she was groped by a person?  She doesn't know exactly when or where but it has ruined her life.  She didn't bother mentioning it to anyone for thirty years even though it ruined her life through her attaining advanced degrees and being given plush do nothing prestigious positions with universities.

Incidentally she just happens to be financially committed to causes strongly opposed to the person in question and no one she named will corroborate her story of the alleged event.  She is supported by lots of folks who were not there, know nothing of the supposed event but they believe she's telling the truth because they agree with her politically.

Incidentally, no one posted on Facebook that she posted that.  She posted it a year and a half ago but then removed it.

I'll take my evidence over yours any day.      

[The emperor has no clothes]

f6gal, I owe you a lunch.  

Her FB page was scrubbed prior to making accusation against Kavanaugh.

Connie, how is somebody posting something on whichever social media platform about her, evidence of anything ?

I have no idea if it's true.  I never said it was evidence of anything.  I was simply responding to Willow's request (who says there's no free lunch?).

It is odd, however, that her FB page was scrubbed just prior to making her accusation against Kavanaugh.  Perhaps the FBI ought to ferret out her page before she scrubbed it... if that is even possible.... Serk is that possible?

I think they should also. You are right, you didn’t say it was evidence. Willow did.

[f6gal]

f6gal, I owe you a lunch.  

Her FB page was scrubbed prior to making accusation against Kavanaugh.

Connie, how is somebody posting something on whichever social media platform about her, evidence of anything ?

I have no idea if it's true.  I never said it was evidence of anything.  I was simply responding to Willow's request (who says there's no free lunch?).

It is odd, however, that her FB page was scrubbed just prior to making her accusation against Kavanaugh.  Perhaps the FBI ought to ferret out her page before she scrubbed it... if that is even possible.... Serk is that possible?

Here's another fun fact (I'm sure it's just coincidence).

She first starting talking about the incident in 2012; with her therapist and several friends.  Before that nary a word.  So when Romney was running for president, he proposed Kavanaugh as a potential SCOTUS nominee.  Hmmm, now, what year was that?

[Chrisj CMA]

 Can Ford and Feinstein share a prison cell to save taxpayer dollars?

[f6john]

Someone help me here. Rob thinks there should be evidence for an allegation. What evidence did Ford give for her allegation that Kavanaugh attempted to rape her. Rob, please don’t try to answer this one, your replys are too confusing.

[Rams]

Someone help me here. Rob thinks there should be evidence for an allegation. What evidence did Ford give for her allegation that Kavanaugh attempted to rape her. Rob, please don’t try to answer this one, your replys are too confusing.

John,
That is unlikely to happen.   The majority of responses I have read are asking for someone else to provide evidence, information or proof and are in the form of a querie.

Rams

[Oss]

The defense attorney job #1 is create doubt

But and this is crucial, the demoncratic party now thinks its job is to obfuscate, delay and deny constitutional mandates of advise and consent.  The party of slavery has sunk to a new slimy low and irony of ironies, the good senator from the former lead slave state has risen to the level of statesman in the hearing. Mr Graham bravo sir
Our founding fathers would stand and applaud you

While the woman may not have been lying if she was induced by therapist to come up with the allegation and believes them  
However, after finally getting to listen to the record from Thursday, examining what transcripts I can read, the backstory of the players and the motives of those involved I will go on record that I believe beyond a reasonable doubt that Ford is lying, that she knows she is lying, that she is being encouraged to lie and that she will continue to do so.  She would do well to recant lest she be on the receiving end of more sexual problems in prison. Perjury carries a long sentence and doubtful the SCOTUS would hear her case no matter who is on it in the future. She poisoned her own well.

I hope that is clear enough

[Gavin_Sons]

Rob, please give us some evidence she is telling the truth. There is plenty against her story but none for her story. Even the people she named has no idea what she is talking about. Why do you believe her? Because she is a woman? Because she is a Trump hater? Both?

[MAD6Gun]

Rob, please give us some evidence she is telling the truth. There is plenty against her story but none for her story. Even the people she named has no idea what she is talking about. Why do you believe her? Because she is a woman? Because she is a Trump hater? Both?

 Oh oh oh oh,pick me I can answer. Rob believes her because the dems tell him he should. Any reasonable person can see the holes in her story. Even the two resident VRCC lawyers can see she is lying but Rob still can't see it because of his major case of TDS. This nothing but a stall tactic by the dems to delay the vote plain and simple.

[Willow]

Connie, how is somebody posting something on whichever social media platform about her, evidence of anything ?

I have no idea if it's true.  I never said it was evidence of anything.  I was simply responding to Willow's request (who says there's no free lunch?).

It is odd, however, that her FB page was scrubbed just prior to making her accusation against Kavanaugh.  Perhaps the FBI ought to ferret out her page before she scrubbed it... if that is even possible.... Serk is that possible?

I think they should also. You are right, you didn’t say it was evidence. Willow did.

Meathead, it may be time for you to take a step back.  You are becoming adept at twisting words and quoting falsely.  I did not call it "evidence".  I simply stated that it had been reported.  If she actually did post that, and if it were proven, that would certainly be evidence.  Do I believe it?  Yes.  Has it been proven beyond doubt?  Not to my knowledge.  Does that make it not possible?  No.

Dr. Ford has exactly zero evidence of her claim.  Zero.  Yet you and others jump to believe her despite contradicting claims.  How do you make sense of that?  

[MP]

There are many reasons why this doesn't float but another big one is its beyond the statute of limitations.

It’s my understanding there is no statute of limitations where this supposed accusation happened, Maryland.

A Maryland Dem law maker asked for one.
The police and AG sent him a letter, stating the victim had to request it
Also that the law that was in effect at the time would be law followed.
At that time, the offense would be a misdeameanor. And it had a one year statue of limitations.

[Serk]

At this point, in pursuit of the truth, I propose we waterboard Ford and Feinstein, to find out if Ford made it up, and if Feinstein intentionally timed the release/leak of the letter to cause maximum harm to all involved.

It's only fair.

Edit to add - Once again, satire is more truthy than reality:

https://babylonbee.com/news/senate-to-be-replaced-with-room-full-of-monkeys-throwing-feces

[Willow]

... This nothing but a stall tactic by the dems to delay the vote plain and simple.

You seem to be selling the strategy short.  Yes, it is a stall tactic but it is also leverage for the midterms.  If the Republican senators go past her accusation, even though it has no supporting evidence, they can play it as Republicans are not sensitive to the needs of victimized women.  Even some of our own members insist on referring to her as a sexual assault victim despite it's a claim based solely on her own word.

A portion of the country is solidly committed to the left.  A portion is solidly committed to the right.  It's that small group uncommitted in the middle for which both sides will compete.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

Connie, how is somebody posting something on whichever social media platform about her, evidence of anything ?

I have no idea if it's true.  I never said it was evidence of anything.  I was simply responding to Willow's request (who says there's no free lunch?).

It is odd, however, that her FB page was scrubbed just prior to making her accusation against Kavanaugh.  Perhaps the FBI ought to ferret out her page before she scrubbed it... if that is even possible.... Serk is that possible?

I think they should also. You are right, you didn’t say it was evidence. Willow did.

Meathead, it may be time for you to take a step back.  You are becoming adept at twisting words and quoting falsely.  I did not call it "evidence".  I simply stated that it had been reported.  If she actually did post that, and if it were proven, that would certainly be evidence.  Do I believe it?  Yes.  Has it been proven beyond doubt?  Not to my knowledge.  Does that make it not possible?  No.

Dr. Ford has exactly zero evidence of her claim.  Zero.  Yet you and others jump to believe her despite contradicting claims.  How do you make sense of that?  

You have a pm.

[Robert]

Simple question, I guess needs a pm to answer, since explaining on the board might be embarrassing.

[Jess from VA]

At this point, in pursuit of the truth, I propose we waterboard Ford and Feinstein, to find out if Ford made it up, and if Feinstein intentionally timed the release/leak of the letter to cause maximum harm to all involved.

It's only fair.

Edit to add - Once again, satire is more truthy than reality:

https://babylonbee.com/news/senate-to-be-replaced-with-room-full-of-monkeys-throwing-feces

Hey... I suggested waterboarding days ago.  

Throw in Jeff Flake too, for a bipartisan effort.  I don't know what to ask him, but they'll think of something.

Just offer them a free vacation, then take them to Gitmo.  (If the truth is as we suspect, push them out the door over water on the way back) (If it's not, do it anyway.)  

Senate-to-be-replaced-with-room-full-of-monkeys-throwing-feces.  

That's the funniest thing I've heard all week (and I needed it).  

[Robert]

WHO IS DR BLASEY FORD?

WELL, BESIDES BEING A “PROFESSOR” AT THE OFF BRAND UNIVERSITY, SHE ALSO WORKS AT A MAJOR UNIVERSITY DOWN THE STREET FROM PALO ALTO. SHE JUST SO HAPPENS TO HEAD UP THE CIA UNDERGRADUATE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM AT STANFORD UNIVERSITY.

CHRISTINE BLASEY’S BROTHER, RALPH THE THIRD, USED TO WORK FOR THE INTERNATIONAL LAW FIRM OF BAKER, HOSTETLER. THE FIRM CREATED FUSION GPS, THE COMPANY WHO WROTE THE RUSSIAN “DOSSIER”. THEY LATER ADMITTED IT WAS ONLY A COLLECTION OF FIELD INTERVIEWS.

BAKER HOSTETLER IS LOCATED IN THE SAME BUILDING WHERE THE CIA OPERATES THREE COMPANIES CALLED:
RED COATS INC.
ADMIRAL SECURITY SERVICES AND
DATAWATCH
THEY ARE OPERATED BY RALPH BLASEY II. HE IS THE FATHER OF CHRISTINE AND RALPH III.

CHRISTINE AND RALPH III’S GRANDFATHER WAS NICHOLAS DEAK. FORMER CIA DIRECTOR WILLIAM CASEY ACKNOWLEDGED DEAK’S DECADES OF SERVICE TO THE CIA.

[..]

Rob, please give us some evidence she is telling the truth. There is plenty against her story but none for her story. Even the people she named has no idea what she is talking about. Why do you believe her? Because she is a woman? Because she is a Trump hater? Both?

Has he answered yet?

NO!

WOW!

But expects others to answer him.

Pathetic.

[Serk]

 (If the truth is as we suspect, push them out the door over water on the way back) (If it's not, do it anyway.)  

I believe you first put the idea of waterboarding these slimeball loonies in my noggin, full credit for that idea.

The further we drift from freedom, the more I'm starting to think we need a Pinochet to clear out the cancer.

[..]

An extreme to another is not good.

We middlers need to make our voice heard.

[Serk]

An extreme to another is not good.

We middlers need to make our voice heard.