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Author Topic: So how HOT are you really?  (Read 666 times)
98valk
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« on: January 21, 2020, 09:59:00 AM »

https://elifesciences.org/articles/49555

Decreasing human body temperature in the United States since the Industrial Revolution

In 1851, the German physician Carl Reinhold August Wunderlich obtained millions of axillary temperatures from 25,000 patients in Leipzig, thereby establishing the standard for normal human body temperature of 37°C or 98.6 °F (range: 36.2–37.5°C [97.2- 99.5 °F]) (Mackowiak, 1997; Wunderlich and Sequin, 1871). A compilation of 27 modern studies, however (Sund-Levander et al., 2002), reported mean temperature to be uniformly lower than Wunderlich’s estimate. Recently, an analysis of more than 35,000 British patients with almost 250,000 temperature measurements, found mean oral temperature to be 36.6°C, confirming this lower value (Obermeyer et al., 2017). Remaining unanswered is whether the observed difference between Wunderlich’s and modern averages represents true change or bias from either the method of obtaining temperature (axillary by Wunderlich vs. oral today) or the quality of thermometers and their calibration (Mackowiak, 1997). Wunderlich obtained his measurements in an era when life expectancy was 38 years and untreated chronic infections such as tuberculosis, syphilis, and periodontitis afflicted large proportions of the population (Murray et al., 2015; Tampa et al., 2014; Richmond, 2014). These infectious diseases and other causes of chronic inflammation may well have influenced the ‘normal’ body temperature of that era.

The question of whether mean body temperature is changing over time is not merely a matter of idle curiosity. Human body temperature is a crude surrogate for basal metabolic rate which, in turn, has been linked to both longevity (higher metabolic rate, shorter life span) and body size (lower metabolism, greater body mass). We speculated that the differences observed in temperature between the 19th century and today are real and that the change over time provides important physiologic clues to alterations in human health and longevity since the Industrial Revolution.
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Moonshot_1
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2020, 11:42:30 AM »

There are numerous studies about the human body temperature. One of the more provocative ones concerns proximity stimuli. The data suggests surges in the normal temperature in the human (in this case study, the male body) when in proximity to certain stimuli.

I do believe that the evidence also shows that for the female of the species the data is more than suggestive that even at normal temperatures, they can be extremely hot.



A case in point.


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Mike Luken 
 

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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2020, 12:07:20 PM »

Thermodynamics anyone??

This would help explain global warming...I do blame Oss....for the secretary interview candidates from the previous post!  Evil 2funny
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2020, 12:13:26 PM »

All I know is after living in Florida for 53 years and now living in the Green Bay area....I'm freezing my ass off.  Angry
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2020, 03:00:02 PM »

not one of my pics

by the way  PHOTOSTASH for VRCC is down
so I can not access any of my audition pics

can't connect to server

Hope this is temporary as we are due for a bikini parade
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2020, 03:06:15 PM »

not one of my pics

by the way  PHOTOSTASH for VRCC is down
so I can not access any of my audition pics

can't connect to server

Hope this is temporary as we are due for a bikini parade

A "Go Fund Me" account must be immediately set up to fix the server. IMMEDIATELY!
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Mike Luken 
 

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2020, 03:36:07 PM »

not one of my pics

by the way  PHOTOSTASH for VRCC is down
so I can not access any of my audition pics

can't connect to server

Hope this is temporary as we are due for a bikini parade

we're ALWAYS due for a bikini parade Smiley
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Willow
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2020, 03:47:17 PM »

not one of my pics

by the way  PHOTOSTASH for VRCC is down
so I can not access any of my audition pics

can't connect to server

Hope this is temporary as we are due for a bikini parade

we're ALWAYS due for a bikini parade Smiley

Well, not all of us.  I find them juvenile at best and at worst insulting to some of our members.   Angry
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Oss
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2020, 04:49:28 PM »

I can respect that (although I don't get it) and that is why RJ would always email or PM me his
pics and movies.  I post no nudie pics, never have.

But why is photostash down? or is it just my computers that cant get to the server?
Oss

Carl you do realize that some members get pretty hot and bothered looking at those calendar pics you sell

 Wink
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2020, 06:25:11 AM »

Carl you do realize that some members get pretty hot and bothered looking at those calendar pics you sell

 Wink
Thankfully, one requirement for VRCC calendar pics is that no riders be shown.  Cool
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0leman
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2020, 08:01:04 AM »

As far as body temps goes, one has to consider that improvements in ways to take temps might be the reason.  Also that maybe there wasn't enough normal folks in original study.  Who knows if location also plays part in it.  folks living in northern regions as apposed to those living in more warmer places.  Though my body temp has always be almost a degree below the "normal" even though  my metabolisms has always been high.

I do appreciate the visual stimulation that appears on this site every so often, especially this time of year.  Kind of cold and snowy here.
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