Trumps back channel to Iran.

[Robert]

Things are not always as they appear, especially on the political front, its almost like slight of hand. This is why the electorate, (citizens) are described as sheep. So easily distracted and not able to see the truth in actions. Some leaders use this for our detriment but some use it for our good. Two scenarios of tactics I put in this and the post below so all can decide.  

 Many dont like Trump, but he has done something that not only needed to be done and no one would do it before, but defused the tensions in situations and allowed players to save face. That is the art of the deal, so to speak. Many have no conception of background dealings and dont look or wait for things to shake out. They dont like the harshness of how he acts but most is a show to get done what needed to be done.

Actually the dems did the same thing with impeachment and Russia gate. Since most people focused on Trump and impeachment when in reality it was a few Dems that were hijacking the US government for their own interest. Trying to remove a duly elected US president to coverup all their treasonous deeds, all the time putting the focus on Trump.

I am surprised that this was revealed actually. Its not the kind of thing that most ever know, since it reveals not only a plan but a tactic that could change the situation.

Most like Biden would use situations to their benefit, it seems Trump has used this situation to stop a major terrorist from inflicting more causalities.


As the WSJ reports, just hours after the U.S. strike which killed Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani, the Trump administration sent an urgent back channel message to Tehran: "Don’t escalate." The encrypted fax message was sent via the Swiss Embassy in Iran, one of the few means of direct, confidential communication between the two sides, U.S. officials told the WSJ. Then, in frantic attempts to de-escalate even as top US and Iranian leaders were stirring patriotic sentiment and nationalistic fervor, the White House and Iranian leaders exchanged further messages in the days that followed, which officials in both countries described as far more measured than the fiery rhetoric traded publicly by politicians.
The Swiss ambassador to Iran, Markus Leitner, here with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani in 2017, helped shuttle messages between the U.S. and Iran. Photo: Swiss embassy.

It worked: a week later, and after a retaliatory, if highly theatrical, Iranian missile attack on two military bases hosting American troops that purposefully inflicted no casualties, Washington and Tehran have stepped back from the brink of open hostilities (for now).

[Robert]

Also while Trump and Iran played out so did the false impeachment play that Clinton and Pelosi orchestrated.


Mrs. Pelosi’s real motive here - the material is not for impeachment but rather to use the Mueller dossier as political opposition “research” for the coming election. Speaker Nancy Pelosi has been clinging to her bill of impeachment for one reason: hoping that a judge will rule to release all the evidence and depositions collected by Robert Mueller’s investigation.

There is no question that from the start of his investigation, Special Counsel Robert Mueller knew that the case was opened under false pretenses, since his very close friend, the erstwhile FBI director James Comey, also knew by early 2017 that all the predicating material was substantially false, and that it was procured by Mrs. Clinton. To carry it beyond that was a scheme by acting FBI director Rod Rosenstein to issue a series of “scoping” letters that increasingly widened Mr. Mueller’s purview to go fishing for crimes in every area and every chronological phase of the president’s life. That smacks of what’s known in Anglo-American law as attainder by process: first declaring someone an outlaw, and only afterward seeking a crime to justify it. Under our system, first crimes are established, then persons liable for them are brought to court to answer charges.

Of course, there’s good reason to suspect that Mr. Mueller himself was a false front for the operation conducted in his name, which was really an intrigue carried out by a claque of Democratic Party Lawfare attorneys led by Andrew Weissmann, Mr. Mueller’s chief deputy. Mr. Mueller’s testimony before two House committees last July revealed a pathetic figure who was unacquainted with the most basic pieces of his own inquiry.

[old2soon]

         Lets put it this way-I consider myself a decent poker player. Far from an expert But I know Enough to Not git into a poker game with President Donald J. Trump. Also cursed certain I will Not git into a pissin match with POTUS. The one negative that stands out for me is the downing of that Ukrainian airliner and the loss of life. Iran stated the downing was unintentional-gosh i hope so!  20/20 hindsight maybe the airspace should have been cleared prior to missle launches? Figured out a long time ago from his T V show most of his buffoonery is an act. RIDE SAFE.

[Bighead]

         Lets put it this way-I consider myself a decent poker player. Far from an expert But I know Enough to Not git into a poker game with President Donald J. Trump. Also cursed certain I will Not git into a pissin match with POTUS. The one negative that stands out for me is the downing of that Ukrainian airliner and the loss of life. Iran stated the downing was unintentional-gosh i hope so!  20/20 hindsight maybe the airspace should have been cleared prior to missle launches? Figured out a long time ago from his T V show most of his buffoonery is an act. RIDE SAFE.

Dennis the question is, is why in the hell was there a commercial airline even trying to fly during a time when missles were being launched in the country? Dont make sense to anyone with a touch of common sense. 

[scooperhsd]

The Iranians screwed up and didn't close their airspace to commercial air traffic. As far as the actual missile shooting - some J.O or enlisted operating the firecontrol got over anxious with tensions escalated and did not verify his target before firing. We (the US) have had a screwup like that too. (USN shot down a commercial airliner before).

[F6Dave]

The Iranians screwed up and didn't close their airspace to commercial air traffic. As far as the actual missile shooting - some J.O or enlisted operating the firecontrol got over anxious with tensions escalated and did not verify his target before firing. We (the US) have had a screwup like that too. (USN shot down a commercial airliner before).

Was that in 1988 near the end of Reagan's presidency?  As I remember the US quickly apologized and paid reparations.

[Serk]

(USN shot down a commercial airliner before).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

[Robert]

Wow,      we dont have some in the US respect the flag, but the Iranians do. This is just nuts how reversed the world is today. How is it that Iranians know and say to not disrespect the flag of a nation but people like Colin dont get it.

I would say its a victory for Trump and the US as a whole.



Iranian People Refuse To Walk On Israeli, American Flag, Chant Enemy Is Not America, Enemy Is Iranian Government

https://twitter.com/mohmd_mozafari/status/1216303243829170178/video/1

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1216340850227150848/video/1

Muslim scholar on Iranians protesting shot down plane: 'This regime, for the first time ever, is seriously threatened'

https://www.foxnews.com/media/muslim-scholar-on-iranians-protesting-regime-over-plane-being-shot-down


This is the incredible moment hundreds of Iranian students refuse to step on the American and Israeli flags amid anti-government marches in the country and a warning to its leaders from Donald Trump to 'not kill protesters'.

The clip taken at Shaheed Beheshti University on Sunday shows crowds deliberately avoiding walking over the Stars and Stripes and the Star of David before furiously berating those that do.

Ali Khamenei's regime is said to have painted the flags at the main entrance of the university for students to walk over as a sign of disrespect.

In 2016, Iranian professor Sadegh Zibakalam, who has avoided walking on the flags in the past, said: 'It is a sign of disrespect toward that nation. Placing the flag of a country on the ground and stepping on it is an error, a sign of disrespect toward that nation.'