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Alberta Patriot
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« on: January 19, 2020, 07:50:55 PM »

Carl Benjamin's "Akkad Daily" Channel gets it exactly right in my opinion. Why does someone from Britain get it better than roughly half of America:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w0Ox9psNhI
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2020, 07:58:53 PM »

Yep TDS runs rampant and has since he beat the queen. Also likely will for the next 5 years also 2funny
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2020, 08:12:27 PM »

The "Solemn Parade Event" that delivered the articles of impeachment to the senate's door, while only moments before they were handing out commemorative pens celebrating the event. That would be laughable if it wasn't such a morally corrupt travesty.
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2020, 08:14:06 PM »

The "Solemn Parade Event" that delivered the articles of impeachment to the senate's door, while only moment before they were handing out commemorative pens celebrating the event. It would be laughable if it wasn't such a morally corrupt travesty.
Not to worry it is all show. The bastards qnd bitches got nothin.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2020, 08:39:42 PM »

I am really hoping the Trump Legal Team "grills to a cinder" the two Bidens and Adam Schiff on the witness stand for all the world to see. CNN wouldn't be able to omit the events of that Senate trial, like all the other news events they have buried that would have exposed Democrat corruption.
To be realistic, I am guessing that is probably too much to hope for.
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2020, 08:46:48 PM »

I am really hoping the Trump Legal Team "grills to a cinder" the two Bidens and Adam Schiff on the witness stand for all world to see. CNN won't be able to omit the events of that Senate trial, like all the other news events they have buried that would have exposed Democrat corruption.
To be realistic, I am guessing that is probably too much to hope for.





KEEP HOPE ALIVE. but probably less than 1% would believe anything other people hannMEM
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2020, 09:40:20 PM »

More than half of American exactly gets it.

But diehard leftist Dem's (politicians, voters and most importantly mainstream media) don't care about truth, justice or the American way, they just want his head any way they can get it.  Including lying, cheating, stealing, bribing, paying or just anything at all.  They'd like you to think it's from righteous moral indignation, but really it reeks of pure desperation (since there is not one thing moral about them at all).  

And this in the face of pure objective evidence showing Trump has benefited the nation and our people in many different ways (jobs, unemployment, trade, economy, military, energy, taxes, foreign affairs, NATO, and more).  And also in the face of the fact that he is NOT a real conservative, and always willing to deal, and they could probably have secured many things they wanted, things many of us true conservatives wound not have liked.  But they will cut off their own noses to spite their faces rather than working with the man on anything at all.

The entire term-long TDS impeachment frenzy is itself an orchestrated corruption on a grand scale, and intended to upend the essential element of a free and fair election.  And certainly a direct violation of their oaths to suport and defend the constitution.

How any honest citizen in this country cannot see this is beyond me.  Maybe you voted for Hillary, and you don't like Trump or his platform/policy, but how do you buy this never ending witch hunt, especially after a long drawn out ($34 million) Mueller investigation got you nothing?  And the current impeachment stuff, IS nothing.  These cases would be laughed out of any legitimate courthouse, but not the congressional funhouse.  

To me, it's nothing but a clear admission that the Dem's have no clear policy or platform to run on.  Other than a long list of vote buying programs hidden as leftist dogma, the hate-Trump plan is all they have, and all they have done for his entire term.

It is without a doubt one of the strangest chapters in our entire history.  And it should by all rights sink them politically, but it won't.  And of course that's why they keep rowing the boat, going nowhere, doing nothing, wasting time and money, creating hate and discontent and division, and making a mockery of our republic.  And not for the benefit of our republic or people, but only for the benefit of their party and their own political careers.

When Nancy, Shiff and Co did their majestic walk from the House to Senate chamber with their Arc of the Covenant-Holy Grail of Impeachment document (and pens), what they were carrying was a satin pillow with nothing but a giant turd on it.  And that turd is the sum and substance of everything they have accomplished for three years.  And boy were they proud of it.

And they should be made to eat it.  
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2020, 07:00:23 PM »

I am really hoping the Trump Legal Team "grills to a cinder" the two Bidens and Adam Schiff on the witness stand for all world to see. CNN wouldn't be able to omit the events of that Senate trial, like all the other news events they have buried that would have exposed Democrat corruption.
To be realistic, I am guessing that is probably too much to hope for.

First off....it amazes me that you " get it " better than too many Americans do. Well done,sir!
Secondly, about the quote above...... You can hope all you want but I do believe it is nothing more than a show and the American public will NEVER see either of the Bidens on trial, EVER!
Am becoming a firm believer that there really is a class of folks in this country that is truly above the law.......sad isn't it!
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2020, 07:20:40 PM »


    Impeachment leader Adam Schiff makes not-so-subtle appeal to Chief Justice Roberts to veto any Hunter Biden testimony. 'The chief justice…should not permit that.' From CBS: https://t.co/kt0eaZjT8x pic.twitter.com/FnxPP3xKgH

    — Byron York (@ByronYork) January 21, 2020


Part 1: Obama Gave Soleimani Amnesty In The Iran Deal
https://youtu.be/GpWsXZkh9ng

Part 2: Obama Gave Soleimani Amnesty In The Iran Deal
https://youtu.be/AUWQGMxp0ZU

Seems the true story about Benghazi was about to be revealed.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2020, 07:25:16 PM »

That guy needs to fall down a flight of stairs.... so bad.  (not the Chief Justice)
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2020, 04:50:26 AM »

That guy needs to fall down a flight of stairs.... so bad.  (not the Chief Justice)
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2020, 05:24:28 AM »

There is underlying damage that has already been done by the leading Democrats in the House and Senate. They have already placed the seeds to germinate to bear fruit in the future. What Schiff and Schumer have schemed together has pit in place the ability to forever question, challenge and impeach along party lines the president for reasons which are not criminal but stem from a political adversary and personality disdain.

The House found reasons to impeach and submit articles of impeachment to the Senate based on nothing criminal. The House chose to bypass common legal procedures and processes by pointing a finger and proclaiming  “he’s a witch” let’s try him by using the court of public opinion and burn him at the stake and if the Senate was controlled by the Democrats that is exactly what would have happened.

The seeds of injustice have been sown, there’s no turning back. The process has now been laid out to be used in the future and it has been met with only an approximate 50% resistance, all it will need is some fine tuning. The use of media, falsehoods, accusations and half truths along with proficient public speakers has shown that half the people will follow, believe and accept “politicized truths” as facts and permit the Constitution to be circumvented on a as needed basis. What the Democrats have initiated here will have permanent repercussions opening the door to forever question and possibly reduce and rescind powers of The President as well as possibly remove a sitting POTUS.

The Democrats have flipped the premise of innocent until proven guilty to guilty until proven innocent and have shown the power of constant persistent accusations against a political adversary can sway the court of public opinion to their side which the public will overlook an abuse of whatever means necessary to achieve a suitable and successful outcome for their party.

As a country we are approaching a political point of no return...a precipice in politics which has the power and ability to change the course of our nation for the worse as well as the course of history. The House  has already demonstrated its willingness and ability to skew facts, shape it into a fishing expedition and mislead the public on a regular basis.

This situation of a partisan impeachment leading to a potential partisan dismal or acquittal is not what the nation needs to set in motion. These proceedings have already driven a wedge deep into our nation which have done more harm than good from which we may never recover.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2020, 05:41:00 AM »



The House found reasons to impeach and submit articles of impeachment to the Senate based on nothing criminal. The House chose to bypass common legal procedures and processes
Obstruction of Congress is a crime. Withholding monies passed by Congress for personal gain is a crime. Impeachment proceedings are legal procedures and processes spelled forth in the Constitution.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2020, 06:08:29 AM »

Trump's 'crime' was that he did it in everyone's face.  He didn't care who knew.  Most politician's do this kind of thing behind closed doors.
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2020, 06:24:11 AM »



The House found reasons to impeach and submit articles of impeachment to the Senate based on nothing criminal. The House chose to bypass common legal procedures and processes
Obstruction of Congress is a crime. Withholding monies passed by Congress for personal gain is a crime. Impeachment proceedings are legal procedures and processes spelled forth in the Constitution.

 If that was the case Obama should have been impeached over the Fast and Furious scandal. Eric Holder was charged with Obstruction of Congress.  The difference between Trump and Obama is people didn't die due to what Trump allegedly did. But people did die over what Obama did. Remember Brian Terry. You know the boarder agent killed as a result of Obama and Holders actions. Not to mention Benghazi....
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2020, 06:54:26 AM »



The House found reasons to impeach and submit articles of impeachment to the Senate based on nothing criminal. The House chose to bypass common legal procedures and processes
Obstruction of Congress is a crime. Withholding monies passed by Congress for personal gain is a crime. Impeachment proceedings are legal procedures and processes spelled forth in the Constitution.

The intention of my post wasn’t meant to spur a debate on the reasons for impeachment, I believe those have been hashed out here many times. I will say this though, I have looked at as much information as I possibly could to come to a conclusion. I’ve looked at both sides to try and find a suitable reason to impeach and cannot see any evidence of obstruction and/or “high crimes and misdemeanors” The House is proclaiming but by no means am I an expert on The US Constitution though I wish I was.

My thoughts are mainly directed toward the process which these proceedings have taken place and the potential harm they will cause our nation in the future.

My belief of a biased partisan impeachment is detrimental to all 3 branches of our government and their futures as well as the potential to trickle down throughout all of our courts and their procedures and process. Without common ground there cannot be growth or national success, only division appears to be the outcome. As Lincoln said “A house divided against itself cannot stand” and I believe this is what has been initiated with these partisan proceedings.
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2020, 07:16:29 AM »



The House found reasons to impeach and submit articles of impeachment to the Senate based on nothing criminal. The House chose to bypass common legal procedures and processes
Obstruction of Congress is a crime. Withholding monies passed by Congress for personal gain is a crime. Impeachment proceedings are legal procedures and processes spelled forth in the Constitution.

When it comes to the Executive Branch, Obstruction of Congress isn't criminal. It can't be unless Congress is backed by the Judicial Branch. All Branches are equal. Can Congress criminally obstruct the President? Of course not. Further, this is just obstruction of Democrats not Congress.

As to withholding monies, Ukraine received the aid. Nothing was gained. The withholding was temporary and the Ukraine had just elected a new President. I would think a review of the aid would be in order. Foreign relations is the purvue of the President. That is spelled forth in the Constitution too.

Impeachment proceedings are legal procedures and the processes are spelled forth in the Constitution as well as the standards as in "Bribery, treason, High Crimes and misdemeanors" We don't even have a law or US code violation in either of the Articles of Impeachment. NO CRIMES ARE ENUMERATED IN THE ARTICLES. NONE.

"We don't like him" is not cause for impeachment.

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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2020, 07:33:37 AM »

Lest some "forget"

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/09/video-of-a-bragging-biden-trading-1-billion-in-ukraine-aid-for-official-firing-resurfaces-amid-trump-flap/
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2020, 07:48:22 AM »



The House found reasons to impeach and submit articles of impeachment to the Senate based on nothing criminal. The House chose to bypass common legal procedures and processes
Obstruction of Congress is a crime. Withholding monies passed by Congress for personal gain is a crime. Impeachment proceedings are legal procedures and processes spelled forth in the Constitution.

Obstruction of Congress is a crime.   President Trump DID NOT DO THAT!!!
Withholding monies passed by Congress for personal gain.    President Trump DID NOT DO THAT!!!

how is it you do not understand that and the laws?  CNN is not telling you the law.
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2020, 08:12:11 AM »



The House found reasons to impeach and submit articles of impeachment to the Senate based on nothing criminal. The House chose to bypass common legal procedures and processes
Obstruction of Congress is a crime. Withholding monies passed by Congress for personal gain is a crime. Impeachment proceedings are legal procedures and processes spelled forth in the Constitution.

When it comes to the Executive Branch, Obstruction of Congress isn't criminal. It can't be unless Congress is backed by the Judicial Branch. All Branches are equal. Can Congress criminally obstruct the President? Of course not. Further, this is just obstruction of Democrats not Congress.

As to withholding monies, Ukraine received the aid. Nothing was gained. The withholding was temporary and the Ukraine had just elected a new President. I would think a review of the aid would be in order. Foreign relations is the purvue of the President. That is spelled forth in the Constitution too.

Impeachment proceedings are legal procedures and the processes are spelled forth in the Constitution as well as the standards as in "Bribery, treason, High Crimes and misdemeanors" We don't even have a law or US code violation in either of the Articles of Impeachment. NO CRIMES ARE ENUMERATED IN THE ARTICLES. NONE.

"We don't like him" is not cause for impeachment.

Best summary I've read sir.  

The chief executive has the statutory and inherent power to do everything the president did.  Both in dealing with Ukraine, and in dealing with Congress.  He has the power (and maybe even the duty if he feels he is acting the the country's or the presidency's best interest) to obstruct congress, unless a court makes him comply with some order.  They couldn't win in court and didn't go, so he didn't violate any lawful order.  His actions with congress were not only protected in his own lawful due process defense (he is entitled to defend himself), but in defense of presidential power against an overreaching congress.

The offenses alleged are not crimes or misconduct, and no amount of proof, conjecture or argument about the president's personal motives or intent (as alleged) in exercising his lawful authority can make them crimes.  And this argument is the whole SMEAR in this case. 

I wish Roberts could just raise his hand and explain this to everyone.  But he must also protect an independent judiciary and will probably only speak when spoken to.  

The founders did a great job, but I wish they had done a better job with high crimes and misdemeanors.  And maybe added a sentence that pure partisan politics could never be the basis for any impeachment.

There's a lot of strategy going on in this sh!tshow on both sides.  The winning side does not want to appear to be a rubber stamp to the country, and there is benefit to be had by allowing the Dems to flounder and flail for awhile.  But not for months.  If (when) the vote in the senate trial is decided exactly on party lines, it will be proof that the impeachment was purely partisan politics for party power, and not for constitutional reasons.  

And then on to November.  


 
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2020, 08:13:04 AM »



The House found reasons to impeach and submit articles of impeachment to the Senate based on nothing criminal. The House chose to bypass common legal procedures and processes
Obstruction of Congress is a crime. Withholding monies passed by Congress for personal gain is a crime. Impeachment proceedings are legal procedures and processes spelled forth in the Constitution.

Obstruction of Congress is a crime.   President Trump DID NOT DO THAT!!!
Withholding monies passed by Congress for personal gain.    President Trump DID NOT DO THAT!!!

how is it you do not understand that and the laws?  CNN is not telling you the law.
Certain people do certain things like watching too much CNN.
I watched that 78 day Kangaroo Event from the Great White North...directly, not through the twisted lense of the MSM.
Nothing about what the Democrats did was Constitutional. Trump was never allowed Counsel or the opportunity to face his phoney third party accusers.
Certain people here form opinions and spew conjecture with their eyes wide shut. You don't have to be a lawyer to have a meaningful understanding of how the right to due process and the Constitution work.
What Andrew Weissmann( Mueller "investigation") did to General Flynn could happen to any one of you, and that should scare the hell out of anyone who is paying attention to what is going on right now. It is a damn good thing that Republicans hold the majority in the senate. Those of you who want 65M votes erased better remember that the shoe will be on the other foot some day, and you won't like it!!

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/02/andrew_weissmann_robert_muellers_dirty_cop.html
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2020, 08:21:41 AM »



The House found reasons to impeach and submit articles of impeachment to the Senate based on nothing criminal. The House chose to bypass common legal procedures and processes
Obstruction of Congress is a crime. Withholding monies passed by Congress for personal gain is a crime. Impeachment proceedings are legal procedures and processes spelled forth in the Constitution.

When it comes to the Executive Branch, Obstruction of Congress isn't criminal. It can't be unless Congress is backed by the Judicial Branch. All Branches are equal. Can Congress criminally obstruct the President? Of course not. Further, this is just obstruction of Democrats not Congress.

As to withholding monies, Ukraine received the aid. Nothing was gained. The withholding was temporary and the Ukraine had just elected a new President. I would think a review of the aid would be in order. Foreign relations is the purvue of the President. That is spelled forth in the Constitution too.

Impeachment proceedings are legal procedures and the processes are spelled forth in the Constitution as well as the standards as in "Bribery, treason, High Crimes and misdemeanors" We don't even have a law or US code violation in either of the Articles of Impeachment. NO CRIMES ARE ENUMERATED IN THE ARTICLES. NONE.

"We don't like him" is not cause for impeachment.

Best summary I've read sir.   

The chief executive has the statutory and inherent power to do everything the president did.  Both in dealing with Ukraine, and in dealing with Congress.  He has the power (and maybe even the duty if he feels he is acting the the country's or the presidency's best interest) to obstruct congress, unless a court makes him comply with some order.  They couldn't win in court and didn't go, so he didn't violate any lawful order.  His actions with congress were not only protected in his own lawful due process defense (he is entitled to defend himself), but in defense of presidential power against an overreaching congress.

The offenses alleged are not crimes or misconduct, and no amount of proof about the president's personal motives or intent (as alleged) in exercising his lawful authority can make them crimes. 

I wish Roberts could just raise his hand and explain this to everyone.  But he must also protect an independent judiciary and will probably only speak when spoken to. 

The founders did a great job, but I wish they had done a better job with high crimes and misdemeanors.  And maybe added a sentence that pure partisan politics could never be the basis for any impeachment.

There's a lot of strategy going on in this sh!tshow on both sides.  The winning side does not want to appear to be a rubber stamp to the country, and there is benefit to be had by allowing the Dems to flounder and flail for awhile.  But not for months.  If (when) the vote in the senate trial is decided exactly on party lines, it will be proof that the impeachment was purely partisan politics for party power, and not for constitutional reasons. 

And then on to November.   


 

Both excellent statements and to the heart of the matter.  And this is what far right wing lawyer  Alan Dershowitz will be presenting when the Presidents counsel gets to present his case in the coming days, and much like Dershowitz has been stating for a few months now.
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2020, 01:29:33 PM »

While I didn't watch it, I did notice Adam Schiff spent 2 1/2 hours on the Senate floor stating the case of Impeachment for Trump.

If it takes more than 5 minutes to make such a case, you lose. Either the crime obviously rises to that level or it doesn't. And it doesn't. Not even a blip's worth. No crime at all.

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