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« on: April 09, 2019, 01:45:47 PM » |
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Well it happened to me I left my golan petcock on And sure enough when I try to start it I bumped the starter and had the symptom of fuel in the cylinder. After pulling all the plugs I engage the starter with a towel over each side and sure enough one of the plug hole spewed some gasoline out into the towel.
No damage done, no problem since.
My question now is is there anything I should do besides making sure that the pet doc is turned off To prevent this from happening again.
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« Last Edit: April 09, 2019, 01:49:26 PM by ryord »
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WintrSol
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2019, 02:12:21 PM » |
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You got lucky! Also, if the float valves are working well, leaving the fuel valve on should not cause this, so you have more than just one 'failure'. Of course, I never trust the float valves while a bike is just sitting, as they can seal well enough during operation, but still weep a little, while just sitting. Sit long enough, and fuel in the cylinder.
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nogrey
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2019, 07:17:08 PM » |
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There’s a lot of discussion on hydrolock and it’s possible causes. One thing for certain, you should either rebuild or replace your petcock. But there is almost certainly more going on than just your petcock leaking. If you’ve never had your carbs out, now is the time. Replace all the float valves (about $9 ea at “jetsRus.com”. And get new gaskets from redeye@ecrater.com. It’s not as difficult as it looks from the start. You can do it. All these bikes hydrolocking lately makes me think I should start a service. Send your carbs and I’ll send a rebuilt set. Hmmm.....how much would that be worth? |
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2019, 07:22:59 PM » |
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There’s a lot of discussion on hydrolock and it’s possible causes. One thing for certain, you should either rebuild or replace your petcock. But there is almost certainly more going on than just your petcock leaking. If you’ve never had your carbs out, now is the time. Replace all the float valves (about $9 ea at “jetsRus.com”. And get new gaskets from redeye@ecrater.com. It’s not as difficult as it looks from the start. You can do it. All these bikes hydrolocking lately makes me think I should start a service. Send your carbs and I’ll send a rebuilt set. Hmmm.....how much would that be worth? Horse puckey he said he left the petcock on. No need to rebuild a petcock that was left on. |
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2019, 07:29:46 PM » |
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Have you checked your oil if it's high you will need to flush the oil and replace ASAP
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2019, 09:03:42 PM » |
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I'll add my usual 2 bits here - add a Dan-Marc fuel shutoff solenoid and you won't have to be sure to shut the petcock off. If you do this as MANY have, get the bigger 1/4" orifice one. I never shut my Pingel off (or the OEM petcock on Deerslayer), never change it's position unless I need the reserve. Here's a link - http://www.dan-marc.com/79-afc1211412.html |
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2019, 03:33:29 AM » |
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I'll add my usual 2 bits here - add a Dan-Marc fuel shutoff solenoid and you won't have to be sure to shut the petcock off. If you do this as MANY have, get the bigger 1/4" orifice one. I never shut my Pingel off (or the OEM petcock on Deerslayer), never change it's position unless I need the reserve. Here's a link - http://www.dan-marc.com/79-afc1211412.html+1  exactly what I have done, and do. I'm sure there are remote possibilities that the fuel in the rails could leak down and cause a problem. It goes back to Willow's analogy with the straw. As long as the AFC valve (not Dan Marc  ) holds it's seal, no fuel will be able to flow. Personally I think there is more to be concerned with in the float springs, as BonS, Moodyvalk and Leathel have explained. |
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2019, 03:49:43 AM » |
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There’s a lot of discussion on hydrolock and it’s possible causes. One thing for certain, you should either rebuild or replace your petcock. But there is almost certainly more going on than just your petcock leaking. If you’ve never had your carbs out, now is the time. Replace all the float valves (about $9 ea at “jetsRus.com”. And get new gaskets from redeye@ecrater.com. It’s not as difficult as it looks from the start. You can do it. All these bikes hydrolocking lately makes me think I should start a service. Send your carbs and I’ll send a rebuilt set. Hmmm.....how much would that be worth? He already replaced the petcock. I agree carb overhaul is in order. Carefully look at the float / valve of the cylinder that filled with gas |
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2019, 07:39:07 AM » |
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There’s a lot of discussion on hydrolock and it’s possible causes. One thing for certain, you should either rebuild or replace your petcock. But there is almost certainly more going on than just your petcock leaking. If you’ve never had your carbs out, now is the time. Replace all the float valves (about $9 ea at “jetsRus.com”. And get new gaskets from redeye@ecrater.com. It’s not as difficult as it looks from the start. You can do it. All these bikes hydrolocking lately makes me think I should start a service. Send your carbs and I’ll send a rebuilt set. Hmmm.....how much would that be worth? Horse puckey he said he left the petcock on. No need to rebuild a petcock that was left on. I missed the part about it being an aftermarket petcock. No need to throw your horse puckey around. |
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ryord
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2019, 10:44:54 AM » |
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Thanks for the comments, I rebuilt the carbs with a pal in Wichita Ks about 5 years ago. I was wondering what the thinking is on replacing the floats as well as the other parts. Honda wants 30.00 a piece for the floats, are there any aftermarket or crossovers that might work. We did not replace them in the rebuild. This is the first time I have had this problem. I have an inline pingle filter and golan petcock that have both worked great. I usually turn the petcock off about a 1/2 mile from home. This time I forgot. Thanks again. Rick
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ryord
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2019, 03:55:36 PM » |
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What do you guys recommend aftermarket floats and needles if there's any available thanks
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2019, 05:08:53 PM » |
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I used KL float valves that are .5mm longer than stock so that lifted the float levels back to stock heights But you must check the heights before reinstalling the carbs.....or its a high risk of HL again I also installed a AFC shutoff valve at the Tee on the carbs and never turn my manual fuel petcock off now I wish you could get steel floats to fit....the old ones never used to distort I did this video to compare the new OEM float valve to the K&L new float valve, if the float hit the carb body it takes the pressure of the valve OEM https://youtu.be/IwWA9judgc4K&L https://youtu.be/Ou7ewonygOgYes its best to replace the warped floats but with freight to this country you can run the bike for months  |
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