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Author Topic: ANY luck finding Heated 12v Bibs or Overalls at a good $$$ ??  (Read 1659 times)
Jersey
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« on: November 04, 2019, 07:10:28 AM »

I'm an all year rider here in the DC area.  Have done well over the years, but getting tired of changing in and out of liners under my office clothes.  I'm having trouble finding a decent pair of 12v overalls or bibs.  Seems like either they're way overpriced or well, don't exist!

Would have figured someone would have made something decent that's reasonably priced.  Has anyone found anything that has worked down to the 0F range?

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Jersey
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2019, 07:36:13 AM »

I made my own.  cooldude I could send you some 28awg wire to make your own. Super easy.
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Jersey
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2019, 07:38:49 AM »

I made my own.  cooldude I could send you some 28awg wire to make your own. Super easy.

Appreciate that!  I'm looking at the carbon fiber tape.  What do you think?  https://www.carbonheater.us/
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2019, 10:37:05 AM »

Look into snowmobile suits.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2019, 11:12:12 AM »

Look into snowmobile suits.

That's what I did when I thought I could survive riding to DC every day (or most days).

I got a big baggy one (from Cabelas) to fit over my suit clothes, and room for more gear underneath if necessary.  This way I didn't have to carry dress clothes with me, or bring extra to leave in the office.  Just had to lose the boots for some shoes (left at work).

It looked terrible, but worked.  My mistake was thinking I could ride into DC every day without getting killed.  I quit doing it, so I lived.   Grin

The only problem with coverall-snowmobile suits is they tend to ride up and make you a soprano from time to time.

I didn't find a one piece suit.
https://www.cabelas.com/browse.cmd?categoryId=734095080&CQ_search=snowmobile+suit&CQ_zstype=REG

They have this. https://www.cabelas.com/product/Dickies-Mens-Premium-Insulated-Coveralls/1272757.uts?slotId=4
 
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2019, 08:34:10 AM »

Shell out the bucks for an Aerostitch or similar riding suit with heating elements built in. These are made for motorcycling use (bend in all the right places) and have built-in armor to boot. They're also made to cover your regular street/office clothes and allow easy ingress/egress.

My current very-cold-weather outfit consists of a bunch of upper-body layers including a FirstGear heated jacket liner, Gerbing heated gloves and a thick Fieldsheer armored leather jacket. Lower body insulation consists of a set of heavy leather pants or chaps plus heated pant liners if needed and heated boot liners.

Topping it all off is a 2008 Concours 14 with a +7.5" California Scientific shield, Baker Air Wings and heat controllers for the clothing - plus a hookup for (an eventual) heated seat. I've ridden this setup in 4 degree ambient temps for many miles at (redacted) speed and didn't get cold.

If I needed to go long (cross-state or cross country) distances on the bike in winter, I'd jump on a heated riding suit in a heartbeat.
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2019, 06:35:00 PM »

I have had luck in the heated jacket liner (tourmaster) and gloves under my ancient
Killamanjaro jacket  The gloves are tight - wish I could stretch them out somehow

Been out in single digits no issues but the tires dont like it under 20 degrees. They are like rocks.
 Also the killimanjaro is pretty waterproof  The problem though is at that temp also we have icy roads   Shocked Shocked  especially in the mountains so not often to go out then

Looking at heated soles but for now use the toe warmers cheap and one on top and one below the toes is good for a long day ride on the Valk with my feet on the highway pegs

Chaps over the draggin jeans seems to work fine for me.  Balacava under the helmet is a must

Look forward to reading what you settle on...
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2019, 05:55:59 AM »

I made my own.  cooldude I could send you some 28awg wire to make your own. Super easy.

You have to use nichrome wire or it gets brittle and breaks.  I wired 2 jackets and discovered this after they broke.  I used really high grade, high conducter count, teflon coated 28ga wire.  I have a lot left as I expected to do this much more, until I found out it's the wrong wire.  See https://www.alloywire.com/electrical-resistance-wire-hot-cutting-wire/

More info here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heating_element

Got tired of fooling with it and just bought WarmNSafe products.  Small business but great products.

https://www.warmnsafe.com/

I also wired my Kubota to power the gear.  Really nice to plow snow out in the cold, all warm N Safe!

BTW you need a dual controller as the gloves need different heat than the jacket.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2019, 10:31:16 AM »

Road 300 miles yesterday Nov 5 in 28 degree temperatures using my full leathers and Warm & Safe  jacket and pant liners. Both jacket and pant liners set at half way setting, felt like toast. This is the same amount of layers that I wear year round, base layer and abrasion protection layer.  This allows me to have the same freedom of mobility and stay warm no matter what the temperature, these are both important to me for proper control of the motorcycle.

So in your quest for an outer layer to wear over other layers, take the amount of restriction along with convenience into consideration.

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DGS65
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2019, 04:08:04 PM »

Looking at the pricing of this gear I think it would be cheaper to hire an Uber then then buy headed gear to get somewhere in the cold!
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hal47
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2019, 04:34:11 PM »

Just bought a new gerbing-Glide liner,really made cheap when compared to my old gerbing. Not what I expected coming from gerbing.
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2019, 07:21:47 PM »

I made my own.  cooldude I could send you some 28awg wire to make your own. Super easy.

You have to use nichrome wire or it gets brittle and breaks.

8 years and still going strong   cooldude
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2019, 04:07:17 PM »

Maybe it matters how much it's used and how hot.  Mine got opens in the circuit.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2019, 05:42:39 PM »

I made my own.  cooldude I could send you some 28awg wire to make your own. Super easy.

You have to use nichrome wire or it gets brittle and breaks.  I wired 2 jackets and discovered this after they broke.  I used really high grade, high conducter count, teflon coated 28ga wire.  I have a lot left as I expected to do this much more, until I found out it's the wrong wire.  See https://www.alloywire.com/electrical-resistance-wire-hot-cutting-wire/

More info here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heating_element

Got tired of fooling with it and just bought WarmNSafe products.  Small business but great products.

https://www.warmnsafe.com/

I also wired my Kubota to power the gear.  Really nice to plow snow out in the cold, all warm N Safe!

BTW you need a dual controller as the gloves need different heat than the jacket.

Weird coincidence. Two days agi I went to Warmnsafe's site to look for bags to put my britches and socks in. I see they now have a heated shirt that you wear like a t-shirt. No more bundling jackets!

Then I left work at midnite last night, my jacket and gloves are not getting warm. Unhappy....

I'm getting voltage at the plug and the controller lights up as it should. Time to ring out the jacket wiring.....
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2019, 05:54:04 PM »

I seldom need heat here, but sometimes it would be nice. So, I thought about getting some carbon fiber tape and making a vest. The tape was going to run about $30. Then I found some cheap Chinese vests for next to nothing. Probably a mistake, but I just ordered one. It’s designed to run off a lithium battery pack with a USB port. But I see no reason I can’t hook it up to the usb charger I have wired up on the bike.

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/4000182336083.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&spm=a2g0n.payresult.0.0.4318rKPvrKPvOJ&pvid=bb6e199c-ec3c-4418-80a0-58694eeec7b9&_t=gps-id:pay_success,scm-url:1007.13409.84631.0,pvid:bb6e199c-ec3c-4418-80a0-58694eeec7b9&aff_platform=msite&gps-id=pay_success&scm=1007.13409.84631.0&scm-url=1007.13409.84631.0&scm_id=1007.13409.84631.0
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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2019, 07:50:37 AM »

I seldom need heat here, but sometimes it would be nice. So, I thought about getting some carbon fiber tape and making a vest. The tape was going to run about $30. Then I found some cheap Chinese vests for next to nothing. Probably a mistake, but I just ordered one. It’s designed to run off a lithium battery pack with a USB port. But I see no reason I can’t hook it up to the usb charger I have wired up on the bike.

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/4000182336083.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&spm=a2g0n.payresult.0.0.4318rKPvrKPvOJ&pvid=bb6e199c-ec3c-4418-80a0-58694eeec7b9&_t=gps-id:pay_success,scm-url:1007.13409.84631.0,pvid:bb6e199c-ec3c-4418-80a0-58694eeec7b9&aff_platform=msite&gps-id=pay_success&scm=1007.13409.84631.0&scm-url=1007.13409.84631.0&scm_id=1007.13409.84631.0
Too bad they don't give proper specs for a $20 vest; it would be nice to know the wattage.  Their intent seems to be to charge the battery with the USB port when the vest is turned off.  It may be the case that the vest will heat for X hours using the battery, discharging it at, say, 4.6 Amps, but it requires 2X hours to charge it at 2.3A.  This means that your USB charger won't keep up with the rate of discharge.  If you only use it for X or 1.5X hours at a time, you should be good.
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