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[Rosie]

Is Ride on tire sealer/balancer real runny? Just wondering what kind of mess it would make when you replace tire.

[Chrisj CMA]

The video I saw portrayed it as not runny at all. Supposed to coat the inside of the tire and stay there so when you remove the tire the wheel is clean. No first hand experience 

[Jim in Idaho]

NOT runny at all.  First hand experience.  Works well.  Easy installation.

[Valkorado]

Not runny,  a bit gooey but not slimy like Slime (which isn't worth a damn).   It does stay put inside the tire.   The small bit on the wheel at removal can be wiped off with a damp towel.   I swear by it because it worked for me on a two up trip.   Sealed a puncture,  I could see the spot where it plugged the leak!  Held until I replaced the tire many thousands of miles later.

I don't wanna die on a motorcycle and I prefer to minimize my chances of being stranded roadside.   I also can't carry two spares so it makes sense to me (I carry plugs and a 12v compressor,  but don't trust my plug-ability)!

[Ken aka Oil Burner]

I currently have it in the tires of my Triumph Scrambler, which has spoked wheels with tubes. I was happy to see that it is compatible with tube type tires, since changing a tube on the road is far worse than plugging a tubeless tire, especially when you don't carry the tools to remove the wheels, or tubes for that matter. On a side note, I didn't balance either the front or the rear wheel, and I've had it at freeway speeds with no vibrations noted.

[98valk]

it dries out after 3-4 yrs. so needs a refresh.

[Bighead]

it dries out after 3-4 yrs. so needs a refresh.

That shouldnt be a problem as a set of tires rarely last a season. Even with three bikes.

[Oss]

they have a clearance site sometimes big discount

Also maybe 10 yrs back I got us a vrcc discount code

They may still have it if you contact them.    Last tires I got at americade and out in des moines they put in balance beads    even though I had ride on bottle on the bike

[Rosie]

Thanks for the replies. Ordered a 8oz. bottle says 4oz in front tire. Gonna put in in this week when i mount my new front tire.

[98valk]

Thanks for the replies. Ordered a 8oz. bottle says 4oz in front tire. Gonna put in in this week when i mount my new front tire.

read on their site if u want it to balance.  more has to be used than just for sealing.

[Valkorado]

Thanks for the replies. Ordered a 8oz. bottle says 4oz in front tire. Gonna put in in this week when i mount my new front tire.

read on their site if u want it to balance.  more has to be used than just for sealing.

Yup I go with a bottle in front and two in the car tire.   Still an oz. or so short of what they recommend but it seems to work well for me. Some have used the ATV formula because it's considerably cheaper but their website poo-poos that.

[98valk]

Thanks for the replies. Ordered a 8oz. bottle says 4oz in front tire. Gonna put in in this week when i mount my new front tire.

read on their site if u want it to balance.  more has to be used than just for sealing.

Yup I go with a bottle in front and two in the car tire.   Still an oz. or so short of what they recommend but it seems to work well for me. Some have used the ATV formula because it's considerably cheaper but their website poo-poos that.

I've been using Quad boss. gallon size avail also. https://quadboss.com/tire-wheel/tires/accessories/tire-sealant.
all the same stuff except for the formulas out there for large road construction and OTR tires.  these tire additives have been around since that 1960s. There's mainly one or two companies that make all of it, just different colors, there are MSDS available showing all the same.

[Valkorado]

Thanks for the replies. Ordered a 8oz. bottle says 4oz in front tire. Gonna put in in this week when i mount my new front tire.

read on their site if u want it to balance.  more has to be used than just for sealing.

Yup I go with a bottle in front and two in the car tire.   Still an oz. or so short of what they recommend but it seems to work well for me. Some have used the ATV formula because it's considerably cheaper but their website poo-poos that.

I've been using Quad boss. gallon size avail also. https://quadboss.com/tire-wheel/tires/accessories/tire-sealant.
all the same stuff except for the formulas out there for large road construction and OTR tires.  these tire additives have been around since that 1960s. There's mainly one or two companies that make all of it, just different colors, there are MSDS available showing all the same.

Interesting.   $63 a gallon is cheap in comparison, and a gallon would last a very long time.   I wonder how the shelf life is on the stuff.

[98valk]

Thanks for the replies. Ordered a 8oz. bottle says 4oz in front tire. Gonna put in in this week when i mount my new front tire.

read on their site if u want it to balance.  more has to be used than just for sealing.

Yup I go with a bottle in front and two in the car tire.   Still an oz. or so short of what they recommend but it seems to work well for me. Some have used the ATV formula because it's considerably cheaper but their website poo-poos that.

I've been using Quad boss. gallon size avail also. https://quadboss.com/tire-wheel/tires/accessories/tire-sealant.
all the same stuff except for the formulas out there for large road construction and OTR tires.  these tire additives have been around since that 1960s. There's mainly one or two companies that make all of it, just different colors, there are MSDS available showing all the same.

Interesting.   $63 a gallon is cheap in comparison, and a gallon would last a very long time.   I wonder how the shelf life is on the stuff.

I've had a gallon jug for at least four yrs now. no problems. it dries out in the tires when exposed to air after a four yrs.

[MarkT]

I've been buying the ATV stuff for years.  I compared it to the bike stuff and it's pretty much identical.  The ATV stuff is like $21 for a quart compared to $16 for 8oz of the bike stuff.  That amounts to $2/oz. for bike formula compared to 66¢ /oz. or THREE TIMES as much.  This is because of marketing concerns.  You have to put a lot of it in an ATV balloon tire and they could never get those users to pay what they can ask for the much smaller quantities they can squeeze out of us boomer bikers.  The ATV stuff balances and seals in bike tires just fine.  I usually buy 4 quarts at a time.  Typical usage is like around 11oz in a front tire and around 16 in a back.  But check their charts for exact amount.  It doesn't expire in the bottle.

[Gryphon Rider]

I've been buying the ATV stuff for years.  I compared it to the bike stuff and it's pretty much identical.  The ATV stuff is like $21 for a quart compared to $16 for 8oz of the bike stuff.  That amounts to $2/oz. for bike formula compared to 66¢ /oz. or THREE TIMES as much.  This is because of marketing concerns.  You have to put a lot of it in an ATV balloon tire and they could never get those users to pay what they can ask for the much smaller quantities they can squeeze out of us boomer bikers.  The ATV stuff balances and seals in bike tires just fine.  I usually buy 4 quarts at a time.  Typicall usage is like around 11oz in a front tire and around 16 in a back.  But check their charts for exact amount.  It doesn't expire in the bottle.

I've decided to follow your example of using ATV formula as you've mentioned in a previous thread or two, and have a 32 oz. bottle coming my way for my next tire change.

[Valkorado]

I've been buying the ATV stuff for years.  I compared it to the bike stuff and it's pretty much identical.  The ATV stuff is like $21 for a quart compared to $16 for 8oz of the bike stuff.  That amounts to $2/oz. for bike formula compared to 66¢ /oz. or THREE TIMES as much.  This is because of marketing concerns.  You have to put a lot of it in an ATV balloon tire and they could never get those users to pay what they can ask for the much smaller quantities they can squeeze out of us boomer bikers.  The ATV stuff balances and seals in bike tires just fine.  I usually buy 4 quarts at a time.  Typicall usage is like around 11oz in a front tire and around 16 in a back.  But check their charts for exact amount.  It doesn't expire in the bottle.

I've decided to follow your example of using ATV formula as you've mentioned in a previous thread or two, and have a 32 oz. bottle coming my way for my next tire change.

OK I'm in,  just ordered a quart.

[Rosie]

Update: not runny at all. Also No where on website did I see where more than 4oz. recommended for 150/80R17 size tire. Did say for extreme conditions could add 25% more. Also states all over website that there are different formulations for different applications. Personally ill follow their recommendations.Thanks for input.

[The emperor has no clothes]

For those that use Ride-on, I'm curious the coverage when you remove the tire. The one time I used it, it only covered the inch and a half to 2" down the center of the carcass. It seemed to me it the puncture wasn't very close to the center of the tire, it would have no effect ? It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure I used the recommended amount.

[MarkT]

Update: not runny at all. Also No where on website did I see where more than 4oz. recommended for 150/80R17 size tire. Did say for extreme conditions could add 25% more. Also states all over website that there are different formulations for different applications. Personally ill follow their recommendations.Thanks for input.

I've been using Ride-On in three Valks and a Gold Wing for 15 years or so and their chart used to indicate more was needed than 4oz for the 150/80-17.  They must have refigured it.  I recall a quantity for that tire closer to 11oz.  Maybe that was for more width coverage against punctures.  Certainly still balances with the larger amount, just costs more - again maybe for marketing reasons they revised it.  I certainly don't care what you do or how much you use but the fact is they are using marketing practices to get you to spend more on the bike formula when I have proven for years the ATV works just as well for 1/3 the price and I shared that with you.  They also say it has a shelf life limit (so you better get a new bottle if it's been on the shelf too long).  Really?  I've stored it for years and see no change in it's flowability out of the bottle.  I've also studied marketing and have used such practices for decades in business - am aware they have good business reasons for saying what they do but I question the ethics of statements that may be stretching the truth to boost their bottom line.  Good for you if you swallow their explanation and it makes you feel better.   I'm posting this not for you necessarily but so others aren't misled.

For those that use Ride-on, I'm curious the coverage when you remove the tire. The one time I used it, it only covered the inch and a half to 2" down the center of the carcass. It seemed to me it the puncture wasn't very close to the center of the tire, it would have no effect ? It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure I used the recommended amount.

They indicate the protection from punctures/leaks is for the center 2/3 of the tread area IIRC.  My coverage is a bit wider than 2" with the ~11oz I use for a 130/17-90. Correct it's not complete protection but it's a help.  I consider it a balancing product which it does well and the puncture protection for part of the tire is a bonus.  Incidently in 15 years or so since starting with Ride-On I've never had a flat and have found nails a few times in the tread.  Always in the back tire.  So I'm lucky.
I mount and balance my own tires so I see the coverage inside and also how much easier and better the balancing is with RO than using weights w/o a spin-balancer.  Even with the latter, compared to RO which constantly re-balances; never get out of balance which can happen with one-time weight balancing.

[98valk]

Update: not runny at all. Also No where on website did I see where more than 4oz. recommended for 150/80R17 size tire. Did say for extreme conditions could add 25% more. Also states all over website that there are different formulations for different applications. Personally ill follow their recommendations.Thanks for input.

from one of their pdf files

 Ride-On TPS Motorcycle formula for
 balancing without wheel weights,
 Severe applications, or in tube tires,
 you may use up to 25% more product.

 M150/80*17 10 oz  per their '01 pdf

latest pdf calls for 8 oz.
https://images.ride-on.eu/en_US/dosage-table/motorcycle-dosage-april-2012.pdf