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indybobm
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« on: July 14, 2019, 06:28:49 PM »

I have recently changed from a Windows phone to an Android cell phone. Of course, everything is different now. The problem I am having is with the text size when I am reading posts on VRCC. The text is very, very small. VRCC is the only web site that does this. All of the other sites are ok. Anything I can do to increase text size on VRCC?
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2019, 08:16:23 PM »

Thumb and finger tip on screen in pinch position . . . then expand your pinch to a gap between finger tip and thumb. View should blow up. That's how mine works.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2019, 04:15:53 PM »

Yes, I do that, but it is like having a 3 inch window on a line that is 24 inches wide. S lot of scrolling back and forth


The Windows phone was so much better. Dame it did not survive.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2019, 04:18:24 PM »

If you're using the built in default web browser, try installing Chrome and try it, see if it works any better...

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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2019, 06:51:57 PM »

Actually, it is the cheap LG Phoenix 4 phone using the included Chrome browser.  Version 75.0.3770.101.

I'm finding out other things I do not like about android phones.
My Windows phone would pair with my Blue Tooth Communicator and when I got texts, it would read them to me. It would then ask me if I wanted to reply and then read back my reply before sending it. The android evidently does not do this.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2019, 05:56:16 AM »

I'm finding out other things I do not like about android phones.
My Windows phone would pair with my Blue Tooth Communicator and when I got texts, it would read them to me. It would then ask me if I wanted to reply and then read back my reply before sending it. The android evidently does not do this.

I've read that comment many times.  Windows Phone used a clever method to handle text messages that was light years ahead of Android and iOS.  It muted whatever was playing to announce an incoming message, gave you the option to listen, then let you reply or call the sender.  It did this with any Bluetooth headset or automotive system, and never required the user to touch anything.  To accomplish this it made an internal call to bypass the usual requirement to touch a screen or send button.  Neither Android nor iOs can do anything like this.

I miss my Windows Phone too, though I still move my SIM over and use it now and then.  In comparison, my Android is a clunky mess.  It has the look and feel of a system cobbled together with software from dozens of developers who never spoke with each other about a common theme or user experience.  Yes, it has a zillion apps, and some are quite good, but the vast majority are junk.

Even though I've learned to live with their pathetic OS, I'm still uncomfortable with Google tracking everything I do.  It's kind of chilling to look at the activity logs Google keeps on their servers.  Just type 'My Activity' in the Google search bar to get a glimpse of what they retain about your phone usage.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2019, 06:34:20 AM »

I'm finding out other things I do not like about android phones.
My Windows phone would pair with my Blue Tooth Communicator and when I got texts, it would read them to me. It would then ask me if I wanted to reply and then read back my reply before sending it. The android evidently does not do this.

I've read that comment many times.  Windows Phone used a clever method to handle text messages that was light years ahead of Android and iOS.  It muted whatever was playing to announce an incoming message, gave you the option to listen, then let you reply or call the sender.  It did this with any Bluetooth headset or automotive system, and never required the user to touch anything.  To accomplish this it made an internal call to bypass the usual requirement to touch a screen or send button.  Neither Android nor iOs can do anything like this.

I miss my Windows Phone too, though I still move my SIM over and use it now and then.  In comparison, my Android is a clunky mess.  It has the look and feel of a system cobbled together with software from dozens of developers who never spoke with each other about a common theme or user experience.  Yes, it has a zillion apps, and some are quite good, but the vast majority are junk.

Even though I've learned to live with their pathetic OS, I'm still uncomfortable with Google tracking everything I do.  It's kind of chilling to look at the activity logs Google keeps on their servers.  Just type 'My Activity' in the Google search bar to get a glimpse of what they retain about your phone usage.


PSST - Android WAS put together by lots of developers who may or may not had been talking to each other.... especially with all the different apps. One developer decided he liked doing things a certain way, then someone else would decide another way was "better". Finding the ones you like can take a while (depending the type of app), or you can adapt to each apps's "way of doing things".

Linux shares this same philosophy, as did it's "father" Unix. Mac and Windows, in contrast, are developed in a more tightly controlled corporate environment - although, sometimes it doesn't seem so....

Oh - and depending on the GPS you use - some of the later ones can do the reading of notifications from the phone as well. I know the latest generation automotive Garmins  ( the DriveSmart / DriveLuxe lines) can (must have bluetooth connectivity to phone), maybe the latest Zumos as well.
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2019, 07:31:20 AM »

I have to admit, in all my years around tech this is the very first time I've found anyone say anything remotely nice about Windows Phone...
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2019, 09:25:06 AM »

I have to admit, in all my years around tech this is the very first time I've found anyone say anything remotely nice about Windows Phone...

Have you even owned one?  They really did have some distinct advantages.  The interface was refreshingly different from the typical rows of icons, and its rotating 'live tiles' allowed more information on a single screen than either competing OS.

The native map application was also nice because it seamlessly integrated traffic cams from all state highway departments.  The desktop version of Bing Maps does that too, and I usually use it instead of Google Maps for the camera feature.

The OS had its downsides as well.  There were some annoying bugs and Microsoft usually took forever to address them.  Then there was the 'app gap'.  It wasn't as bad as many thought because the OS handled many functions natively that required an app on other phones.  The gap narrowed as WP's market share increased.  That's when MS then pulled the plug, just like they've done again and again with other promising products.
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2019, 09:35:51 AM »

I have to admit, in all my years around tech this is the very first time I've found anyone say anything remotely nice about Windows Phone...

Have you even owned one? 

Never owend one, had one issued to me as a temporary work phone for a few weeks when my Blackberry died.

I personally found the interface to be almost unusable, but I understand that's a personal preference thing. Have talked with many co-workers who were permanently issued Windows phones and they shared the same view of them as I did, and often had "accidents" just as an excuse to get any different phone issued to them.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2019, 03:59:49 PM »

I believe you can download an app on android phones for texting size screen to be bigger and that makes it a little easier to text having larger letters to push with our bigger hands.  I think there are a few out there to pic from and download, just delete the ones you do not like and use the one larger size app to text and read easier. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2019, 05:29:05 AM »

I have to admit, in all my years around tech this is the very first time I've found anyone say anything remotely nice about Windows Phone...

Have you even owned one? 

Never owend one, had one issued to me as a temporary work phone for a few weeks when my Blackberry died.

I personally found the interface to be almost unusable, but I understand that's a personal preference thing. Have talked with many co-workers who were permanently issued Windows phones and they shared the same view of them as I did, and often had "accidents" just as an excuse to get any different phone issued to them.


Yep, different folks like different interfaces.  Personally, I find the iOS and standard Android interfaces incredibly boring and dated.  Their uniform rows of dull icons remind me of a Mac or Win 3.0 PC from 30 years ago.  At least Android can be customized, while Apple keeps everything on a very tight leash.  The WP interface, with its customizable, animated tiles was refreshingly different, usable, and informative.  But admittedly it was difficult for many to adjust their paradigm of how to interact with a mobile device.  That surely was a factor in the phone's demise.  Change can be difficult.  And sometimes it's overrated:  we're all riding 20 year old motorcycles with drive trains designed in the mid 1980s!

It's too bad Microsoft killed WP just as it was beginning to get decent market share and close the app gap.  But the company has a history of introducing promising products, failing to market them, then giving up after a short run.  The Zune, Band fitness tracker, Kinect, Groove music service, and Windows Phone are just a few examples.  Sounds a little like Honda and their Valkyries!
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2019, 05:52:08 AM »

I don't use my phone constantly.  So I don't notice all these nuances.  And I used to be a sr software engineer!  I was disappointed in the OS when I went to Android from an Apple phone.  But I'm stuck with it 'cause it's from my wife, and free 'cause she works for the hosting telecom.  Not important enough for me to BUY a phone and service.  BTW this phone - completely unreliable as a phone.  So I don't give out the number hardly ever.  Most calls are computer originated spam.  And frankly I don't want to be ALWAYS available.  So only family and a few friends have the number.  I use it mostly for myradar and google and texting. And reading books and keeping Honda manuals and docs like for my custom circuits with me.
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2019, 06:59:15 AM »

And frankly I don't want to be ALWAYS available.

That is why I've never owned any type of cell phone of any kind.  Ever.  I don't even know how to work one.

I didn't have kids to track.  I never needed it for work.  I don't want any unnecessary monthly bills.

The two times I broke (almost) down on a bike, there was no cell service there anyway.

The wife nagged on me to get one, and I was like.... if I'm home or at work, you can get me.  If I'm out riding, you can't get me.  

(Yeah, I'm single now)   cooldude Grin   Cool   And I don't want another wife either.
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2019, 03:45:27 PM »

And frankly I don't want to be ALWAYS available.

That is why I've never owned any type of cell phone of any kind.  Ever.  I don't even know how to work one.

I didn't have kids to track.  I never needed it for work.  I don't want any unnecessary monthly bills.

The two times I broke (almost) down on a bike, there was no cell service there anyway.

The wife nagged on me to get one, and I was like.... if I'm home or at work, you can get me.  If I'm out riding, you can't get me.  

(Yeah, I'm single now)   cooldude Grin   Cool   And I don't want another wife either.

I think a lot of us,  or few of us maybe like me,  could live without a cell phone but tell that to kids nowadays?  neither of my kids age 18/21 could live without a cell phone that is a given for most age 16 thru 25 or so am sure.  I really HATE paying the monthly bill for 4 cell phones around 220 bucks per month - OUCH!!!  if you count that and the darn DISH network TV bill 85 per month and Internet (not too bad at 50 per month for shitty slow 3-4 meg service,  one can go broke in no time flat..... tickedoff

Kids also have netflix which is nice at times but they just jacked up their rate now to over 13 per month was 11 something. 
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2019, 03:38:47 AM »


I love having my phone with me when I'm away from the house. I upgraded
from a flip-phone last year, and got an iphone SE (very small) with a
GREAT camera. I tested out the software I use on the BFGPS on my
phone, so my phone could be a great (but small) offline GPS mapper too...

-Mike
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2019, 05:00:00 AM »

It has some plusses and minuses - I kind of feel I'm without my security blanket without it. There are some useful tools on it, but OTOH I HATE getting spam calls. I'm not constantly on it like the young people.
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2019, 05:33:57 AM »

And frankly I don't want to be ALWAYS available.

That is why I've never owned any type of cell phone of any kind.  Ever.  I don't even know how to work one.

I didn't have kids to track.  I never needed it for work.  I don't want any unnecessary monthly bills.

The two times I broke (almost) down on a bike, there was no cell service there anyway.

The wife nagged on me to get one, and I was like.... if I'm home or at work, you can get me.  If I'm out riding, you can't get me. 

(Yeah, I'm single now)   cooldude Grin   Cool   And I don't want another wife either.
well crap, i was going to send you mine.
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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2019, 05:41:00 AM »

And frankly I don't want to be ALWAYS available.

That is why I've never owned any type of cell phone of any kind.  Ever.  I don't even know how to work one.

I didn't have kids to track.  I never needed it for work.  I don't want any unnecessary monthly bills.

The two times I broke (almost) down on a bike, there was no cell service there anyway.

The wife nagged on me to get one, and I was like.... if I'm home or at work, you can get me.  If I'm out riding, you can't get me.  

(Yeah, I'm single now)   cooldude Grin   Cool   And I don't want another wife either.
well crap, i was going to send you mine.


 2funny 2funny  A phone, or a wife?     2funny 2funny

In either case, please don't.  I don't know how to work either one.    Roll Eyes
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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2019, 07:02:49 AM »

And frankly I don't want to be ALWAYS available.

That is why I've never owned any type of cell phone of any kind.  Ever.  I don't even know how to work one.

I didn't have kids to track.  I never needed it for work.  I don't want any unnecessary monthly bills.

The two times I broke (almost) down on a bike, there was no cell service there anyway.

The wife nagged on me to get one, and I was like.... if I'm home or at work, you can get me.  If I'm out riding, you can't get me.  

(Yeah, I'm single now)   cooldude Grin   Cool   And I don't want another wife either.

Jess, I appreciate where you're coming from.  Even though I've made a living writing software for nearly 40 years, I hate the way technology can steal so much time out of our lives that there's little left for anything else.  This isn't new; TV did the same thing to many people when I was in high school in the 60s.  I have fond memories of when our family moved to a mountain location that could barely receive a single TV channel.  There was so much more time for other stuff.  And we didn't even miss the moon landing.  We just drove into town and watched it with friends.

I love simplicity.  Some people look at my Valkyrie Tourer and comment that it has no fuel gauge or audio system.  I've never missed either.  The engine sounds great by itself, and the lack of all the tech stuff lets me focus on the riding experience.

While it's nice to be able to reach people whenever you want, it's easy to adjust when communication isn't available.  I rode from Colorado to the west coast in 1980.  A friend left a week earlier and we planned to meet in San Francisco and ride through the Pacific Northwest together.  There were no cell phones, so we just agreed to meet at Fisherman's Wharf in front of Joe DiMaggio's restaurant at noon on the last Sunday in May.  We both arrived within 5 minutes of each other, and continued north on one of the most memorable rides of my life.  Technology has done amazing things but we shouldn't let it rule our lives.
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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2019, 10:08:54 AM »

Fuel guage - My PC800 had one, and no reserve setting on a petcock either. First thing I missed on my Phat Gurl....

New Garmin Zumo 396 has a "fuel guage", which is really just a  "how many miles left" warning. I was pessimistic and told it I have a 125 mile range....
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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2019, 10:29:57 AM »

Fuel guage - My PC800 had one, and no reserve setting on a petcock either. First thing I missed on my Phat Gurl....

New Garmin Zumo 396 has a "fuel guage", which is really just a  "how many miles left" warning. I was pessimistic and told it I have a 125 mile range....

If Garmin calls that a 'fuel gauge', then I suppose the trip odometer on my Tourer qualifies as one.  But without a real gauge I'm pessimistic, too.  I remember riding into a powerful headwind in western Kansas several years ago.  The odometer read only 80 miles so I passed a gas station and headed onto a long open stretch of road.  I hit reserve at 82.  Needless to say I turned around and filled up.
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