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« on: April 11, 2019, 03:11:43 PM » |
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I have a 97 valk with a sidecar and I have decided to put on a car tyre on the rear rim...the honda dealership is putting on a Goodyear Assurance tyre. Any thoughts on whether this is a good tyre or not.?
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2019, 04:05:09 PM » |
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I have one ready to go on my Valkyrie, so I'm in favor. Which size did you buy?
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2019, 08:33:14 PM » |
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The Assurance Triple Tread was the go to tire of choice, back in 2010, when I got my 1st Valkyrie.
But since then, I think the best tire is now the Auston Taxi Tire. What makes it best is the rounded edges, so any CT with this feature will be good.
The ATT tire was fairly squared, and people didn't like it at slow speeds. But it only takes you about 5-10 min to get used to it, and in about 2-3 months you forget it's even there, you just ride.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2019, 04:08:57 AM » |
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I've had the Goodyear on my valk for years now - love it. Yes, it has a more square profile than you'd expect to work on a bike, but I've never had any issues with low speed handling, maneuvering into parking spaces or scraping the pegs in the corners. It's also quiet and fantastic in the rain.
If it ever wears out, I'd probably look at another one.
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« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2019, 04:21:36 AM » |
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I had a Goodyear Assurance tire for few years. I put about 35,000 KM on before I moved on to a Yokohama Envigor. The Goodyear could have gone another 15,000 km. I prefer the Yokohama. Just make sure you service the splines, driveshaft and pinion cup every year! Don't wait until the GYTT wears out  |
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2019, 05:19:26 AM » |
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I think its a good tire, it is a little square but still handles great. It should work great with the sidecar.
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2019, 08:00:50 AM » |
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I got the 205 60 R16 put on..I'll be riding on it next week when the snow is gone and the roads are bit drier, just hoping there is no issues when i get it up to highway speed...
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2019, 08:03:46 AM » |
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Thanx! for your input
Ride on!
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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2019, 08:30:11 AM » |
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I got the 205 60 R16 put on..I'll be riding on it next week when the snow is gone and the roads are bit drier, just hoping there is no issues when i get it up to highway speed...
With the 60 series, I had a bit of rubbing issue. I had to do the "Nut Cage" mod to stop it. http://lifeisaroad.com/stories/2005/08/24/valkyrieRearFenderNutCageMod.html |
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2019, 08:51:41 AM » |
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Good to know, I'll keep an eye on it....thanx!
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2019, 10:34:25 AM » |
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It was the first darkside tire I tried. Tried it first because there were plenty of users of the GYTT early in the Darkside trials on the Valkyrie (around 1998). On the good side, it was (and maybe still is) top rated by Consumer Reports. For cars of course. On my Valkyrie, I HATED it. Horrible handling compared to a bike tire. In fact I condemned all darkside tires because of it. I tried all pressures in 2# increments from 18 to 42#. Couldn't find one I could stand the handling so I sold it online to another to try it, after about 2k miles, IIRC. The big problem for me was the tire's following ruts esp. at lower speeds. Didn't like the cornering handling either. Did like the softer ride and better stiction. Not to mention expected longevity and lower cost per mile. I wrote a tech article about it on my website at http://www.horseapple.com/Valkyrie/Tech_Tips/The_Darkside_-_Yea_or_Nay/the_darkside_-_yea_or_nay.html I should mention we had a guy in our local group, High Country Cruisers, who ran that tire on his I/S. He was all over the road on every sweeper. I was sure he was gonna kill himself and his wife. He swore it was a great tire but he needed all the help he could get - not a highly talented rider. A local Valkyrie guru finally convinced him to replace it. After that he could actually control his track on the curves. Now having said that, there are others who like it. IMHO, they haven't tried an Austone - but I could be wrong. Secondly, I think it would be a great tire on a trike or a sidehack rig where you don't bank the bike. And I have re-opened my mind to darkside tires, and tried a bunch of them after this failure (for me) of the GYTT. (2 Yoko's, Vredesteins, Michelin that I recall) Which I have documented here before; search my name and "darkside" with the advanced search fn if you want to see that. Or click on the link above. What I conclude is, yes the "darkside" can be a good soln for both 2 and 3 wheel bikes. But you need to carefully pick the tire. Handling is much better if the tire is narrower, and has rounded corners. The Austone does just that, at 175mm wide, and profile close to a bike tire on the roundness. And it's also considerably taller than the OEM tire for the Valk, which drops the rpms and thus ups the mileage considerably. eg., I get 80mph indicated at 3500rpm which gets 34mpg in my non-trailer pulling use. Does make the bike lean harder on the sidestand which I fixed with my "Bigfoot" mod. Now I know there are fans of this tire and kudos to them if they like it. I'm just reporting my findings. Not gonna say it's an opinion because it's true, what I said. Flame suit on, I'm sure some or many will come to the defense of their pet tire. |
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2019, 08:37:50 PM » |
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I took my bike out on the highway and around the city and the new rear tire hasn't done anything to think this was a mistake. In fact with the deeper tread the back tire feels like it is gripping the road better than before but that wasn't a problem in the first place just an observation. I know it is only one day but so far so good and again thanx for all the info, thoughts and opinions that you guys gave me, much appreciated!
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2019, 11:50:27 AM » |
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Goodyear Triple Tred is a great tire. Ran a couple on my Tourer a few years back.
Since you are doing this with a sidecar you shouldn't have the handling issues as a regular bike would. (The issues are minor ones that you get used to quickly. Not bad issues at all. Just different. And only for some.)
The main concern with this, or any other car tire, is rear maintenance. The tire will last for at least 25 thousand miles. Mine went to 33 thousand and still has some life in it. The second one had 30 thousand when I gave the bike to my daughter.
The rear maintenance should be done every 10 -12 thousand miles. Which is usually the life of a typical M/C rear tire.
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MarkT
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2019, 03:39:17 PM » |
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Like I said - the GYTT should be a great tire for the back of a trike (regular or reverse) or a sidehack rig. Long as you don't need to balance / bank the rig. Consumer reports gave it a top rating for cars.
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2019, 03:58:49 PM » |
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One other note about my rear tyre
I was told when I went to pick up my bike that the technicians didn't want to mount the Assurance , I heard this was an issue in some other threads.....the service manager told the techs that this is what the customer wanted and they better do it to keep the customer (me) happy! I was of course, happy to hear this.
My question is this....why don't they want to do it?
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2019, 04:04:26 PM » |
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One other note about my rear tyre
I was told when I went to pick up my bike that the technicians didn't want to mount the Assurance , I heard this was an issue in some other threads.....the service manager told the techs that this is what the customer wanted and they better do it to keep the customer (me) happy! I was of course, happy to hear this.
My question is this....why don't they want to do it?
Some people don't really know about bikes and think it won't work. Even many bike riders feel this way. |
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