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Davemn
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« on: August 30, 2019, 01:15:51 PM »

Last few rides it seemed that the clutch was engaging about 1/4 inch from the grip. Today it got worse.
I took the cover off the reservoir and the fluid was very low so I suspected air in the system. So I bled the clutch and now seems normal. No evidence of fluid anywhere. Where did the fluid go?
53,000 miles. Clutch replaced at 49,000. 98 Standard.
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2019, 05:44:26 PM »

 
Why question if it is currently working correctly.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2019, 05:55:41 PM »

Yes, keep it topped up, and park in the same spot. Maybe you will see drips.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2019, 06:42:40 AM »


Why question if it is currently working correctly.

Because it’s a closed system and I can’t find any leak.
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2019, 07:18:47 AM »

I'm pretty sure it is possible for the slave to leak into the back of the engine and not leak onto the floor. But i have been known to be wrong. At least thats what the wife tells me.
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2019, 02:40:50 PM »

Your clutch was replaced 6K miles ago? That would suggest a complete system bleed and new Dot 4. I guess I’d have to wonder if the reservoir was completely filled? I’d check the master cylinder rubber and make sure it is sealing correctly. Also, try to get the reservoir completely level to fill it to the top of the sight-glass. Since it is working correctly now, I’d just keep an eye on things. Time seems to fly by. I noticed the fluid was looking brown in the sight-glass while riding today. I thought “wow, I just bled this!” Then went back and looked in the records and it has been 3 years. Oh well, I got that fancy bleeder kit at HF and it works great. Guess I need to use it!
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2019, 03:49:49 PM »

Your clutch was replaced 6K miles ago? That would suggest a complete system bleed and new Dot 4. I guess I’d have to wonder if the reservoir was completely filled? I’d check the master cylinder rubber and make sure it is sealing correctly. Also, try to get the reservoir completely level to fill it to the top of the sight-glass. Since it is working correctly now, I’d just keep an eye on things. Time seems to fly by. I noticed the fluid was looking brown in the sight-glass while riding today. I thought “wow, I just bled this!” Then went back and looked in the records and it has been 3 years. Oh well, I got that fancy bleeder kit at HF and it works great. Guess I need to use it!


Yes a new clutch a few thousand miles ago. I don’t recall if a fluid change was done. I rode it today and it worked fine after a bled the system. Weird. I wonder if it can leak fluid inside the motor. I’ll keep an eye on it I guess.
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2019, 05:51:16 PM »

Your clutch was replaced 6K miles ago? That would suggest a complete system bleed and new Dot 4. I guess I’d have to wonder if the reservoir was completely filled? I’d check the master cylinder rubber and make sure it is sealing correctly. Also, try to get the reservoir completely level to fill it to the top of the sight-glass. Since it is working correctly now, I’d just keep an eye on things. Time seems to fly by. I noticed the fluid was looking brown in the sight-glass while riding today. I thought “wow, I just bled this!” Then went back and looked in the records and it has been 3 years. Oh well, I got that fancy bleeder kit at HF and it works great. Guess I need to use it!


Yes a new clutch a few thousand miles ago. I don’t recall if a fluid change was done. I rode it today and it worked fine after a bled the system. Weird. I wonder if it can leak fluid inside the motor. I’ll keep an eye on it I guess.
It would be highly unlikely that the fluid wasn't changed during a clutch replacement. I don't think the slave cylinder can leak into the motor oil. But, I'd have to remove it again and look. I do know that the slave can have leakage and not be so much as to drip off the engine case. Mine had a slight leak and dissolved the paint off the rear case. But, I had never noticed it until I replaced my damper plate. I'd get a good light back there and see if you can see anything. It's also entirely possible that the master cylinder wasn't filled completely to begin with.
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2019, 04:51:11 AM »

Last few rides it seemed that the clutch was engaging about 1/4 inch from the grip. Today it got worse.
I took the cover off the reservoir and the fluid was very low so I suspected air in the system. So I bled the clutch and now seems normal. No evidence of fluid anywhere. Where did the fluid go?
53,000 miles. Clutch replaced at 49,000. 98 Standard.

If the slave cylinder starts sticking, it will progressively inch the lever out further and further. A result of it not returning back into the housing. If on a trip, at some point the clutch will start slipping under power, progressively getting worse until you can't move.

Based on my own experience.
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2019, 11:30:29 AM »

like all hydraulic systems if the pads/clutch plates wear the slave piston goes out further need more fluid to fill the void.....doesn't need to leak to go down, usually enough in the system to keep operational but if it wasn't completely full on clutch replacement it would be enough to suck air if the level is not checked Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2019, 11:39:54 AM »

like all hydraulic systems if the pads/clutch plates wear the slave piston goes out further need more fluid to fill the void.....doesn't need to leak to go down, usually enough in the system to keep operational but if it wasn't completely full on clutch replacement it would be enough to suck air if the level is not checked Smiley

That’s the information I was looking for. Thanks
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