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« on: August 30, 2019, 10:13:31 AM »

I started the 99 Interstate no problem  Beautiful bike but I cant get it to run in gear

Put it in gear to get out of the garage she dies every time

while in neutral I push the bike out over the speed bump and try to put in gear

WTF the bike went into 1st but there is no resistance  zero on the left lever

I thought maybe there is air in the system so I ordered a set of Japanese Phillips to loosen the 2 screws on the master cylinder as I understand jap phillip is different than sae Once they came in from amazon I tried to loosen them  no joy  With no resistance on the left lever I cant start in gear.

Almost stripped the screws so put on penetrating oil twice.  Still cant get either screw to turn and am close to stripping those screws

WHat to do now?  Order new clutch master cylinder and just swap out?

Really frustrated as between that seat not latching, the battery not holding a charge I have not gotten hardly any rides in the year since I bought this bike and am ready to sell it with the ultimate seat it came with

What would you do just say F it and buy a new left side master cylinder or is there another wayto get those screws off.  And I am hoping it is JUST air in the system.

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2019, 10:24:13 AM »


The screwdriver in your OEM toolset is the right one.

Once those screw heads are munged up, they'll be hard to
get out, but I'd hate to see you have to get a new master cylinder
just for that... plus, new master cylinders for many years of
Valkyrie are no longer available (they'll all work on any Valkyrie
though). And your problem probably isn't in the master cylinder,
though I guess what you're getting at is that you want to
bleed the system.

Wish I was closer. Using the FSM and taking apart the hydraulic
part of the clutch (master cylinder, lines, slave cylinder) would
probably uncover the problem unless it is something like the
rivets coming out of your clutch basket inside the engine...

Driilling the screw heads out might lead to messing up the "tops"
on the master cylinders (it would if I tried it  Smiley ) but chrome tops
without lawyerese stamped on them are still easily available.

-Mike
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2019, 10:54:19 AM »

I would suspect the slave cylinder to be the culprit. But you will need to ge that top off the master cylinder regardless. I think if you drilled them out with a bit that wasn’t too big, you’d be able to get it off. Then you will have to be careful with some vice grips to remove the remaining stubs.
 The slave cylinder rebuild kit and master cylinder rebuild kit would be my route. Also get some stainless Allen head screws instead of the Phillips for replacement. (Ace has them)
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2019, 11:15:36 AM »

Evan; Hold the screwdriver down into the screw. Apply turning pressure while hammering the handle. Hopefully the impact with pressure will get them started. New screws and grease on the threads will prevent this issue again.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2019, 11:25:25 AM »

Copper anti-seize works better than grease.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2019, 02:18:50 PM »

Thanks all

Hope it is just air, cant see why the slave would die like that with no warning.  I have less than 500 miles on the bike.

In any event it will have to wait till after Labor Day as I am heading down to Cape May NJ first thing in the morning and then taking a flight on " Nine O Nine ", a B-17 flown by the Collings Foundation, on Sunday morning with my younger brother if the weather holds!

Its a bucket list item for me and my brother in honor of his 60th birthday.  I am taking my trusty 01 Valk Interstate, that Dragon is tough.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2019, 03:34:00 PM »

Often times you can nudge the screw in the tightening direction just to break it loose. Once it breaks free then loosen it.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2019, 04:54:00 PM »

For the cap.


Used it on mine when I was stripping out the screws to empty the cylinders when wrecking the bike.

As for the bike diing, this is a new to you bike? I'm thinking the kick stand switch. When the bike starts, and you place it in gear with the stand down, it kills the engine.

This was mine on my previous new to me IS. The pin was crushed over flat.

The IS switch has 3 wires, the others 2. But the VT1100T is the same.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2019, 01:39:09 PM »

The slave cylinder rebuild kit and master cylinder rebuild kit would be my route. Also get some stainless Allen head screws instead of the Phillips for replacement. (Ace has them)

I replaced the Reservoir JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) Screws with 4mm X 12mm Chrome Allen Head Screws from ACE Hardware when my 03 was new. Meathead is giving you good advice.   

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2019, 02:31:37 PM »

Thanks all

Hope it is just air, cant see why the slave would die like that with no warning.  I have less than 500 miles on the bike.

In any event it will have to wait till after Labor Day as I am heading down to Cape May NJ first thing in the morning and then taking a flight on " Nine O Nine ", a B-17 flown by the Collings Foundation, on Sunday morning with my younger brother if the weather holds!

Its a bucket list item for me and my brother in honor of his 60th birthday.  I am taking my trusty 01 Valk Interstate, that Dragon is tough.

I hope you get to fire a waist gun.   Grin


PS: I'd have some earplugs in my pocket if I were you.

I wonder if you get a 'chute?  (there's a happy thought)
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2019, 06:33:13 AM »

Jess it wAs Awesome
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2019, 04:46:11 AM »

Just replaced the slave cylinder on mine. Same problem, nothing at the lever. Turned out the slave cylinder was stuck. Started to put a kit in, but just decided on a new OEM slave.

It's easy to get air in the system, too, since the master cylinders sit at an angle (depending on how your have your handlebars set) and it will have a deep end and shallow end of the pool, so to speak. Doesn't take a big loss of fluid to get air.
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2019, 11:02:58 AM »

Just replaced the slave cylinder on mine. Same problem, nothing at the lever. Turned out the slave cylinder was stuck. Started to put a kit in, but just decided on a new OEM slave.

It's easy to get air in the system, too, since the master cylinders sit at an angle (depending on how your have your handlebars set) and it will have a deep end and shallow end of the pool, so to speak. Doesn't take a big loss of fluid to get air.

When working on the clutch or front brake master cylinders work with them in a level position.  Clutch side, turn the bars to the right, loosen the two bolts of the clamp, slide the assembly up to the first curve on the bar, position it to level and tighten the clamp bolts.  This way when your topping off with fluid you will get the max amount in the reservoir that it will hold.
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2019, 12:50:34 PM »

Well I totally buggered up those screws and bought both an easy out and replacement screws as advised
Stan (it was his bike before I bought it last July) came over this afternoon, drilled out the screws and the reservoir was "almost" empty.  Put fresh dot 4 in, no air in system.   Runs great now  Used antisieze on the replacement screws and will look online for chrome allen ones could not find any at any auto parts stores

He fixed that latch so my stock seat can stay in place ( I am too tall for that Ultimate solo seat and should sell it one day)

Then he put back that snazzy alternator cover and rode home on that great goldwing trike he bought to replace the interstate

I took a short test ride and all is well in Ossining



I know he doesnt come on here often but thank you very much Stan

Hope to ride with you next month
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2019, 01:07:50 PM »


Glad it is fixed  cooldude

-Mike
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