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« on: January 09, 2020, 11:08:50 AM » |
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But our intelligence says that the airliner that crashed was shot down by a Soviet SA 15 mobile surface to air missile.
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2020, 11:11:55 AM » |
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2020, 11:18:04 AM » |
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I'm surprised they didn't blame in on a bird strike. An Iranian bird.  |
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2020, 11:24:05 AM » |
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The report also confirmed that both of the “black boxes” that contain data and cockpit communications from the plane had been recovered, though they sustained damage and some parts of their memory was lost. I’m calling BS on this. Based on when this claim was made and when the black boxes were recovered, add to that camel transport and Iran’s technology. Bull Crap! Want to bet on those black boxes being damaged beyond recognition? Rams |
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2020, 11:27:42 AM » |
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Just a cursory look at the photos coming from the crash area (I don't consider it a crash site) makes it self evident that the aircraft was shot down and blew apart in mid-air. A typical crash would have an actual crash site at impact with the wreckage generally contained within a definable site. This was a crash area as the pieces of the aircraft were all over a large area.
While technically this is rocket science, the reality of the situation really isn't rocket science.
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2020, 12:39:37 PM » |
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Liberal pundits calling this Trump's fault in 3.2.1....
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f6john
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2020, 01:51:38 PM » |
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Liberal pundits calling this Trump's fault in 3.2.1....
You know, you’re right, if Trump hadn’t been born none of this would have happened.  |
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2020, 02:24:31 PM » |
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Liberal pundits calling this Trump's fault in 3.2.1....
You know, you’re right, if Trump hadn’t been born none of this would have happened. That didn't take long. Mayor Pete tweeted " innocent civilians are now dead because they were caught in the middle of a unnecessary and unwanted military tit for tat". Essentially blaming Trump, for killing that terrorist. I am so sick of liberal talking heads blaming Trump all the while defending Iran. I hate that this moron is from Indiana... CNN just has some worthless women from Iran condemning Trump and America. Fox found video of the same women in 1979 saying she would shoot an American hostage in the head if she had the chance. Good job CNN you just defended Iran by condemning America. Don't tell me that liberals give a damn about the American people because it's obvious to me they DON'T..... |
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2020, 02:36:11 PM » |
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Pay very close attention to those defending terrorists. VERY CLOSE.
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2020, 03:09:34 PM » |
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Liberal pundits calling this Trump's fault in 3.2.1....
You know, you’re right, if Trump hadn’t been born none of this would have happened. That didn't take long. Mayor Pete tweeted " innocent civilians are now dead because they were caught in the middle of a unnecessary and unwanted military tit for tat". Essentially blaming Trump, for killing that terrorist. I am so sick of liberal talking heads blaming Trump all the while defending Iran. I hate that this moron is from Indiana... CNN just has some worthless women from Iran condemning Trump and America. Fox found video of the same women in 1979 saying she would shoot an American hostage in the head if she had the chance. Good job CNN you just defended Iran by condemning America. Don't tell me that liberals give a damn about the American people because it's obvious to me they DON'T..... Mayor Pete is just one moron from Indiana. The problem is he has thousands of morons supporting him. A lot of people think it’s going to be Bernie or Uncle Joe but if it is a contested convention, who knows who will emerge, Hilliary maybe? Just kidding, I am kidding...... |
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2020, 03:44:40 PM » |
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This was a very big screw up, and they own it.  U.S. officials are confident Iran shot down a Ukrainian jetliner in the hours after the Iranian missile attack on U.S. targets earlier this week, CBS News has learned.
U.S. intelligence picked up signals of the radar being turned on and satellite detected infrared blips of two missile launches, probably SA-15s, followed shortly by another infrared blip of an explosion. |
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2020, 03:48:39 PM » |
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You may not like him, but he is no moron. Naval Intelligence Officer, graduate of Harvard, graduate of Oxford.  |
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2020, 04:04:19 PM » |
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You may not like him, but he is no moron. Naval Intelligence Officer, graduate of Harvard, graduate of Oxford. We use the term loosely. It’s not all about education, which he must have excelled in, he definitely fits in with the rest of the Democratic field. |
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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2020, 04:19:08 PM » |
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You may not like him, but he is no moron. Naval Intelligence Officer, graduate of Harvard, graduate of Oxford. Do you like him? |
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2020, 04:22:56 PM » |
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Video Shows Ukrainian Plane Being Hit Over Iran The New York Times has obtained video of the moment a Ukrainian airliner was hit minutes after takeoff from Tehran. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/video/iran-plane-missile.html?smid=nytcore-ios-shareVideo verified by The New York Times appears to show an Iranian missile hitting a plane above Parand, near Tehran’s airport, the area where a Ukrainian airliner stopped transmitting its signal before it crashed on Wednesday. |
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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2020, 04:31:52 PM » |
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You may not like him, but he is no moron. Naval Intelligence Officer, graduate of Harvard, graduate of Oxford. Do you like him? I have respect for him. I don't know if I like him. |
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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2020, 04:32:58 PM » |
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You may not like him, but he is no moron. Naval Intelligence Officer, graduate of Harvard, graduate of Oxford. Your right. Educated fool. |
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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2020, 04:34:30 PM » |
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The report also confirmed that both of the “black boxes” that contain data and cockpit communications from the plane had been recovered, though they sustained damage and some parts of their memory was lost. I’m calling BS on this. Based on when this claim was made and when the black boxes were recovered, add to that camel transport and Iran’s technology. Bull Crap! Want to bet on those black boxes being damaged beyond recognition? Rams Just funnel those black boxes to HRC. She knows how to make evidence disappear, and for good. |
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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2020, 04:38:16 PM » |
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You may not like him, but he is no moron. Naval Intelligence Officer, graduate of Harvard, graduate of Oxford. Your right. Educated fool. “Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance.” ― Sun Tzu |
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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2020, 04:54:55 PM » |
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I hear he is giving free sleepovers to those on the fence. I'll sign you up meathead.  |
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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2020, 04:57:19 PM » |
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Heard it's a real banging time.  |
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« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2020, 05:31:04 PM » |
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The fact that Bill Clinton was an Oxford educated Rhodes scholar pretty much negates any correlation between formal education and intelligence and/or moral fortitude.....
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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2020, 05:37:54 PM » |
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The fact that Bill Clinton was an Oxford educated Rhodes scholar pretty much negates any correlation between formal education and intelligence and/or moral fortitude.....
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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2020, 05:55:15 PM » |
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I hear he is giving free sleepovers to those on the fence. I'll sign you up meathead.  Good thing I have never hidden mine then huh? |
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« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2020, 07:12:07 PM » |
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You may not like him, but he is no moron. Naval Intelligence Officer, graduate of Harvard, graduate of Oxford. Your right. Educated fool. “Pretend inferiority and encourage his arrogance.” ― Sun Tzu Chitty Chitty Bang Bang We Love You - Dick Van Dyke |
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You may not like him, but he is no moron. Naval Intelligence Officer, graduate of Harvard, graduate of Oxford. Naval Reserve only from '09-'17. seven months in Afghanistan (while he was mayor) was part of a unit assigned to identify and disrupt terrorist finance networks and mainly worked as an armed driver for his commander. this is like a guy stating he is an electrician because he is in the electricians union, yet all the guy does is pull cable and install boxes. wow so smart Buttigieg attended Harvard University, where he majored in history and literature, Bachelor of Arts degree with first-class honors in philosophy, politics, and economics after studying at Pembroke College, Oxford. so no real world skills so he decided to be a politician. interesting another oxford grad being pushed to the forefront, aka bill clinton. what is going on at that school? with basically no real skills or experience, read about the high level jobs he was getting, he is another puppet Manchurian Candidate. |
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You may not like him, but he is no moron. Naval Intelligence Officer, graduate of Harvard, graduate of Oxford. Do you like him? I have respect for him. I don't know if I like him. Finally a response! Beginning early last year, I've occasionally posed questions to Democrats and Trump haters such as 'do you like the direction your party is going?', or 'which presidential candidate do you support?' As a former dem myself, I'm truly curious how many of my old comrades really like what's going on in their party. This was the first reply I've seen, though "I don't know" isn't the answer I was hoping for. So my follow up question is, what has mayor Pete accomplished that has earned your respect? |
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« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2020, 06:00:45 AM » |
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You may not like him, but he is no moron. Naval Intelligence Officer, graduate of Harvard, graduate of Oxford. I have seen a few highly educated moron's in my lifetime. |
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« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2020, 06:10:24 AM » |
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Video Shows Ukrainian Plane Being Hit Over Iran The New York Times has obtained video of the moment a Ukrainian airliner was hit minutes after takeoff from Tehran. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/video/iran-plane-missile.html?smid=nytcore-ios-shareVideo verified by The New York Times appears to show an Iranian missile hitting a plane above Parand, near Tehran’s airport, the area where a Ukrainian airliner stopped transmitting its signal before it crashed on Wednesday. just like the TWA 747 flight out of new york, that warned clinton what to do. |
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« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2020, 08:07:42 AM » |
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You may not like him, but he is no moron. Naval Intelligence Officer, graduate of Harvard, graduate of Oxford. I have seen a few highly educated moron's in my lifetime. Did they practice inappropriate use of apostrophes, too? LOL....just funnin' ya. |
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You may not like him, but he is no moron. Naval Intelligence Officer, graduate of Harvard, graduate of Oxford. I have seen a few highly educated moron's in my lifetime. Did they practice inappropriate use of apostrophes, too? LOL....just funnin' ya. I am not highly educated. |
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« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2020, 10:35:19 AM » |
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You may not like him, but he is no moron. Naval Intelligence Officer, graduate of Harvard, graduate of Oxford. I have seen a few highly educated moron's in my lifetime. Did they practice inappropriate use of apostrophes, too? LOL....just funnin' ya. I am not highly educated. |
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The fact that Bill Clinton was an Oxford educated Rhodes scholar pretty much negates any correlation between formal education and intelligence and/or moral fortitude.....
intelligence and morality do not go hand in hand. Niether does Intelligence and education. Just because someone holds a piece of paper stating their education does not make that person smart. Example: growing up my best friends mother had several degrees from different universities and yet she was too dumb to get out of the rain, dumb as a hammer. |
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« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2020, 07:01:22 PM » |
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Or how about another president that attended Columbia? Well, so he says anyway. Had a law degree for a while. His wife had one for a while as well. You know the one....the Community Organizer!
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It would seem that Obama (pbuh)'s benefactors have finally fessed up to their "mistake"..... https://apnews.com/21f4a92a2dfbc38581719664bdf6f38e |
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