Trump to Pelosi blistering letter Dems are 'declaring open war on America

[Robert]

 WOW just WOW, now that is sticking up for America. Thank you Trump. 

I have never heard of anyone doing anything like this before.

Excerpts and link to letter below.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-pelosi-letter-impeachment-democrats

President Trump, in a blistering, no-holds-barred six-page letter Tuesday to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., lambasted the Democrats' impeachment inquiry as an "open war on American Democracy," writing that she has violated her oath of office and "cheapened the importance of the very ugly word, impeachment!"

"Everyone, you included, knows what is really happening," Trump said, just a day before House Democrats were expected to vote to impeach him. "Your chosen candidate lost the election in 2016, in an Electoral College landslide (306-227), and you and your party have never recovered from this defeat. So you have spent three straight years attempting to overturn the will of the American people and nullify their votes. You view democracy as your enemy!"

He went on: "You are the ones interfering in America's elections. You are the ones subverting America's Democracy. You are the ones Obstructing Justice. You are the ones bringing pain and suffering to our Republic for your own selfish personal, political, and partisan gain."

[baldo]

Looks to me like someone is starting to panic, just a little bit......

[Serk]

I haven't seen the Democrats this worked up since the Republicans freed the slaves...

[Robert]

Baldo, An interesting thought, but just like the impeachment it has no basis in fact.

[Disco]

Looks to me like someone is starting to panic, just a little bit......

 

Yes, but not the person to whom you are referring.   

[Willow]

Looks to me like someone is starting to panic, just a little bit......

LOL!  Seems you've been a bit cross-eyed before.  Three years ago comes to mind.  

There is no impeachable offense.  There is no hope of a Senate conviction.  There is no chance of removing the duly elected Chief Executive.  What would President Trump have to panic about?

[Bighead]

Looks to me like someone is starting to panic, just a little bit......

Looking in the mirror are you?

[Jess from VA]

I haven't seen the Democrats this worked up since the Republicans freed the slaves...

 

And the President's words are not panic.   They are pure and simple truth.

And it's not like millions and millions of Americans don't know that truth.

And guess what?  Everyone is entitled to a best defense against charges and accusations, even a sitting president (especially after they've been lobbing mud at him for his entire term). 

   

[Savago]

I recall Mr Trump saying that he wanted to be impeached... also saying 'I can do whatever I want'.

Since some of you buy the 'no impeachable offense' line, I got ask... what the current POTUS did (i.e. try to trade hundreds of millions of tax-payer money for dirty on Biden, stonewalling investigations, ordering his people to ignore subpoenas, lying about the whole thing, asking China/Russia on helping him in the election*, doing the call with Ukraine's president the day *after* Robert Mueller's deposition, etc) is the *correct and honest* thing a president is expected to do?
 

Is this kind of behavior what we expect from the holder of the oval office?
 ???


* on tape, on live TV.

[Tx Bohemian]

Looks to me like someone is starting to panic, just a little bit......

I agree!

Pelosi allowed herself to get worked in a corner and has no idea how to get out!
 I'd panic too!

[f6john]

I recall Mr Trump saying that he wanted to be impeached... also saying 'I can do whatever I want'.

Since some of you buy the 'no impeachable offense' line, I got ask... what the current POTUS did (i.e. try to trade hundreds of millions of tax-payer money for dirty on Biden, stonewalling investigations, ordering his people to ignore subpoenas, lying about the whole thing, asking China/Russia on helping him in the election*, doing the call with Ukraine's president the day *after* Robert Mueller's deposition, etc) is the *correct and honest* thing a president is expected to do?
 

Is this kind of behavior what we expect from the holder of the oval office?
 ???


* on tape, on live TV.

If you were President and the opposing party hated your guts so bad that they tried to derail your campaign and started planning your removal from office even before your inauguration you wouldn’t fight them tooth and nail everyday? If you had information that there was possibly some shady dealings by the opposing party in a foreign country that was corrupt you wouldn’t want it investigated?

Behavior? I expect the Congress to be open and above board if they think a President needs to be impeached. It’s obvious that this impeachment is all about the Democrats trying to get an edge in the 2020 election. Now if you hate Trump, you are rooting for the the Democrats and ignoring what a sham they have presented to the public, the rest of us see how tragic this whole process is damaging our republic and how it will shape our politics for many years to come.

[Wizzard]

All I see is a bunch of politicians that are butt hurt because Trump is president. They cannot accept it. That is why they slam the Electoral college, and have tried everything they can to make his life more difficult at the expense of our nation. They could care less about the rest of us. I used to not vote across party lines and have in fact many times cast a democratic vote for some offices. After what I have seen I doubt I will ever vote democratic again in my life. 

[Serk]

REP. NADLER: “There must never be a narrowly voted impeachment or an impeachment supported by one of our major political parties and opposed by the other. Such an impeachment will produce the divisiveness and bitterness in our politics for years to come and will call into question the very legitimacy of our political institutions…This is clearly a partisan railroad job…You may have the votes, you may have the muscle, but you do not have the legitimacy of a national consensus or of a constitutional imperative. This partisan coup-d’etat will go down in infamy in the history of this nation.”

REP. HOYER: “Our democracy will be threatened if we destroy the due process and high standard that the founding fathers established over two centuries ago. The process that the majority has pursued in this matter has been partisan; driven, I believe, by animus and exceedingly unfair. Like so many other acts of these last two Congresses, it has been unworthy of our duty and of our responsibility.”

REP. PELOSI: “We are bringing dishonor to it with our hypocrisy here in this chamber. Today, the Republican majority is not judging our President with fairness, but impeaching him with a vengeance… We are here today because the Republicans in the House are paralyzed with hatred of President Clinton; and until the Republicans free themselves of this hatred, our country will suffer…”

REP. JACKSON LEE: “Today with such a vote, these chambers will become the incinerator of the Constitution. There is no fairness in this process, there is no justice, and there is no dignity…Today our vote leads into the darkness of a vile attack on the Constitution. We leave here today void and empty because our president will have been toppled against the will of the people of the United States…Judge not and ye shall not be judged, condemn not and ye shall not be condemned, forgive and ye shall be forgiven.”

REP. DeLAURO: “I oppose this action with every fiber of my body because it is an affront to our Constitution and our democracy…Impeachment. It is wrong and it is unfair. It denies the American people their right to representative democracy…Benjamin Franklin spoke of impeachment as an alternative to assassination. Today this body is contemplating a Constitutional assassination. Driven by a naked partisanship almost without lawful and civil bounds…This debate…more than anything else symbolizes the madness that has inflamed the partisan fires on the other side of the aisle.”

.....if it weren't for double standards, they'd have no standards at all.

[Alberta Patriot]

Blue Collar Logic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRsn_Ksn0Ks

[Skinhead]

I haven't seen the Democrats this worked up since the Republicans freed the their slaves...

FIFY

[Robert]

Pretty funny video

https://youtu.be/5wHZQgkGZNc

[Willow]

I recall Mr Trump saying that he wanted to be impeached... also saying 'I can do whatever I want'.

Since some of you buy the 'no impeachable offense' line, I got ask... what the current POTUS did (i.e. try to trade hundreds of millions of tax-payer money for dirty on Biden, stonewalling investigations, ordering his people to ignore subpoenas, lying about the whole thing, asking China/Russia on helping him in the election*, doing the call with Ukraine's president the day *after* Robert Mueller's deposition, etc) is the *correct and honest* thing a president is expected to do?
 

Is this kind of behavior what we expect from the holder of the oval office?
 ???


* on tape, on live TV.

Your assessment of what the president has done is wildly disconnected with what we understand.

You, as do so many democrat representatives, insist that President Trump asked the Ukrainian president to "dig up dirt" on a political opponent.  He did not.  He suggested the Ukrainians investigate, that is to determine whether illegal activity had taken place.  Do you suggest that any possible criminal activity involving politicians should be ignored because it might impact their political goals?

Finally, impeachment is not about whether a government official behaved in a way we did not expect.  It is about criminal behavior.  Period.   

[Robert]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Can you believe that I will be impeached today by the Radical Left, Do Nothing Democrats, AND I DID NOTHING WRONG! A terrible Thing. Read the Transcripts. This should never happen to another President again. Say a PRAYER!

Here's what to expect: After the House is gaveled in at about 9 am, lawmakers will debate for six hours before two votes are held: One on each article of impeachment. Trump is facing two charges: one is abuse of power, stemming from President Trump's alleged attempted "quid pro quo" with Ukraine involving the Bidens.

The other is obstruction of Congress, based on the administration's policy of advising White House employees and members of Trump's circle to ignore Congressional subpoenas by invoking executive privilege.

The first charge is bogus

Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters

https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/106th-congress/16/document-text

Report: New Evidence Shows Hunter Biden-Ukraine Payments Flagged As ‘Suspicious’ In Early 2016

https://www.dailywire.com/news/report-new-evidence-shows-hunter-biden-ukraine-payments-flagged-as-suspicious-in-2016

The second charge is also bogus for many reasons not the least being the investigation had no basis in truth, or procedure so its illegitimate.

[Newstart2k]

If he wasn't the POTUS I would characterize that letter as the rantings of a whiny, guilty, looney, pu**y that needed to be bi**h slapped.

But since he IS the POTUS it must be something else instead. 

[Serk]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/18/politics/impeachment-polling-donald-trump/index.html

[Romeo]

Looks to me like someone is starting to panic, just a little bit......

and you, as usual, haven’t been paying attention. Did you really think Mr. Trump was just going to keep quiet? Every word he utters is true. The dems still, have no clue who they’re dealing with.

[baldo]

Every word he utters is true.

LOLOL....we must be hearing different words.

Believe me, I've been paying attention.

[Robert]

Here you go a battle plan on Trump obstruction.

https://humanevents.com/2019/12/16/william-barr-man-of-the-year/

Almost immediately upon taking charge at the Department of Justice, Barr put an end to the Mueller investigation. Barr was sworn in on February 14th, 2019; the Mueller investigation ended on March 22nd. There were reports that some prosecutors on Mueller’s team were keen to continue the probe, and prosecute a number of other officials. Barr’s actions stopped that.

    Barr, the experienced operator, saw right through Mueller’s ploy.

Barr also brought an end to any further investigation of the obstruction charges against President Trump. In June 2018, while in private practice at Kirkland and Ellis, Barr wrote a lengthy memo explaining the flaws in primary theory that Mueller and his team were using to investigate President Trump for obstruction of justice. Now, with Barr installed as attorney general, his views became the Department of Justice’s views; as subordinates, Mueller and his team had to abide by those views.

Mueller and his team tried one last, desperate maneuver to get the obstruction charges in front of Congress. Instead of trying to argue that President Trump be indicted for obstruction of justice (which Barr, as Attorney General, could have easily shot down), Mueller declined to make a charging decision, and hoped that Democrats in Congress would get the hint and impeach Trump on obstruction.

Here, too, Barr’s actions were decisive. When Mueller gave him his report, Barr did not immediately release it to the public (which would have been irresponsible, as the report required careful redactions). Instead, Barr released a summary memo of the Report, which included an affirmative finding on the obstruction—namely, that there was insufficient evidence to indict the President.

In the battle of framing, who gets there first usually wins, especially if they have the law on their side. Mueller and his team were trying to do an end run around the law, and create a public perception that the President had obstructed justice, all while avoiding Barr’s cogent legal objections to their theory.

[Rams]

Saw a "news report" today where the  Dems are accusing Senate Republicans of not being impartial.  Give me a frigg'n break.   Show a Dem Representitive that is impartial...….

Rams

[Bighead]

Saw a "news report" today where the  Dems are accusing Senate Republicans of not being impartial.  Give me a frigg'n break.   Show a Dem Representitive that is impartial...….

Rams

that may be the funniest yet saddest thing I have heard in a loooooooonnnnnngggggg time

[Romeo]

Every word he utters is true.

LOLOL....we must be hearing different words.

Believe me, I've been paying attention.

if you’ve been paying attention, you’re even more delusional than we’ve suspected.

[Jess from VA]

I think after the final vote is finally taken in this foregone conclusion,  the republicans should have a giant cake delivered to the House floor where an old stripper jumps out of the cake and dances to loud music and lap dances Shiff (for brains) and Pelosi.

Just to show they are contributing to the whole three ring circus in a positive way.   

[baldo]

Every word he utters is true.

LOLOL....we must be hearing different words.

Believe me, I've been paying attention.

if you’ve been paying attention, you’re even more delusional than we’ve suspected.

Nice try....coming from someone that thinks "Every word he utters is true"....

[Oss]

disgusting

I am embarrassed for each and every member of the house of representaives

All of them need to be removed this coming November and with it the end of the Democratic party

[scooperhsd]

disgusting

I am embarrassed for each and every member of the house of representaives

All of them need to be removed this coming November and with it the end of the Democratic party

Amen to that. However, it's not too likely....

[98valk]

Every word he utters is true.

LOLOL....we must be hearing different words.

Believe me, I've been paying attention.

if you’ve been paying attention, you’re even more delusional than we’ve suspected.

Nice try....coming from someone that thinks "Every word he utters is true"....

so did u read the Actual transcript of the phone call or do u just believe what bullschiff said was in the phone call?

[Bighead]

disgusting

I am embarrassed for each and every member of the house of representaives

All of them need to be removed this coming November and with it the end of the Democratic party

Amen Oss. Can you imagine what would be being said if the roles were reversed? Like if The big “ O “ were the one being impeached.  What a bunch of bigoted racist we all would be BTW how many Billions did he ship To Iran?   Talk about impeachable. How many Guns did he give to our enemies? Oh Inforgot none

[Rams]

Well, now Speaker Pelosi is holding Articles 1 & 2 and not sending them on to the Senate for some reason.
She states she doesn't believe it will be a fair trial.    No impartiality on the part of Republicans.
I'm curious as to how she sees her own house and impartiality.  

I really hope the House recognizes her exceptionally stupid and partisan leadership for what it is and replaces her.   The Democratic Party deserves better leadership.   But then, if the voters of her district would see her for what she really is (not much chance of that happening), maybe they'll decide to put her out to pasture.

Rams

[Robert]

Its amazingly disgusting the acts of the dems, but it even gets more so when you know the moves and counter moves instead of just the results and published nonsense.

 I agree Barr is who we have to thank for keeping this coup from removing a duly elected president, even after spying on him and putting so many road blocks up.

It also explains where the dems picked up their ideas on obstruction, from Mueller. But not the legal definition but the fabricated and distorted theories of Mueller.

Then we have the media come in and support the impeachment for obstruction under Muellers theories, then the left wanting to remove Trump go full steam ahead on wrong or fabricated rules. Dividing this nation and acting on an unsupported rule of law. All on Muellers wrong definition of obstruction. Very much so like damning the Constitution and its provisions by riding roughshod over peoples rights.

This also explains why the press keeps harping on obstruction and keeping people in the dark about the truth. They are complicit in this trying to sway public opinion. Sounds like many were involved they all need to be removed or in jail.  

This has nothing to do with justice or truth but treason. This has been going on since before Trump was elected, do you think its a plan to remove him or seeking justice, especially since Trump was not in office yet when these ideas were formed.

From the beginning they were spying on him, as a citizen running for office. That to me says more than anything Trump is NOT part of the cabal.  

They are afraid, they are losing power, they now have to grapple to get power back for the purpose of destroying the US as we know it, not for peoples good.

Whats more people are starting to see the plans, total deception, and lies that they are whipping up
in order to control this country.

To decipher this, the timeline is so important, or when did the ideas show up. If they just showed then it was in response to an action but if they were there the whole time then, its a action to remove a sitting president for any possible fabricated reason.

https://humanevents.com/2019/12/16/william-barr-man-of-the-year/


As discussed in one of the very first articles published in the re-launched Human Events, Robert Mueller’s novel theory of obstruction of justice could have led to an indefinite investigation, where any action that President Trump took—even criticizing the investigation—could have been construed as obstruction of justice. An indefinite special counsel investigation would have hamstrung President Trump as long as he was in office.

Mueller and his team tried one last, desperate maneuver to get the obstruction charges in front of Congress. Instead of trying to argue that President Trump be indicted for obstruction of justice (which Barr, as Attorney General, could have easily shot down), Mueller declined to make a charging decision, and hoped that Democrats in Congress would get the hint and impeach Trump on obstruction.Barr sniffed out the ploy, and exercised his lawful authority as Attorney General to affirmatively find no obstruction.

As a result,  Democrats desperately tried to revive the Russia theory and the Mueller investigation by having Mueller testify at a public hearing. If Barr had not acted, perhaps the Democrats would have proceeded on the basis of the report alone. But because Barr was so effective, Democrats thought they needed to get Mueller to speak for himself.

The problem for Democrats was that Mueller wasn’t in command of his report; he lacked clarity on the details. The Mueller hearing was an epic failure, a failure catalyzed by Bill Barr’s actions.
WIlliam Barr.

[98valk]

Well, now Speaker Pelosi is holding HR1 and not sending it on to the Senate for some reason.
She states she doesn't believe it will be a fair trial.     No impartiality on the part of Republicans.
I'm curious as to how she sees her own house and impartiality.   

I really hope the House recognizes her exceptionally stupid and partisan leadership for what it is and replaces her.   The Democratic Party deserves better leadership.   But then, if the voters of her district would see her for what she really is (not much chance of that happening), maybe they'll decide to put her out to pasture.

Rams

Pelosi’s unilaterally sitting on the impeachment. This is another brazen unconstitutional act...
Mark Levin·Thursday, December 19, 2019·1 minute

Nancy Pelosi was apparently advised by leftwing Harvard law professor Lawrence Tribe to delay sending the impeachment to the Senate. So she’s unilaterally sitting on the impeachment. This is another brazen unconstitutional act.
Here’s what Mitch McConnell and the Senate Republicans must do in response: The Senate has the sole power under the Constitution to adjudicate an impeachment. Therefore, Pelosi is attempting to obstruct the Senate’s power to act on its constitutional authority. McConnell should immediately put an end to this and declare the impeachment null and void as the speaker has failed to complete the impeachment process by timely sending it to the Senate for adjudication. McConnell has no less authority to unilaterally make such a decision than Pelosi does to withhold the administrative notification of an impeachment to the Senate either indefinitely or with conditions. Her effort to cripple the presidency and blackmail the Senate must be defeated.

[Black Pearl's Captain]

Is it possible some Dems are actually starting to use their own brains?

"(CNN)Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii voted "present" on both articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump on Wednesday, later slamming the process as politically motivated."

I was surprised to learn this today. Just a move for more votes in the future on her part?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Is it possible some Dems are actually starting to use their own brains?

"(CNN)Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii voted "present" on both articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump on Wednesday, later slamming the process as politically motivated."

I was surprised to learn this today. Just a move for more votes in the future on her part?

More likely she was worried about losing support from the Russians.

[f6john]

I think the Democrats are bringing the rope to their own hanging. I don’t expect their strategy to change over the next 11 months no matter what happens in the Senate. I don’t expect Trump to win by a landslide in the the popular vote in 2020 but with the miserable performance of the Democrats I believe it should deliver another impressive win for Trump.

It seems the Democrats have been so focused on getting a big win against Trump (impeachment) that they can’t see the negative results it’s bringing. Of course, there is a huge amount of support for the impeachment of Trump, basically those who voted for Hilliary, but there time would be better spent coming up with a strong candidate for 2020. All I can add is GO DEMS!!!

[f6john]

Is it possible some Dems are actually starting to use their own brains?

"(CNN)Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii voted "present" on both articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump on Wednesday, later slamming the process as politically motivated."

I was surprised to learn this today. Just a move for more votes in the future on her part?

More likely she was worried about losing support from the Russians.

Are you serious or did you just leave off an emoji?

[Alberta Patriot]

Is it possible some Dems are actually starting to use their own brains?

"(CNN)Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii voted "present" on both articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump on Wednesday, later slamming the process as politically motivated."

I was surprised to learn this today. Just a move for more votes in the future on her part?

More likely she was worried about losing support from the Russians.

Are you serious or did you just leave off an emoji?

IMHO Tulsi is a fence sitter, publicly trashing Trump but not willing to make an official statement in the house Re: Impeachment vote.
She proudly talks about her time in the military, but if the military conducted it's affairs by Tulsi's fence sitting standards we'd all be living under a hammer and sickle...or worse.
To Use a Quid Pro Joe meme...C'mon Man!!...have some balls.