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Author Topic: New York Fed Plans to Throw $2.93 Trillion at Wall Street’s Trading Houses  (Read 660 times)
Robert
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« on: December 21, 2019, 02:55:58 PM »

Are you kidding me, the same ones that got the last bail out and did nothing to help the average Joe.

New York Fed Plans to Throw $2.93 Trillion at Wall Street’s Trading Houses Over Next Month as New York Times Remains Silent

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2019/12/new-york-fed-plans-to-throw-2-93-trillion-at-wall-streets-trading-houses-over-next-month-as-new-york-times-remains-silent/

Last Thursday, December 12, the New York Fed announced that over the next month it would shower the trading houses (primary dealers) on Wall Street with a total of $2.93 trillion in short-term loans. The money is for a Wall Street liquidity crisis that has yet to be explained in credible terms to the American people and yet the New York Times does not appear to have an investigative reporter assigned to investigate what’s really going on just 11 years after those same trading houses blew themselves up in the biggest financial crash since the Great Depression and took the U.S. economy along for the ride.

The reality is that the New York Fed has now pumped a cumulative total of more than $4 trillion into this black lending hole on Wall Street and has been making upwards of $100 billion a day in loans to Wall Street trading houses every business day since September 17.

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2019/12/congress-held-a-hearing-on-the-feds-bailout-of-the-repo-market-heres-why-you-havent-heard-about-it/
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2019, 06:51:37 PM »

thank you for the latest info.  cooldude
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2019, 05:31:11 AM »

yep..Dr Ron Paul ran in part..on Auditing the FEDERAL RESERVE....that isn't federal and has no reserves--they enter zero's in a computer and that creates money--we get charged 6% for this favor and then 4% interest on the zero's in the computer---only some 3-4% of our money is actually printed..as some know the FED has never been audited---Ron ran a major plank in his platform was to audit the FED---In 2012 he won 7 states-had 2 stolen from him at the RNC convention but he still had 5 which qualified him to speak for 20 minutes at the convention on national TV with a live microphone...would they allow that?? hell no..he was told he had to write his speech--they got to edit it--and then a 3 second delay was going to happen after he spoke.he wouldn't do it--so much for free speech..Try "The Money Masters.com"
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2019, 05:32:10 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2019, 05:48:05 AM »

America started a 25 year Demographic Deflationary Depression in 2008. The only thing keeping it from being evident is FED monetary injections. It's no different from Japan - just bigger and the dollar is the reserve currency so we have more rope.  The second round will come when the Boomers start selling off assets (houses, stocks, bonds) and Gen-X and Millennials can't buy them because we have no money.

Everyone is of the opinion that the FED can catch the U.S. economy in the next wave as well.  But it won't be able to, in my opinion. Depressions don't happen because of downturns. Depressions happen when "the thing that can't fail" fails.  In 1929 it was the Stock Market/Banks.  People literally thought that they couldn't fail.  Then they did. In 2008 it was housing... "Who doesn't pay their mortgage" and the derivatives on the banks balance sheets.

In the next wave - which will be all Western nations, Europe, England, Japan still, and the U.S. - The central banks will be the thing that "can't fail" but does. The complete collapse will be arrested by the World Bank using "Special Drawing Rights" which is a sort of super currency.  It's a "basket currency" of a number of different nations including China. It will become the "reserve currency" that clears trades.  It will give other nations relief from the weaponization of the dollar. It will give the EAST skin in the game. And it will end dollar hegemony.  After that the "basket" will be adjusted to lower the dollar's status in international finance and raise the status of the Yuan.

It isn't a conspiracy or some grand problem.  It's just the nature of what's happening in the world. Economic power is shifting East. This is how it will happen. Your "greenback" won't change, nor will what currencies are called in England and the EU.... but the exchange currency and the clearing house currency will change from the Dollar to the World Bank "SDR." You can look it up.  It's a real thing already.  For instance, when the U.S. wanted to give money for weapons to Ukraine without directly pissing off Russia the loans weren't give in dollars, they were given in "SDR." It's not nefarious, it's just reality.

The bigger issue for many American's, however, is what it's going to do to pensions. I'm not certain of this but it really feels like Wall Street has taken all this weak corporate debt and dumped it into public pension funds (which are run by neophytes). Last time the fed bailed out the creditors in the crash - because the creditors were the banks (too big to fail). This time the debt will be held in pension funds and they won't get bailed out. (I think... I could be wrong... but I can't figure out were the "dumb money" that's holding all this debt is... I feel like it's the pension funds.)

Anyway, you're right. The fed has to find new places and new ways to make up for the ongoing demographic depression in America.  This cycle it's into the Repo Market.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2019, 05:56:25 AM »

A person does have limited options including having a "sell" order in place for when a stock goes into free fall and "buy" orders at a number well below that as the market tends to recover and that is when the money is made. I am too dumb to guess right but my wife does ok so far.

Also there are EFT funds that deal in foreign and domestic currency as well as gold, but those gold EFT's have lost money every year as the economy heats up.

Many foreign born investors have continued to buy US land and income producing properties as it is thought they are safer long term than stocks.   Owning an income producing building with a small or no mortgage has been a reliable hedge on everything.  It is how Joseph Kennedy built his empire among many many others.

The Fed may be the biggest swamp out there. I reject your premise as to who controls it, but it is not us I agree
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2019, 06:22:08 AM »



Many foreign born investors have continued to buy US land and income producing properties as it is thought they are safer long term than stocks.   Owning an income producing building with a small or no mortgage has been a reliable hedge on everything.  It is how Joseph Kennedy built his empire among many many others.

They are seeing a lot of this in England where London housing is being bought up by money from the East and just being left vacant. Chinese are absolutely addicted to buying property. It's their primary savings vehicle.  It's one of the reasons for the "ghost cities." They think any real estate is good.  Another reason for the ghost cities is that China knows that 150 million people or more will need to urbanize over the next decade, so they build the cities first.  Install a major manufacturer (Tesla just opened plants there, plus there are lots more domestic expansion) and the people will come.  Or so their logic goes.

One of their previous ghost cities (I don't remember the name) is now bigger than Silicon Valley and is a tech hub of the world. So they may be right.  Did you know that in the same time it took San Francisco to approve and build a 2 mile access road to the Golden Gate Bridge China built a high speed rail system to all its major cities?  It's true.

The median home value in Austin Texas is $388,000.  The  median income in Austin Texas is $55,000.  I do in-home dog training in Austin, so I'm in the higher income people's home every month. They have money (at least for now). But how does this square is people being able to buy a house anymore?  I will point out that all the new homes (except for retirement communities) are HUGE. You feel like your in a bank lobby when you're standing in their kitchen. All for 2 adults and 1.8 kids.
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2019, 06:35:36 AM »

2.93 trillion in loans is throwing money? Loans get repaid and in this case it's an overnight loan and 2% interest. All so our interest rates don't climb because of overnight loan money shortages (which the Fed caused by new rules). The Fed requires the trade banks to hold more "safe" loans since the 2008 fiasco which limits their overnight repo funds so the Fed has to make these loans to check overnight interest rates.
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2019, 07:09:42 AM »

2.93 trillion in loans is throwing money? Loans get repaid and in this case it's an overnight loan and 2% interest. All so our interest rates don't climb because of overnight loan money shortages (which the Fed caused by new rules). The Fed requires the trade banks to hold more "safe" loans since the 2008 fiasco which limits their overnight repo funds so the Fed has to make these loans to check overnight interest rates.


Seems logical, but what's the difference between me loaning you $100 at an annualized 2% rate and saying "pay me back in a year" vs loaning you $100 every single day at an annualized 2% rate and saying "pay me back when the sun comes up." It's still a perpetual $100 loan.

You're right that the banks are no longer institutional risks to the global economy. They just transferred all that risk to the FED and the ECB. The amazing thing is the warp speed adoption rate of the idea that perpetual FED participation in the markets to the tune of trillions of dollars per year has been adopted as "business as usual."  I mean, it is business as usual now. As long as your nose is above water you must be OK.

"So our interest rates don't climb." Is Exactly the reason. It's not "the market." The interest rates SHOULD climb.  It would help savers, pensions and give proper return on capital. But it can't be allowed to climb because it would stop the new housing bubble, cause exploding government deficits at all levels and tank the dollar.   That's the point. We are to an inflection point where even if the Overnight Lending Rate from bank to bank goes up to something resembling reasonable levels the entire economy will crash... if that weren't true the Fed wouldn't have to bail it out every night.
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2019, 03:42:01 AM »


Seems logical, but what's the difference between me loaning you $100 at an annualized 2% rate and saying "pay me back in a year" vs loaning you $100 every single day at an annualized 2% rate and saying "pay me back when the sun comes up." It's still a perpetual $100 loan.

You're right that the banks are no longer institutional risks to the global economy. They just transferred all that risk to the FED and the ECB. The amazing thing is the warp speed adoption rate of the idea that perpetual FED participation in the markets to the tune of trillions of dollars per year has been adopted as "business as usual."  I mean, it is business as usual now. As long as your nose is above water you must be OK.

"So our interest rates don't climb." Is Exactly the reason. It's not "the market." The interest rates SHOULD climb.  It would help savers, pensions and give proper return on capital. But it can't be allowed to climb because it would stop the new housing bubble, cause exploding government deficits at all levels and tank the dollar.   That's the point. We are to an inflection point where even if the Overnight Lending Rate from bank to bank goes up to something resembling reasonable levels the entire economy will crash... if that weren't true the Fed wouldn't have to bail it out every night.


The Fed has been the one that caused every crash in the US. Now by your estimation the world bank is going to level the world financial markets. To me that does not sound like good financial policy except for those who are bleeding the US dry up to this point.

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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2019, 03:55:26 PM »


Seems logical, but what's the difference between me loaning you $100 at an annualized 2% rate and saying "pay me back in a year" vs loaning you $100 every single day at an annualized 2% rate and saying "pay me back when the sun comes up." It's still a perpetual $100 loan.

You're right that the banks are no longer institutional risks to the global economy. They just transferred all that risk to the FED and the ECB. The amazing thing is the warp speed adoption rate of the idea that perpetual FED participation in the markets to the tune of trillions of dollars per year has been adopted as "business as usual."  I mean, it is business as usual now. As long as your nose is above water you must be OK.

"So our interest rates don't climb." Is Exactly the reason. It's not "the market." The interest rates SHOULD climb.  It would help savers, pensions and give proper return on capital. But it can't be allowed to climb because it would stop the new housing bubble, cause exploding government deficits at all levels and tank the dollar.   That's the point. We are to an inflection point where even if the Overnight Lending Rate from bank to bank goes up to something resembling reasonable levels the entire economy will crash... if that weren't true the Fed wouldn't have to bail it out every night.


The Fed has been the one that caused every crash in the US. Now by your estimation the world bank is going to level the world financial markets. To me that does not sound like good financial policy except for those who are bleeding the US dry up to this point.

Shadow banking system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_banking_system#cite_note-15


I understand. But that's like saying churches are greedy, the press is manipulative or governments charge too much in taxes. This misunderstanding isn't that the Fed (or government) controls made up money. The misunderstanding is that it hasn't always been the case. 1000 years ago gold was money ... so people think gold is somehow "real" money.  But the reality is that the Government at that time owned and controlled all gold mining. Gold is a fairly useless metal.  Previous to electronics it was completely useless. The only unique characteristic it had was that it's only found in certain places. Therefore it's easy to control production (if you are the King). So Gold was MADE INTO money even though gold has no worth whatsoever.

Iron couldn't be money, it's too easy for peasants for find on their own. Other objects were used as money but they were rare in one area (obsidian for instance) so it was traded for something that was rare in other areas. Prior to gold being money the king controlled the GRAIN, so worth was measured in bags of barley. That was only true because you had to bring your barley to the king's storehouse or be killed (or run off your land).

When economies became complicated Gold was used. Think of Gold - in those days - as SOVEREIGN WEALTH - The king of one country could use it to pay the king of ANOTHER country to avoid being invaded, or to buy something of worth. SOVEREIGNS controlled the production and distribution of gold. They used it internally to control the population and they used it as an accepted measure of state to state transfers of wealth.

Fast forward a couple thousand years and the same is true of money. The rag used for making dollars actually has more intrinsic value than gold did 2000 years ago.  You can make a pair of paints out of cotton.  They couldn't make anything useful out of gold. It's a way to control the population and it's used for state to state transfers of weath (at least the dollar is).  

The future is digital money, not gold.  I know that gold has value now that goes up and down, but that's only because it's a relic of a bygone age.

You can control 100 people with 1 soldier.  You can control 1,000 people with one priest. You can control 10,000 people with one banker. The illusion is that you have freedom to choose... not that fiat currencies are or aren't real money. You can "BUY" gold with what? not goats... not seashells.. with dollars. And you can "SELL" gold for what? buckets of rice?   Nope... Dollars. So gold is just a commodity that goes up and down relative to real money, which is dollars. Just like oil goes up and down.  The price of a bottle of Bourbon goes up or down. Etc.

Here's the best example of that... you are allowed to elect who?  Politicians.  That's all. You can choose between Predigested choice A or predigested choice B. That's it!  Their terms are limited.  Their powers are limited. They have rules and regulations to follow.  They get trotted out on TV to talk... We cheer or Boo.. just like in the Coliseum.  You don't get to choose the money. You don't get to choose the financial instruments.  You don't get to choose to have the 1% not be the 1% anymore.  You can change the president all you want it will be a PEACEFUL transition of power.  Try to change the Banks.  Try to change the people who control the money and there will be PEACEFUL transfer of anything.  The only transfer of power of money is a violent transfer of power. Because the President may be the top of our political pyramid but he is the bottom of the inverted money pyramid.  He needs them.  They don't need him.

I'm a prepper. A no-joke, too smart to be shown on TV, prepper. I have food, fuel, water, guns, livestock, security protocols... even an EMP proof truck. But that's all just for fun. Because there will always be local government, local control, local guys who have the right to shoot you but you don't have the right to shoot back. The only thing the system will not let fail... is the system. Everything else is negotiable... from your life to your land to your freedom to the name of the country or the name of the money. When the alien overlords arrive CNN and the Republicans and Democrats will say, "All hail the alien overlords" as long as they get to keep their status.

To return to your point... the only ones being bled dry are the PEOPLE. Not the people in power.  That's no different than it was with gold, barley, or anything else.  Work... if you stop then you will be cut off from the stuff you need to live (in this case money)... have babies... fight in a war if we say so... if you're a good, obedient subject then you will be given a greater share as long as it's useful for us.. then you will be laid off and someone else's kid will be brought in to replace you.  The U.S. and western societies right now are the most benign controllers in history... but make no mistake, THEY aren't being bled at all.  You are.

(I love talking about this stuff.)
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2019, 04:23:13 PM »

Hey thanks for that and the reply, enjoy your trip, I will have some points to bring up but I am also interested in your EMP proof truck. That sounds awesome.  cooldude
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2019, 07:41:50 AM »

Hey thanks for that and the reply, enjoy your trip, I will have some points to bring up but I am also interested in your EMP proof truck. That sounds awesome.  cooldude

I blogged it
https://tonybluegoat.blogspot.com/2015/11/the-nuke-proof-farm-truck.html

Wanna know about the car I made run on moonshine that I distill myself?  In the end the car conked out but the alcohol was great!
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