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Author Topic: Anodizing or Powercoating?  (Read 2101 times)
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« on: December 07, 2009, 02:42:54 PM »

I have a set of 6 degree Triple Trees being made by Daryl at XF6.  I want them to have a black finish with the beveled edge being polished.  Daryl will do the beveled edge, were just up in the air about what is the best finish. 
Option 1 - Anodizing - I like the black anodized look but a few friends have warned me that it will fade to a purple color fairly quickly. 
Option 2 - Powder coat - I could have the trees powdercoated but without machining and polishing the edge.
Option 3 - Anodizing and Clear Powdercoating - More expensive.  Daryl suggested anodizing the trees black, he would machine and polish the edges and then have them clear powdercoated.  He said the clear powdercoating will block the UV's from fading the anodizing.
Anyone out there have some opinions or other options? 
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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 04:39:18 AM »

A reputable Aniodizer can do the job right. Not all Anodizers are the same.
But I'd go with Daryl's recommendation as he is the guy manufactering your parts,
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 05:04:54 AM »

Of the three options, I think you'd get the best results with Option 3.  

That said, there may be another option.  The powdercoater I've used will coat wheels and then machine out/off areas of the coating to reveal bright aluminum.  What about powdercoating black, beveling, and powdercoating clear on top of everything?
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 07:49:14 AM »

Of the three options, I think you'd get the best results with Option 3. 

That said, there may be another option.  The powdercoater I've used will coat wheels and then machine out/off areas of the coating to reveal bright aluminum.  What about powdercoating black, beveling, and powdercoating clear on top of everything?

Yea, I guess that would be an option.  Its still two processes so cost will be the same as my third option.  He didnt think the powder coating and beveling would work well because it would leave a ridge and be susceptible to chipping off easy. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 08:07:59 AM »

Options galore!  Not really!

I would have to think that any anodizing that fades is either being done improperly or the wrong or cheap chemicals are being used.

Anodizing is by far the superior process for aluminum when comparing to powder coating.

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 08:12:11 AM »

It is but most say the UV Rays really take a toll on it.  Daryls anodizer is the one who suggested anodizing and then clear powdercoating over it. 
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 08:32:39 AM »

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and be susceptible to chipping off easy

I'm not an expert and don't have a vested interest in powdercoat, but I strongly suspect that any blow strong enough to chip the powdercoat off the edge of a triple tree will be enough to tear up the triple tree.  The process my wheels went through included sandblasting to create rougher surface for the powdercoat to adhere to.  You couldn't do that to an anodized surface.  Perhaps a clearcoat like Glisten PC from Por15 would be better on top of anodizing.

http://www.por15.com/GLISTEN-PC/productinfo/GPCGG/
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 09:40:08 AM »

His concern was the ridge or edge created by machining the powder coat off for the beveled edge.  That was why he suggested clearing over it once he beveled it.  And the clear powder would protect the anodizing from fading.
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 10:35:30 PM »

I was leaning towards having the trees powdercoated.  I was doing some searches and read in a few different places that when powdercoating 6061 billet, a temp over 400 degress will begin to break the aluminum down and degrade its integrity.  Anyone have any knowledge of this?  I would have to find a powder that requires reduced heat.  Just when I thought I had it all figured out.......
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 08:03:55 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 09:45:51 AM »

Options galore!  Not really!

I would have to think that any anodizing that fades is either being done improperly or the wrong or cheap chemicals are being used.

Anodizing is by far the superior process for aluminum when comparing to powder coating.

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 There is anodize and then there is Hard anodize.  Going with the Hard anodize should not fade.   Hard anodizing produces a much thicker coating of aluminum oxide, penetrating holes and fissures in the surface to create a more uniform appearance than regular anodized aluminum.

They could be hard anodized, then cut the bevel on the edges and then polished and clear coated.
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