John Schmidt
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« on: October 14, 2019, 06:51:46 AM » |
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My home for the last 25 yrs. was put on the market on 10/4 by my wife's kids. The $420k is underpriced but gives some consideration for needed repairs and updates. It would go for much more if that were not the case. Come in with around $400k, put another $30-40k into it and you have a place that you could flip for well over $100k profit by year end. Plus, it comes with free entertainment....watching the golfers as they stroll past cussing at their inability to hit a little white ball. https://www.zillow.com/homes/1531-Golfside-Dr-Winter-Park,-FL,-32792_rb/46137763_zpid/
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2019, 08:27:10 AM » |
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That was a beautiful home John, I especially loved the big trees out front. It was a raw deal for you but you have the memories which I’m sure you treasure.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2019, 08:54:10 AM » |
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Whatever the price, that looks like a very nice home to live in. Though a pretty big place to maintain.
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2019, 08:54:27 AM » |
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Thats unfortunate and downright terrible. It was learned long ago that no one will try and screw you like family. I'm sad about that.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2019, 10:21:44 AM » |
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Thats unfortunate and downright terrible. It was learned long ago that no one will try and screw you like family. I'm sad about that.
Patrick, you're so right. At Rita's funeral her kids came up and overwhelmed me with "we think the world of you, love you like our own father, etc......" along with all the tears, hugs and such. They were more than a little PO'd when I installed a security system and didn't give them the code while I was traveling for five weeks following the funeral. While still on my trip I learned the will had left it all to them, undeserving as it was. I had lived in that home longer than all three put together, had lived with their mother longer than any one of them, invested tens of thousands of $$ in it as well as in their mother's bank account. Not even a thank you. I finally told them I'm severing all ties with them forever and when one asked why, I said "you're an idiot....think about it." I said no calls, texts, emails....nothing! Going on 82 the last thing I need in my life is three spoiled brats. The two boys were on their 3rd wife by age 50, the daughter was separated and living with a jobless kid for a time. Disgusting! Sorry....just want to put them and the house all behind me. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2019, 10:37:08 AM » |
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Thats unfortunate and downright terrible. It was learned long ago that no one will try and screw you like family. I'm sad about that.
Patrick, you're so right. At Rita's funeral her kids came up and overwhelmed me with "we think the world of you, love you like our own father, etc......" along with all the tears, hugs and such. They were more than a little PO'd when I installed a security system and didn't give them the code while I was traveling for five weeks following the funeral. While still on my trip I learned the will had left it all to them, undeserving as it was. I had lived in that home longer than all three put together, had lived with their mother longer than any one of them, invested tens of thousands of $$ in it as well as in their mother's bank account. Not even a thank you. I finally told them I'm severing all ties with them forever and when one asked why, I said "you're an idiot....think about it." I said no calls, texts, emails....nothing! Going on 82 the last thing I need in my life is three spoiled brats. The two boys were on their 3rd wife by age 50, the daughter was separated and living with a jobless kid for a time. Disgusting! Sorry....just want to put them and the house all behind me.  That really sucks John. That is just plain cold of them. The right thing for them to do in my opinion is at least throw a little cash your way for keeping the house up when it sells. Pure greed.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2019, 12:01:09 PM » |
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Thats unfortunate and downright terrible. It was learned long ago that no one will try and screw you like family. I'm sad about that.
Patrick, you're so right. At Rita's funeral her kids came up and overwhelmed me with "we think the world of you, love you like our own father, etc......" along with all the tears, hugs and such. They were more than a little PO'd when I installed a security system and didn't give them the code while I was traveling for five weeks following the funeral. While still on my trip I learned the will had left it all to them, undeserving as it was. I had lived in that home longer than all three put together, had lived with their mother longer than any one of them, invested tens of thousands of $$ in it as well as in their mother's bank account. Not even a thank you. I finally told them I'm severing all ties with them forever and when one asked why, I said "you're an idiot....think about it." I said no calls, texts, emails....nothing! Going on 82 the last thing I need in my life is three spoiled brats. The two boys were on their 3rd wife by age 50, the daughter was separated and living with a jobless kid for a time. Disgusting! Sorry....just want to put them and the house all behind me.  I know u just want to cut ties, but did u talk to a lawyer. u should still have rights depending state laws, such as this Survivors' Homestead Rights If the inherited home is your current residence, you have additional rights as a surviving widow under state homestead rights. Under homestead rights, no matter how your husband bequeathed the house you have an ownership claim to it. Under homestead rights, you are allowed to live in your deceased husband's house until you remarry or move out of it. Once you move and sell the property, you are entitled to a portion of the house's sale proceeds. https://www.sapling.com/8380857/inheritance-law-missouriI just think in todays world of laws it all shouldn't be different for you.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2019, 01:15:55 PM » |
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John, all of that is a damn shame. If you guys want to see a good looking house, picture that with a Valkyrie out front. And... Winter Park, FL is a deluxe location in the Orlando area. The property is likely worth more than that due to the Winter Park address.
Nancy says hey.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2019, 01:48:40 PM » |
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Well, at least the front porch decking and pool patio area looks pretty good. I paid for that via a swap of parts/labor on a friend's Valk 2-3 yrs. back. He's in construction and has a world of experience, and wanted his Standard upgraded to have OEM bags and I/S trunk, so we traded. He did the new decking on the front and refinished the pool deck and patio, I did the bike. In the end he got the better of the deal but we shook hands on it so I'm OK with the results. I will say my job was easier with less labor, just cost more. His work looked a lot better than mine ever would have if I had to do it.  Yes Pluggy, the place is underpriced except for needed repairs which I'm sure were taken into consideration. A couple places down the street went for more $$ and were smaller. I've often thought it would be kinda fun if I happened to hit the lotto, then go back and buy it, do a major remodel and not let any of them see it again. But, it would still be a very lonely existence. 
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2019, 02:02:03 PM » |
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Well John, it is great to have family around. My daughter (the nuclear engineer) stopped by the house for lunch today. She was on her way to the plant near Raleigh. Refueling, and a brand new lid on the reactor. Could not have had that good time if Nancy and I remained in Florida. A man can miss where he was and like where he is at the same time.
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2019, 02:07:59 PM » |
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You certainly don't need any of these added problems right now. Hope you make out OK.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2019, 02:14:01 PM » |
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John I am sure its sore spot with you and rightfully so.
I just have to wonder how much of each ones share will be eaten up by taxes?
Prayers for you that all is going well .
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2019, 03:17:56 PM » |
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John, you know well what I think about this and after reading above I would pursue it if possible. They did it to you after all. Go for a piece of the pie as it is owed to you. Nothing ventured nothing gained?
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2019, 04:39:44 PM » |
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Been to that beautiful and that garage few times, Shane it had to go down like that with zero appreciation of the money and care you provided their mother, sucks big time but as others indicated you should pursue tour legal rights. The started this.
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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2019, 01:10:42 AM » |
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Sorry....just want to put them and the house all behind me. This. It will keep your memory of Rita pure. I'm sorry for your troubles, Mr Schmidt, your a good man. Better than most, from what I've seen.
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2019, 05:17:00 AM » |
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Sorry....just want to put them and the house all behind me. This. It will keep your memory of Rita pure. I'm sorry for your troubles, Mr Schmidt, your a good man. Better than most, from what I've seen. +1 
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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2019, 05:51:44 AM » |
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Well guys, John handles things in a way that sets an example for the rest of us. Circumstances come along that remind us that there is a legal way of doing things, and a decent way of doing things. Those concepts don't necessarily travel together.
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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2019, 05:55:10 AM » |
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When you love someone you protect them, especially a husband and wife, you are supposed to be, "one". It hurts to hear of these type of things, sorry John, as best as you can let it go. Well guys, John handles things in a way that sets an example for the rest of us. Circumstances come along that remind us that there is a legal way of doing things, and a decent way of doing things. Those concepts don't necessarily travel together.
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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2019, 05:59:45 AM » |
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If your plan is to never see these folks again...then do what you need to do... best case maybe they come to their senses and make you an offer...worst case...you never talk to them again...Best of luck. Just don't let it consume you.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2019, 06:46:57 AM » |
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Well guys, John handles things in a way that sets an example for the rest of us. Circumstances come along that remind us that there is a legal way of doing things, and a decent way of doing things. Those concepts don't necessarily travel together.
Thanks Stu, I couldn't have said it better. I did look into legalities associated with the property and the will and there were a few things I could have done. But....at what cost, both financially and physically/emotionally. Financially it would have drained the bank acct., emtionally/physically....likewise, so I decided to keep what I had and move on. In this case it meant moving to the Green Bay area near my daughter. She and her husband were a huge help in my move up here and I couldn't have done it without their help. I don't particularly like the area and was not my first choice, but she has been a huge help in my medical issues....driving me to/from appts. in a strange city, shopping for me when I'm not up to it, intervening on my behalf with drs.(kinda fun to watch  ). It's been quite an experience. To make sure I had my priorities in proper order, the first week up here she took me to the Packer store and bought me a rather pricey hoodie zip up sweat shirt. It's been fun being around family again. So, once the house is sold and the dust settles I'll be able to put all this mess behind me. It can't happen soon enough....I'm tired!
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2019, 03:45:38 PM » |
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You should have been provided the house until your death. And then the kids could cash in but I guess they couldn't wait.
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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2019, 04:01:53 PM » |
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Well guys, John handles things in a way that sets an example for the rest of us. Circumstances come along that remind us that there is a legal way of doing things, and a decent way of doing things. Those concepts don't necessarily travel together.
Thanks Stu, I couldn't have said it better. I did look into legalities associated with the property and the will and there were a few things I could have done. But....at what cost, both financially and physically/emotionally. Financially it would have drained the bank acct., emtionally/physically....likewise, so I decided to keep what I had and move on. In this case it meant moving to the Green Bay area near my daughter. She and her husband were a huge help in my move up here and I couldn't have done it without their help. I don't particularly like the area and was not my first choice, but she has been a huge help in my medical issues....driving me to/from appts. in a strange city, shopping for me when I'm not up to it, intervening on my behalf with drs.(kinda fun to watch  ). It's been quite an experience. To make sure I had my priorities in proper order, the first week up here she took me to the Packer store and bought me a rather pricey hoodie zip up sweat shirt. It's been fun being around family again. So, once the house is sold and the dust settles I'll be able to put all this mess behind me. It can't happen soon enough....I'm tired! God Bless you John.
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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2019, 04:26:12 PM » |
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I like the openness of the home inside and nice bathtub and more so the pool within an enclosed area, although overlooking the golf course would be out for me.
and here I thought it was bad enough when just 2 nights ago the assessors new assessment of our house (city wide) now assessed at full market value of 155K was around 135K prior.
I cannot believe her kids did that to you after all these years, greedy little _astards! You should at least get 1/4th of that house value so you can have a little spending money on the side...
Reminds me of the time when my grandpa died (grandma died first) and left 90% or so to the youngest kid (my aunt) while the other 10 kids got piddly in the will. It basically ended any relationships with the youngest daughter and fighting galore bickering over 3-4 junker cars worth at the time 2-3 grand at most as well as personal belongings of not much value money wise. My mom being the oldest did not really want anything and was probably the most deserving so living in same town and doing lots of weekly stuff for them, but as you say, not worth it as long as you are happy and can live a comfortable life unlike at the time my other 10 aunts/uncles who are pretty poor overall. Felt so sad when one of my uncles died a few years ago not even having enough money to pay for a casket he knew he was going and had a friend make a pine box for him that when closing the casket did not even close fully.
You are in a better place living now near family that cares and does stuff for you for sure, even if old man winter will be creeping at your place soon enough... maybe take up new hobby of ice fishing since green bay area up into door county has some good fishing during winter.
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« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2019, 04:39:26 PM » |
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Family, the other F word  I have to ask John, did u not know how Rita's will read before her passing? U were her Rock, and u always spoke so highly of Rita? As her caretaker and knowing her failing health why wasn't any of this discussed? Honestly if she fully intended to leave everything to these kids, and not to include u seems odd. I would get an attorney and tie this up so these miscreants have to explain themselves.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2019, 05:44:18 PM » |
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Family, the other F word  I have to ask John, did u not know how Rita's will read before her passing? U were her Rock, and u always spoke so highly of Rita? As her caretaker and knowing her failing health why wasn't any of this discussed? Honestly if she fully intended to leave everything to these kids, and not to include u seems odd. I would get an attorney and tie this up so these miscreants have to explain themselves. Nick, I talked to her numerous times over the years and her answer was always the same; "I want to do something for the kids." She always said I could stay there as long as I wanted, til death if needed. Her kids knew of it, they were told it but soon as the funeral was over it started. I finally decided to just walk away and sever any ties with them. I was at a point where I just didn't have the physical strength to continue(that's changing by the way) or the financial resources to pursue it so took my daughter's offer of helping me move near her. I did talk to an attorney and he would have really put them through the mill, but in the end the money involved would have been substantial. As it is now, where I'm living I have a nice chunk of change left over at the end of the month and after paying for the move, funeral, numerous other expenses over the last 3-4 months I still have $10k in savings and my investment account was never touched. I've been keeping the payments up on the HELOC(home equity line) simply because I want to keep my rather high credit score intact....this being done against legal advice. Once the house is sold that will clear the HELOC and I'll be able to stash even more away in either savings or investment. Not bad for being retired...yeah? (that's Wisconsin talk) 
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« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2019, 05:44:31 PM » |
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It's easy to armchair quarterback John's situation. Sure you could hold over in the home, force them to attempt a legal eviction, contest the will, try to force a settlement (and remain obligated on all of the house financial costs plus legal services during the whole ordeal, which may still not go your way). That is not the kind of thing I would be looking to live through in my golden years. There's fair and right, but there's also practical. Cut bait, keep all your own money and walk away from financial obligation, move on, and start a new life with remaining family with a positive attitude is not exactly a bad plan. Aside from the frozen balls in wintertime, it's a great plan.  It's probably not as bad as Loring AFB ME, so there's that.
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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2019, 08:10:36 PM » |
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It's probably not as bad as Loring AFB ME, so there's that.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jess, you got that right. I not so fondly remember -35 and lower temps, especially out on the flightline. When first checking into the base the indoctrination included some rather gross pics of guys that didn't take the advice to heart. If you tried to relieve yourself on the flightline, you would become queen for a lifetime....not just for a day. Yes, it's going to be a culture shock for me before too long but I have plenty of heavy stuff to wear. One nice thing, I don't have to do snow removal. After I'm done with the treatment I'll reevaluate my location, I may decide to stay and see about renting in Florida for 2-3 months during winter. A year from now....who knows?
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« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2019, 03:30:56 AM » |
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that is what a lot of Wisconsinites do that can afford it is get a winter home in Florida for 4 months..
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« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2019, 05:16:44 PM » |
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It's easy to armchair quarterback John's situation. Sure you could hold over in the home, force them to attempt a legal eviction, contest the will, try to force a settlement (and remain obligated on all of the house financial costs plus legal services during the whole ordeal, which may still not go your way). That is not the kind of thing I would be looking to live through in my golden years. There's fair and right, but there's also practical. Cut bait, keep all your own money and walk away from financial obligation, move on, and start a new life with remaining family with a positive attitude is not exactly a bad plan. Aside from the frozen balls in wintertime, it's a great plan.  It's probably not as bad as Loring AFB ME, so there's that. well said Jess..... well said..... 
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« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2019, 08:44:01 PM » |
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I fully side with Bronx on this one. Something is not right and I also knew Rita and how solid your relationship and devotion to each other was. I cannot see her not discussing something as blatant as this with you.
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