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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2019, 06:49:48 AM » |
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We've reached the bizarro world where hard core feminists are defending a man's right to beat the snot out of a woman as long as he pretends to be a woman.  Soon there will no longer be men's and women's sports categories, it will only be men's and co-ed... 
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2019, 07:26:46 AM » |
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Scientific research indicates male athletes retain competitive advantages over female athletes, even after suppressing testosterone.
You don't say.
But don't get caught doping with the wrong dope.
I still remember in 9th grade being beat in the track and field 100 and 220 by one guy in one meet (by a lean at the tape both times), my only non-1st places of the year. He had a full beard, and looked 20. I asked him if he had been held back in school a few years, and all I got was a (guilty) dirty look. And I though that was unfair.
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2019, 05:19:42 AM » |
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I guess it’s too much to expect. Common sense. If we have to have transgenders. Common sense says, you cross that line you are not eligible for sports at any serious level. Be all you can be if that floats your boat but stay off the playing field you have disqualified yourself.
Funny how you rarely if ever hear of a woman that changed to a male fighting to compete in men’s sports
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2019, 09:20:23 AM » |
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I look at it this way. Woman have gotten what they've asked for. And it has come around to bite them in the back side. Years ago I remember the feminists screaming about letting girls in the Boy Scouts and the screaming that girls should be allowed to play football and other sports with the boys. Boy were not allowed to be boys anymore. Feminism has made some into sissies. So i think its funny that now they are screaming its unfair. Its just sad that very few boys nowadays that have grown up with pissed off single mothers that vowed and declared they didn't need a man except for reaching into his wallet via the government grow up to be actual men anymore.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2019, 07:05:07 AM » |
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The victims here are the biiologically female competitors. They are losing spots at local and state championships which can turn into scholarships and even promotional contracts. These biological female compeitors didn't sign up for this, they shouldn't suffer consequences because of it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2019, 12:11:32 PM » |
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I guess it’s too much to expect. Common sense. If we have to have transgenders. Common sense says, you cross that line you are not eligible for sports at any serious level. Be all you can be if that floats your boat but stay off the playing field you have disqualified yourself.
Funny how you rarely if ever hear of a woman that changed to a male fighting to compete in men’s sports
I have no problem with them competing in non-contact sports, as long as their "win" is not recorded or recognized as such by whatever athletic association .
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2019, 05:05:41 PM » |
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The victims here are the biiologically female competitors. They are losing spots at local and state championships which can turn into scholarships and even promotional contracts. These biological female compeitors didn't sign up for this, they shouldn't suffer consequences because of it.
am sure is true. I have no problem with them competing as females, but as said not recognized as the rest for placement/records, etc. My kid is a pretty good powerlifter competing at state and nationals in past year now into college level and he agrees is not fair for the true females to get whooped by a real man. Although, after seeing some high school females lifting weights, they scare me can whip my butt or pretty close to it... 
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2019, 07:45:54 PM » |
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For decades, or longer, women's rights groups have been screaming for "EQUALITY". Perhaps they should have worded it as "FAIR TREATMENT" instead. The result would be more of what it should be, but equality requires that men and women are treated 100% the same. Here's your result. Be careful what you wish for, because you might just get it.
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2019, 08:22:41 PM » |
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Critics are scrutinizing mixed martial arts (MMA) competitor Fallon Fox, after the transgender fighter gave her opponent a concussion and broke her eye socket. Fox defeated her opponent, Tamikka Brents, by TKO at 2:17 of the first round of their match. Brent’s eye injury resulted in a damaged orbital bone that required seven staples. In a post-fight interview this week, Brents told Whoa TV, “I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life.” “I’ve fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can’t answer whether it’s because she was born a man or not, because I’m not a doctor,” she stated. “I can only say, I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life, and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right. ” Fox’s “grip was different,” Brents added. “I could usually move around in the clinch against…females but couldn’t move at all in Fox’s clinch.” A video (below) of the fight shows Fox throwing several powerful knees to the face and torso of Brents at the start of the match, who pulled guard to protect herself. Then, Brents turns to avoid damage, where she then took about 45 seconds of elbow and fist strikes before the fight was stopped by the referee. https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/transgender-mma-fighter-destroys-female-opponent/https://www.wnd.com/2017/03/female-athletes-crushed-by-women-who-were-once-men/big list on men competing as woman. the powerlifter completely looks like man.
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2019, 08:24:52 PM » |
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my plan is to identify as a bicyclist on my motorcycle and enter the tour de france next yr.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2019, 04:31:54 AM » |
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 my plan is to identify as a bicyclist on my motorcycle and enter the tour de france next yr.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2019, 07:02:55 AM » |
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For decades, or longer, women's rights groups have been screaming for "EQUALITY". Perhaps they should have worded it as "FAIR TREATMENT" instead. The result would be more of what it should be, but equality requires that men and women are treated 100% the same. Here's your result. Be careful what you wish for, because you might just get it.
The female soccer players were yelling for equality in pay. Yup, they got a few million people to watch them play, while the men get a billion. Equality, my A$$ ! They do have some kind of equality in pay in tennis. But the women don't have to play as much. Women play best of 3 while the men play best of 5, so not really equal, the women get paid more per match having to play less games.
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2019, 07:11:23 AM » |
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I guess it's time for us to acknowledge that the difference between a man and a woman is more than just a penis or a vagina. You are what you are born to be. A man can no more become a woman by a few surgical and hormonal changes than he could become a chimpanzee by implanting thicker hair on his skin.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2019, 07:25:45 AM » |
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Instead of sanity, we're approaching the point where if a man chooses to not have sex with a "woman" because "she" has a penis, that's a hate crime..... https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10162480/police-transgender-woman-investigate-porn/
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2019, 07:56:20 AM » |
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IMO - the way the MMA ought to determine male or female should be based on their genes - XX = female, XY = male - no matter how they claim to be or how they dress, etc. Other athletics as well.
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2019, 08:38:30 AM » |
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IMO - the way the MMA ought to determine male or female should be based on their genes - XX = female, XY = male - no matter how they claim to be or how they dress, etc. Other athletics as well.
[/i] Isn't that what the Olympics do, or used to do? Back a few decades, I seem to recall some East German and Russian women power lifting Ford F150s and such being disqualified from competition. From a purely fair and objective (and non politically correct) point of view, I see little difference between someone doping their way to victory, or some guy claiming girlhood (with or without surgery, hormones, yada) beating out real girls. I like the idea proposed above; let them compete with girls if they have to, but allow them no awards, medals, or records, or MONEY. Perhaps that would put an end to such foolishness.
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2019, 11:53:58 AM » |
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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2019, 12:25:32 PM » |
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Solution is pretty easy.
Sports for those born male. Sports for those born female. Sports for Open class which would include transgenders.
Seems fair to me.
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