Calboy
|
 |
« on: October 25, 2019, 12:41:46 AM » |
|
I am running the risk of asking a question that I'm sure was asked before. What is my best bet buying aftermarket rear shocks for my 2003 Standard? I'm talking about a shock that is closest to the OEM. Not taller, not shorter, a shock that can be adjusted just like the stock shocks can. I weigh about 245lbs I assume it has to be made by Progressive or so it appears. Looking for very good quality aftermarket shocks since Honda doesn't make them anymore. To be honest I would prefer a pair of brand new OEM shocks, but I doubt that I can find them anywhere. Does anybody have any idea of what I'm talking about?
|
|
« Last Edit: October 25, 2019, 12:59:50 AM by Calboy »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
hubcapsc
Member
    
Posts: 16773
upstate
South Carolina
|
 |
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2019, 04:46:03 AM » |
|
Our (well known) choices are becoming limited. Progressive 444... search on here to find people talking about spring specifications, 13 inch long ones are "OEM size"... I got mine when they were 440, I got heavy duty ones. Someone noted that the only difference between the OEM shocks was the size of the bushings, so if that's true and you can still get one side new OEM, you could make that work. I'd (much) rather have Progressives than OEM... I bet there's other good choices out there, but we (I) don't know them... -Mike "another board change: preview works again  "
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Chrisj CMA
|
 |
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2019, 07:02:32 AM » |
|
I think your best choice is OEM Interstate shocks
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
h13man
Member
    
Posts: 1746
To everything there is an exception.
Indiana NW Central Flatlands
|
 |
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2019, 07:25:54 AM » |
|
OEM regardless your model choice for replacement.
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Gondul
Member
    
Posts: 260
VRCC #408
Central Florida
|
 |
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2019, 07:33:30 AM » |
|
I'm looking at Worx Shocks when I finally pull the trigger to replace mine. Shop is run by the daughter of guy who used to run Works Performance. Website seems to be having issues, but you can likely find them on FB or just send them an email. http://www.worxshocks.com/
|
|
|
Logged
|
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.... John Adams - 1797
Because Thou lovest the Burning-ground, I have made a Burning-ground of my heart That Thou, Dark One, hunter of the Burning-ground, Mayest dance Thy eternal dance.
|
|
|
hubcapsc
Member
    
Posts: 16773
upstate
South Carolina
|
 |
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2019, 07:45:27 AM » |
|
I'm looking at Worx Shocks when I finally pull the trigger to replace mine. Shop is run by the daughter of guy who used to run Works Performance. Website seems to be having issues, but you can likely find them on FB or just send them an email. http://www.worxshocks.com/let us know how the "new" works goes, my 440s have 50 or so K on them... -Mike
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Gondul
Member
    
Posts: 260
VRCC #408
Central Florida
|
 |
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2019, 08:49:30 AM » |
|
I have no idea if they still make shocks for Valkyries (or are even still in business). They were located in Canoga Park, CA. Works Performance Products, Inc.
Works Performance closed a while ago after the owner passed away... his daughter has re-opened Worx Shocks.
|
|
|
Logged
|
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.... John Adams - 1797
Because Thou lovest the Burning-ground, I have made a Burning-ground of my heart That Thou, Dark One, hunter of the Burning-ground, Mayest dance Thy eternal dance.
|
|
|
turtle254
|
 |
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2019, 09:11:28 AM » |
|
Keep us informed on the shocks … I'm interested in the ride height and preload adj separated
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Bob D
|
 |
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2019, 09:44:42 AM » |
|
I don’t have any shock issues yet but I would love to have a center stand. Is that a custom made item?
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
The emperor has no clothes
|
 |
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2019, 09:54:32 AM » |
|
I don’t have any shock issues yet but I would love to have a center stand. Is that a custom made item?
They were made by Rivco. They come up in our classifieds occasionally. You should put a want to buy post in there. (I love my center stand) 
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Bob D
|
 |
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2019, 04:22:26 PM » |
|
Will do, thanks!
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Calboy
|
 |
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2019, 08:21:57 PM » |
|
OEM regardless your model choice for replacement.
The problem is that the oem shocks are no longer avaiable There are some used ones on ebay but they came off bikes with a lot of miles and that's worthless in my book Are the Progressive 444 as good as some people say they are? Would that be my best choice for shocks?
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
hubcapsc
Member
    
Posts: 16773
upstate
South Carolina
|
 |
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2019, 05:53:42 AM » |
|
OEM regardless your model choice for replacement.
The problem is that the oem shocks are no longer avaiable There are some used ones on ebay but they came off bikes with a lot of miles and that's worthless in my book Are the Progressive 444 as good as some people say they are? Would that be my best choice for shocks? 440s are pretty darn good, a big difference from OEMs, I'm sure 444s are plenty good too. "Good" is subjective in a way... the job of "good" performance shocks is to keep your wheel on the ground so that you have traction, and to keep you running straight when you take a big hit. Some people hate "good" shocks since they generally don't make you float down the road like you're in a 1970s Cadillac, rather, they help you "feel" the road. All this talk about shocks on here lately, made me go back an look up some of the lesser known choices we have... I'd like to try a set of these: https://store.suspensionshop.org/honda/gl-1500/1990-1999/shemutw-ho96-gl-1500-cdt-valkyrie-valkyrie-tourer-f6c-96-01-gl-1500-c-d-t-valkyrie-valkyrie-tourer-f6c-yss-shock-emulsion-twin-1-pair.html-Mike
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Dogster
Member
    
Posts: 15
My #1
North Jersey
|
 |
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2019, 08:14:43 AM » |
|
Bought a set of 444's 2 months ago based on recommendation (Thank You!) here on the forum. Have put 3,000 miles on them. A bit pricey, I thought, but they are fantastic! I go about 265# and ride 90% of the time with my wife. Haven't felt the slightest bump compared to the OEMs with 40k. I picked them up from Direct Cycle Parts for $577 http://www.directcycleparts.com/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1&keywords=444-4057c&image.x=2&image.y=13BTW...they were the 444-4057Cs and installed with no mods or extra effort...
|
|
« Last Edit: October 28, 2019, 08:17:51 AM by Dogster »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
rug_burn
|
 |
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2019, 08:35:30 AM » |
|
I got Progressive 421's the generic big bike touring shocks, 13" length- and they're great. I wonder how much difference there is between the various Progressive models. My Showa stock units were no longer adjustable, the adjusting cover part would spin, and the were way too stiff. Plus I like the look of the Progressives.
|
|
|
Logged
|
...insert hip saying here..
|
|
|
Jess from VA
|
 |
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2019, 01:47:57 PM » |
|
Do you mean Progressive 412's?
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
turtle254
|
 |
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2019, 03:06:48 PM » |
|
what shocks have both ride height and preload as separate adjustments?
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Kaahn
|
 |
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2019, 06:08:29 PM » |
|
If you're interested in lowering your bike I have a brand new set of 430s, I'll sell cheap If you want the best the 444's are awesome
|
|
|
Logged
|
Garage: 1973 Honda C70 1999 Honda Magna 1997 Honda Valkyrie 1995 Honda Goldwing
|
|
|
Bagger John - #3785
|
 |
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2019, 08:43:26 AM » |
|
The problem is that the oem shocks are no longer available
True for the Standard/Tourer. You can still get a pair of left-side Interstate shocks and swap the hardware on the one you'll run on the right side with the stuff on the shock you take off of your bike.
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
pokrovsky
|
 |
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2019, 08:51:35 AM » |
|
No you cannot. I tried from 2 or 3 sources and every order was eventually cancelled by the supplier quoting Honda does not have an ETA for these parts anymore
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
turtle254
|
 |
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2019, 09:11:36 AM » |
|
I guess know one knows what shocks have both ride height and preload as separate adjustments? Almost all just use preload to change ride height. A separate height adj is a plus, which Works shocks had.
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Bagger John - #3785
|
 |
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2019, 01:54:01 PM » |
|
No you cannot. I tried from 2 or 3 sources and every order was eventually cancelled by the supplier quoting Honda does not have an ETA for these parts anymore
That's interesting. Still showing in stock at a couple of places.
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
MarkT
Member
    
Posts: 5196
VRCC #437 "Form follows Function"
Colorado Front Range - elevation 2.005 km
|
 |
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2019, 02:31:33 PM » |
|
I guess know one knows what shocks have both ride height and preload as separate adjustments? Almost all just use preload to change ride height. A separate height adj is a plus, which Works shocks had.
Height is not an adjustment on Progressive shocks. You buy the height you want. They have several offered.
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Bret SD
Member
    
Posts: 4306
***
San Diego, Ca.
|
 |
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2019, 07:11:18 PM » |
|
Does anybody know of a pre-load spanner wrench that works on our Valks and doesn't cost too much? Haven't had much luck searching.
My bike doesn't have one.. riding 2 up today I could've used a stronger pre-load setting. Hitting whoops in the road at 85 with spongy feeling shocks is a non-starter. I've heard of people using a large channel lock plyers and a piece of rubber to protect the chrome.
The wrench would be better.
Bret
|
|
|
Logged
|
Bret
02 Standard -- Blue & White 82 Aspencade -- Red “No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.” Socrates
|
|
|
|
Bret SD
Member
    
Posts: 4306
***
San Diego, Ca.
|
 |
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2019, 07:58:42 PM » |
|
Yes!
Thank you sir!
|
|
|
Logged
|
Bret
02 Standard -- Blue & White 82 Aspencade -- Red “No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.” Socrates
|
|
|
RonW
|
 |
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2019, 08:19:00 PM » |
|
I don’t have any shock issues yet but I would love to have a center stand. Is that a custom made item?
I posted this version a few years ago, but there wasn't a dollar of interest buying them. Perhaps, Jersey would be able to produce some.  
|
|
« Last Edit: November 11, 2019, 08:24:56 PM by RonW »
|
Logged
|
2000 Valkyrie Tourer
|
|
|
luftkoph
|
 |
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2019, 06:53:48 PM » |
|
suspension on this bike is mediocre at best, I plan on Ikon 7614, or Wilbers type 630
Not sure what I'm going to do with the front, maybe Traxxion
|
|
|
Logged
|
Some day never comes
|
|
|
|