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98valk
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« on: December 01, 2019, 02:25:00 PM »

if it destroys roads/bridges and vehicles why use it?

In most states, brine is a mix of rock salt (sodium chloride) and magnesium chloride, dissolved in water so they can be sprayed on the road. “That’s a very important point, because magnesium chloride is much more corrosive than sodium chloride, the rock salt,” said Bob Baboian, an auto industry consultant and a fellow at the National Association of Corrosion Engineers.

Car rust and corrosion are caused by acid created when a salt is dissolved by the moisture in the air. Rock salt remains a crystal until the humidity reaches 70 percent, which doesn’t happen much during the winter. But magnesium chloride dissolves when there is only about 20 to 30 percent humidity. “Which means that your vehicle, if magnesium chloride is sprayed on it, is wet constantly,” Baboian said. The acid stays on your car and slowly eats away at the paint and metal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/worse-than-salt-brine-sprayed-on-roads-will-munch-your-car-to-pieces/2015/02/22/b89294e6-b949-11e4-aa05-1ce812b3fdd2_story.html
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2019, 03:39:36 PM »

They probably get a great deal on it from the car companies.

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cookiedough
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2019, 04:04:27 PM »

WI is thinking about using the waste from all the cheese making facilities around me.  Am pretty sure there are at least 8 cheese factories in a 30 mile radius of me in southern WI.  That way when following a plow truck spraying cheese brine on the road, our cars inside can smell like cheese curds.   2funny

ONLY makes sense to use more sand as well although that may or may not be cheaper, not sure, than this rusty crap pellets they splatter all over the roads.    Not sure fine sand will put rock chips in my windshield as this salt brine chunks does now.  IN 4 drivers in our family,  we usually get 1 or 2 chips in our windshields per 4 months of winter and is NOT from following too closely but more like when oncoming snow plow trucks spread that crap coming at me, the center rotating disc in the middle of the road puts on the most and some of that comes up and hits my windshield nearly EVERY single time I see a snow plow truck coming my way on the rural hwy. roads.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2019, 07:39:22 AM »

     When I still lived in Illinois I drove a tanker and went up into Michigan (Midland) and loaded salt water and knew where the treatment crew of our operation was located. The treatment crew basically took sand and thru a mixer they combined the sand with salt water. We did a Lot of work on the Ohio and Indiana toll roads. In the summer we treated a Lot of dirt and gravel roads with that similar salt water for dust control.   While I lived in Illinois I bought a Brand New Dodge D200-3/4 ton pickup in white. In less then a year and a half it was showing the ravages of salt-even though I washed it at least twice a month in the winter. Good truck cancered out Long Before her time. Then body shops in that area did about as much money repairing rust damage as they did doing accident repair.  Lips Sealed  I believe i may have this next statement correct and here in Missouri they use a beet juice concoction that is Vry Hard on the wheels of my Phatt Ghurl. And whatever it is leaves a white coating that looks very much like salt residue. And you Thought plastic front fenders were for weight savings!  2funny RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2019, 07:24:40 PM »

     When I still lived in Illinois I drove a tanker and went up into Michigan (Midland) and loaded salt water and knew where the treatment crew of our operation was located. The treatment crew basically took sand and thru a mixer they combined the sand with salt water. We did a Lot of work on the Ohio and Indiana toll roads. In the summer we treated a Lot of dirt and gravel roads with that similar salt water for dust control.   While I lived in Illinois I bought a Brand New Dodge D200-3/4 ton pickup in white. In less then a year and a half it was showing the ravages of salt-even though I washed it at least twice a month in the winter. Good truck cancered out Long Before her time. Then body shops in that area did about as much money repairing rust damage as they did doing accident repair.  Lips Sealed  I believe i may have this next statement correct and here in Missouri they use a beet juice concoction that is Vry Hard on the wheels of my Phatt Ghurl. And whatever it is leaves a white coating that looks very much like salt residue. And you Thought plastic front fenders were for weight savings!  2funny RIDE SAFE.

tons more plastic on cars now than in the 80s that is for sure.  at least plastic does not rust right?  I like that Tesla truck made out of stainless steel.  Even Ford f150 has aluminum sheet metal in spots not going to rust. 
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2019, 07:29:16 AM »

     When I still lived in Illinois I drove a tanker and went up into Michigan (Midland) and loaded salt water and knew where the treatment crew of our operation was located. The treatment crew basically took sand and thru a mixer they combined the sand with salt water. We did a Lot of work on the Ohio and Indiana toll roads. In the summer we treated a Lot of dirt and gravel roads with that similar salt water for dust control.   While I lived in Illinois I bought a Brand New Dodge D200-3/4 ton pickup in white. In less then a year and a half it was showing the ravages of salt-even though I washed it at least twice a month in the winter. Good truck cancered out Long Before her time. Then body shops in that area did about as much money repairing rust damage as they did doing accident repair.  Lips Sealed  I believe i may have this next statement correct and here in Missouri they use a beet juice concoction that is Vry Hard on the wheels of my Phatt Ghurl. And whatever it is leaves a white coating that looks very much like salt residue. And you Thought plastic front fenders were for weight savings!  2funny RIDE SAFE.

tons more plastic on cars now than in the 80s that is for sure.  at least plastic does not rust right?  I like that Tesla truck made out of stainless steel.  Even Ford f150 has aluminum sheet metal in spots not going to rust. 

Aluminum doesn't rust, but it will corrode like a mofo, depending on the alloy.  Half of aircraft structural inspections are for corrosion.

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