Coronavirus $hit be getting real

[98valk]

https://www.analyzingamerica.org/white-house-adviser-goes-rogue-drops-explosive-hit-on-fauci-claiming-hes-been-wrong-about-everything-opinion/?utm_source=myc

[Robert]

Fauci knew about the virus, helped setup the Chinese lab, works with Gates and Soros and is helping the research a vaccine, way over predicted the numbers, continues to hold people back and the economy also. You might say Fauci gave the excuse to shut down the economy.

There is no soaring numbers either or overloaded hospitals.

[markymark640]

This is what I found on Fauci

He is an American physician and immunologist who has served as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) since 1984

As a physician with the National Institutes of Health (NIH), Fauci has served American public health in various capacities for over 50 years, and has been an advisor to every U.S. president since Ronald Reagan.

He has turned down several offers to lead his agency's parent, the NIH, and has been at the forefront of U.S. efforts to contend with viral diseases like HIV/AIDS, SARS, the 2009 swine flu pandemic, MERS, Ebola and COVID-19.

He played a significant role in the early 2000s in creating the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief[12] and in driving development of biodefense drugs and vaccines following the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Fauci was one of the leading researchers during the AIDS epidemic in the early 1980s.

He said that the final case fatality rate of those who are infected will likely be closer to 1% than the 3.4% estimated by the World Health Organization, which is ten times the 0.1% reported rate for seasonal flu.

Due to his disagreements with Trump, Fauci has been criticised by right-wing pundits and received death threats that resulted in the need for a security detail.

Fauci married Christine Grady, a nurse and bioethicist with the NIH, in 1985, after they met while treating a patient. Grady is chief of the Department of Bioethics at the National Institutes of Health Clinical Center.

Grady is a member of the National Academy of Medicine, a senior fellow at the Kennedy Institute of Ethics, and a fellow of The Hastings Center and American Academy of Nursing.[1] She received the National Institutes of Health CEO Award in 2017 and the Director's Award from the same organization in 2015 and 2017.

She earned a  PhD in philosophy and bioethics from Georgetown University in 1993.

Grady has worked in nursing, clinical research, and clinical care, with a specialization in HIV.[1] She was a Commissioner on the Presidential Commission for the Study of Bioethical Issues from 2010 and 2017.

Grady is a member of the National Academy of Medicine, a senior fellow at the Kennedy Institute of Ethics, and a fellow of The Hastings Center and American Academy of Nursing.[1] She received the National Institutes of Health CEO Award in 2017 and the Director's Award from the same organization in 2015 and 2017.

[markymark640]

Fauci knew about the virus, helped setup the Chinese lab, works with Gates and Soros and is helping the research a vaccine, way over predicted the numbers, continues to hold people back and the economy also. You might say Fauci gave the excuse to shut down the economy.

There is no soaring numbers either or overloaded hospitals.

Robert, are you seriously saying there are no soaring numbers of new infections and/or overloaded hospitals ?

Have you seen the numbers reported by Florida, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Texas, etc ?

These are numbers from the individual States Health Departments with nothing to do with Fauci !

What about the 500 plus military people that have gone in overloaded hospitals to help ?

Are you going to say that isn't real either ?

[Robert]

Glad to see you are looking into him


BRYAN FISCHER
Fauci knew about HCQ in 2005 -- nobody needed to die

Dr. Anthony Fauci, whose “expert” advice to President Trump has resulted in the complete shutdown of the greatest economic engine in world history, has known since 2005 that chloroquine is an effective inhibitor of coronaviruses.

How did he know this? Because of research done by the National Institutes of Health, of which he is the director.
Said Dr. Fauci’s NIH in 2005, “concentrations of 10 μM completely abolished SARS-CoV infection.” Fauci’s researchers add, “chloroquine can effectively reduce the establishment of infection and spread of SARS-CoV.”

Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/

[Robert]

Fauci knew about the virus, helped setup the Chinese lab, works with Gates and Soros and is helping the research a vaccine, way over predicted the numbers, continues to hold people back and the economy also. You might say Fauci gave the excuse to shut down the economy.

There is no soaring numbers either or overloaded hospitals.

Robert, are you seriously saying there are no soaring numbers of new infections and/or overloaded hospitals ?

Have you seen the numbers reported by Florida, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, Texas, etc ?

These are numbers from the individual States Health Departments with nothing to do with Fauci !

What about the 500 plus military people that have gone in overloaded hospitals to help ?

Are you going to say that isn't real either ?

Read some of the previous posts much of your concern is already addressed at least the previous page and stop looking at the regular media outlets.

[markymark640]

I think you might want to find some reliable sources.

I work in a hospital in Georgia.

I have FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE that cases are rising and hospitals are being taken to the limit.

[Robert]

I think you might want to find some reliable sources.

I work in a hospital in Georgia.

I have FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE that cases are rising and hospitals are being taken to the limit.

OK cases are rising or testing is rising and death rates are down, so what are you seeing? Are you overloaded, how many hospitals in your area and how many are working to capacity? How many beds in each area and do you have an area devoted to covid, or a whole floor. Has your hospital closed elective surgeries down? What are you seeing as a death rate, or are most going home.

My friend and his wife had it, she was over it in a day and he was hit pretty hard but is now getting over it with no side effects.

I trust my sources, but I would like to know more from you.

New York City reports zero new deaths from Covid-19 for the ...



Georgia is simiar to Florida with 3000 deaths and while the infected is up and from increased testing the cure rate is about 95 percent or higher something that has not been published before. I have not heard to many on ventilators either.

It should not be hard to find the stats in Georgia. I have a few Dr friends in Georgia I will give them a call.

[markymark640]

I wouldn't trust your sources.

I find first hand information much more reliable than the information the media puts out. So many left or right leaning BS articles out there, based on politics and not concerned with the human element, the suffering and the dying.

I have first hand knowledge in Georgia, a daughter in Pensacola Florida, and a colleague in Alabama. I obviously trust my daughter and a colleague I've known and worked with since 1979.

Georgia, Florida and Alabama do in fact have seriously rising numbers of infections and hospitalizations.
And I have no doubt the numbers are also soaring in other states as reported.

And I can tell you for a fact, that the current situation is so serious that the Military is sending resources, approx 740 people, to help in the hardest hit areas in Texas and California.

As a retired military man (22 years Army) I can also tell you that the services (Army, Air Force, Marines, etc) are also seeing a very significant rise in new cases. I know several people that work at Army Hospitals and they tell me they are seeing a drastic increase in new cases.

More than 4,100 service members have tested positive for COVID-19 since July 1, according to Pentagon statistics  ( Source - Army Times )
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/07/14/soldiers-sailors-airmen-sent-to-help-fema-with-covid-19-response-in-texas-and-california/

[Robert]

I wouldn't trust your sources.

I find first hand information much more reliable than the information the media puts out. So many left or right leaning BS articles out there, based on politics and not concerned with the human element, the suffering and the dying.

I have first hand knowledge in Georgia, a daughter in Pensacola Florida, and a colleague in Alabama. I obviously trust my daughter and a colleague I've known and worked with since 1979.

Georgia, Florida and Alabama do in fact have seriously rising numbers of infections and hospitalizations.
And I have no doubt the numbers are also soaring in other states as reported.

And I can tell you for a fact, that the current situation is so serious that the Military is sending resources, approx 740 people, to help in the hardest hit areas in Texas and California.

As a retired military man (22 years Army) I can also tell you that the services (Army, Air Force, Marines, etc) are also seeing a very significant rise in new cases. I know several people that work at Army Hospitals and they tell me they are seeing a drastic increase in new cases.

More than 4,100 service members have tested positive for COVID-19 since July 1, according to Pentagon statistics  ( Source - Army Times )
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/07/14/soldiers-sailors-airmen-sent-to-help-fema-with-covid-19-response-in-texas-and-california/

The severity of symptoms in varying degrees have not resulted in deaths. The awareness of Covid has resulted in diagnosing the symptoms early and saving lives. The treatment and diagnosing quickly was paramount to this.

Ventilators have not been in limited supply and have not been needed the first fear and knee jerk response. Patients that died or have extended hospital stays has been limited. Hospitalizations have been more the in and out mostly for observation rather than prolonged stay and die in the hospital. The numbers support this and my personal experience supports this.

In all the articles in all the hospitals I have been to I do not find the resources of any hospital being put to the max. In fact pay cuts has been the norm, hospital closings we have seen also.

I want to ask you, what has been the cure rate you and your daughter have seen? Have they come in and died or gone home and in what percentage? You do not mention this at all and give some pretty vague information. You are big on infection rates but what about cure rates, or even severity rates, sometimes being the trenches we don't look at the results and can only see our immediate situation. Kind of like the ones that put this economy through hell for numbers that were way off the mark.


BTW, CDC numbers verify most of the information given.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

New York City reports zero new deaths from Covid-19 for the first time in months THE MAYOR

The test positivity rate in New York City is now at 2%.

Preparedness and awareness does not translate into numbers, ie ventilators and projections and do not translate to actual circumstances. This preparedness and projections by doctors is what closed down the economy with false numbers. We have to be prepared we dont have to live in fear, and have to take each day as it comes.

[Valkorado]

It is what it is.  It's a turd dropped from China and it leaves behind nothing good in its wake -- Including illness, death and economic devastation.

I've never seen someone try to polish a turd as diligently as you are with this one.  

[98valk]

I wouldn't trust your sources.

I find first hand information much more reliable than the information the media puts out. So many left or right leaning BS articles out there, based on politics and not concerned with the human element, the suffering and the dying.

I have first hand knowledge in Georgia, a daughter in Pensacola Florida, and a colleague in Alabama. I obviously trust my daughter and a colleague I've known and worked with since 1979.

Georgia, Florida and Alabama do in fact have seriously rising numbers of infections and hospitalizations.
And I have no doubt the numbers are also soaring in other states as reported.

And I can tell you for a fact, that the current situation is so serious that the Military is sending resources, approx 740 people, to help in the hardest hit areas in Texas and California.

As a retired military man (22 years Army) I can also tell you that the services (Army, Air Force, Marines, etc) are also seeing a very significant rise in new cases. I know several people that work at Army Hospitals and they tell me they are seeing a drastic increase in new cases.

More than 4,100 service members have tested positive for COVID-19 since July 1, according to Pentagon statistics  ( Source - Army Times )
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/07/14/soldiers-sailors-airmen-sent-to-help-fema-with-covid-19-response-in-texas-and-california/

the tests are fake. all they are doing is building a national DNA database. the body is loaded with viruses.

https://www.weblyf.com/2020/05/coronavirus-the-truth-about-pcr-test-kit-from-the-inventor-and-other-experts/

According to Jason Hommel, a prolific writer and researcher and also the author of the very important article regarding coronavirus testing entitled “Scientists Say the COVID19 Test Kits Do Not Work, Are Worthless, and Give Impossible Results”:

“PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome. The problem is the test is known not to work. It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analysed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery. Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.”

Asked by Farber what his advice for people who want to be tested for COVID-19, he replied:

“Don’t do it, I say, when people ask me. No healthy person should be tested. It means nothing but it can destroy your life, make you absolutely miserable. Every time somebody takes a swab, a tissue sample of their DNA, it goes into a government database. It’s to track us. They’re not just looking for the virus. Please put that in your article.”

He added:

“PCR for diagnosis is a big problem. When you have to amplify it these huge numbers of time, it’s going to generate massive amounts of false positives. Again, I’m skeptical that a PCR test is ever true.”

human body has over 300 trillion viruses. so yea everybody will test positive for a virus
https://www.inverse.com/article/49747-what-is-the-human-virome

It has been estimated that there are over 380 trillion viruses inhabiting us, a community collectively known as the human virome. But these viruses are not the dangerous ones you commonly hear about, like those that cause the flu or the common cold, or more sinister infections like Ebola or dengue. Many of these viruses infect the bacteria that live inside you and are known as bacteriophages, or phages for short. The human body is a breeding ground for phages, and despite their abundance, we have very little insight into what all they or any of the other viruses in the body are doing.

I am a physician-scientist studying the human microbiome by focusing on viruses,

see my post about testing is to build up the DNA data base for UN and National Data bases.

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,111064.0.html

[Robert]

COVID-19 was very different thanks to a single “buggy mess” of a computer prediction from one Neil Ferguson, a British epidemiologist given to hysterical overestimates of deaths, from mad cow to bird flu to H1N1.

For COVID-19, Ferguson predicted 3 million deaths in America unless we basically shut down the economy. Panicked policymakers took his prediction as gospel, dressed as it was in the cloak of science.

Now, long after governments plunged half the world into a Great Depression, those panicked revisions are being quietly revised down by an order of magnitude, now suggesting a final tally comparable to 1958 and 1969.

This is who the politicians followed to shut down the economy and make decisions based on false projections and not to long from now we will see the real results. These are numbers that will be real and are real and the delayed cost of this.

But what happened to Fauci, Gates and others? Where was their voice of reason and experience? They actually had knowledge and experience with the virus and may have had a hand in creating it. They seem to know about vaccines but don't seem to know much else, it could not be that they will profit from this could it, no, nothing to see here.





In Less Than 14 Days, The Government Will Sever Its $600 Per Week Unemployment Lifeline

Overall delinquency rate, 30-plus days, jumped to 6.1%, up from 3.6% in April last year. This was the highest overall delinquency rate since January 2016 (on the way down).

These delinquency rates are the first real impact seen on the housing market by the worst employment crisis in a lifetime, with over 32 million people claiming state or federal unemployment benefits. There is no way – despite rumors to the contrary – that a housing market sails unscathed through that kind of employment crisis.

40 percent of restaurants that are closed now will close forever.

[Valkorado]

Our President estimates he saved "millions" with his initial lockdown.  That's admittedly debatable.  C19 is still a turd.

[98valk]

COVID-19 was very different thanks to a single “buggy mess” of a computer prediction from one Neil Ferguson, a British epidemiologist given to hysterical overestimates of deaths, from mad cow to bird flu to H1N1.

For COVID-19, Ferguson predicted 3 million deaths in America unless we basically shut down the economy. Panicked policymakers took his prediction as gospel, dressed as it was in the cloak of science.

Now, long after governments plunged half the world into a Great Depression, those panicked revisions are being quietly revised down by an order of magnitude, now suggesting a final tally comparable to 1958 and 1969.

This is who the politicians followed to shut down the economy and make decisions based on false projections and not to long from now we will see the real results. These are numbers that will be real and are real and the delayed cost of this.

But what happened to Fauci, Gates and others? Where was their voice of reason and experience? They actually had knowledge and experience with the virus and may have had a hand in creating it. They seem to know about vaccines but don't seem to know much else, it could not be that they will profit from this could it, no, nothing to see here.





In Less Than 14 Days, The Government Will Sever Its $600 Per Week Unemployment Lifeline

Overall delinquency rate, 30-plus days, jumped to 6.1%, up from 3.6% in April last year. This was the highest overall delinquency rate since January 2016 (on the way down).

These delinquency rates are the first real impact seen on the housing market by the worst employment crisis in a lifetime, with over 32 million people claiming state or federal unemployment benefits. There is no way – despite rumors to the contrary – that a housing market sails unscathed through that kind of employment crisis.

40 percent of restaurants that are closed now will close forever.

UN 2030 Agenda

so they caused poverty and now want to provide per pelosi bill money in form of unemployment and additional monthly checks into new yr and beyond.

Goal 1) End poverty in all its forms everywhere

Translation: Put everyone on government welfare, food stamps, housing subsidies and handouts that make them obedient slaves to global government. Never allow people upward mobility to help themselves. Instead, teach mass victimization and obedience to a government that provides monthly "allowance" money for basic essentials like food and medicine. Label it "ending poverty."

Goal 3) Ensure healthy lives and promote well-being for all at all ages

Translation: Mandate 100+ vaccines for all children and adults at gunpoint, threatening parents with arrest and imprisonment if they refuse to cooperate. Push heavy medication use on children and teens while rolling out "screening" programs. Call mass medication "prevention" programs and claim they improve the health of citizens.

hmmm, removing history, statues, etc.

Goal 4) Ensure inclusive and equitable quality education and promote lifelong learning opportunities for all

Translation: Push a false history and a dumbed-down education under "Common Core" education standards that produce obedient workers rather than independent thinkers. Never let people learn real history, or else they might realize they don't want to repeat it.

hmmm, taking away the coupled guns they used to protect themselves. lets not forget during the hurricane in new orleans yrs ago, they were going door to door taking peoples guns.  Last I read this actually did happen.

Goal 11) Make cities and human settlements inclusive, safe, resilient and sustainable

Translation: Ban all gun ownership by private citizens, concentrating guns into the hands of obedient government enforcers who rule over an unarmed, enslaved class of impoverished workers. Criminalize living in most rural areas by instituting Hunger Games-style "protected areas" which the government will claim are owned by "the People" even though no people are allowed to live there. Force all humans into densely packed, tightly controlled cities where they are under 24/7 surveillance and subject to easy manipulation by government.

https://www.naturalnews.com/051058_2030_Agenda_United_Nations_global_enslavement.html

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-2030-agenda-this-month-the-un-launches-a-blueprint-for-a-new-world-order-with-the-help-of-the-pope

[Robert]

Our President estimates he saved "millions" with his initial lockdown.  That's admittedly debatable.  C19 is still a turd.

As every one that is left of center said Trump did not want to lockdown or it was to late or a host of other negative things about his response. Now we are seeing that if he had not bowed to public pressure and not gotten Fauci involved and acted as he wanted to it may have actually been better. We certainly would not have the economic problems that were brought on by a false prediction and false fear.

BTW

It may be a turd and I may polish it but at least I put it in its proper place and dont worship it and fear it, I deal with it.

[Valkorado]

There ya go again with the machismo.  You are one baaad dude!

Worship it?  Give me a break.  Fear it?  Not really.  I acknowledge it, and would rather not get it.  I'll try to minimize the chances of infection as much as possible while enjoying my life.

Again those decisions are mine to make and shouldn't be mandated.  Do you have an issue with that?

[f6john]

[Valkorado]

Unfortunately it's not over yet, John.  Heck, it can't even be swept under a rug.   

[Robert]

There ya go again with the machismo.  You are one baaad dude!

Worship it?  Give me a break.  Fear it?  Not really.  I acknowledge it, and would rather not get it.  I'll try to minimize the chances of infection as much as possible while enjoying my life.

Again those decisions are mine to make and shouldn't be mandated.  Do you have an issue with that?

NOPE, none at all, but those who would terrorize others dont see it that way. Never let a crisis go to waste. Not to mention it would be nice to have all the facts, real facts so that we all could make the best decisions and help those who need it. Would be nice to have the things that were brought up here be in the regular news media and the wrong reporting be scrutinized.

[Valkorado]

There ya go again with the machismo.  You are one baaad dude!

Worship it?  Give me a break.  Fear it?  Not really.  I acknowledge it, and would rather not get it.  I'll try to minimize the chances of infection as much as possible while enjoying my life.

Again those decisions are mine to make and shouldn't be mandated.  Do you have an issue with that?

NOPE, none at all, but those who would terrorize others dont see it that way. Never let a crisis go to waste. Not to mention it would be nice to have all the facts, real facts so that we all could make the best decisions and help those who need it. Would be nice to have the things that were brought up here be in the regular news media and the wrong reporting be scrutinized.

  360° scrutiny is good!  There are those who are manipulating data for their own wicked agenda, I don't deny that.  There is also a genuine novel virus spreading around out there.  We've gotta look at it from all angles, without looking through our political shades.  PM sent.

[..]

I've seen quite a few social media posts asking why the USA is the only country suffering from a "second wave".

Coronavirus: 'How we’re surviving a second virus lockdown', From around the world.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-53353748

[markymark640]

You guys can continue to slam the testing numbers all you want.

Yes, they are likely not totally accurate.  Name me one system that does report 100% correct numbers of a national level.

Yes, some people are tested twice.

Yes, Yes, Yes.

SO WHAT !

The undeniable proof is PEOPLE ARE DYING IN GREATER NUMBERS TODAY THAN LAST MONTH

No denying that that.  All you have to do is know or talk to anyone who works at a hospital in Texas, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, California and a few other states and you'll get first hand information that the number of COVID19 patients they are seeing, that are being hospitalized. that are being put in ICU wards are in fact higher now than ever before.

Talking about the death rate in New York at this point of time seems ridiculous. It's not a hot spot right now, and oh by the way, the reason it isn't is because of what ?  Masks and Social Distancing !

[Willow]

... and oh by the way, the reason it isn't is because of what ?  Masks and Social Distancing ! 

Wow!  That's some really long range speculation.  You believe that New Yorkers are now wearing masks more regularly and beginning to adhere to "social distancing"?  Really?  How about herd immunity?  How about the virus runs its course as it would have and it has reached its plateau?

You believe what you choose to.  I don't see any reason to assume what you are assuming. 

[..]

Talking about the death rate in New York at this point of time seems ridiculous. It's not a hot spot right now, and oh by the way, the reason it isn't is because of what ?  Masks and Social Distancing !

maybe the mask wearing , social distancing protesters , looters and rioters are quietly dying at home.

[Bighead]

Markymark I am not here to get into a ball sizing contest. But if you are in the medical field you full well know that a mask does ZERO for the wearer but for people around them. A mask (I laugh at what passes for a mask in public) only protects people from another coughing or sneezing on people around them.
Yes I have been in the medical field for the last 35 yrs and have worn a mask everyday since. But I am not wearing one to protect Me.
The numbers in my hospital has jumped quickly over the last 3 weeks but the death rate has not followed suit. At the beginning of may we had 5 deaths in our County and as of today we are at 13 that is 8 in over 2 months. I agree it is real and does cause problems but the media and others blow it out of proportion and fear sets in and that is not good for anyone.
Plus 9/10 tenths of the people WEARING Masks don’t wear them properly, either their mouth or nose is hanging out whitch is the same as not wearing one so I doubt NYC residents are wearing them properly either.

[Jersey mike]

You guys can continue to slam the testing numbers all you want.

Yes, they are likely not totally accurate.  Name me one system that does report 100% correct numbers of a national level.

Yes, some people are tested twice.

Yes, Yes, Yes.

SO WHAT !

The undeniable proof is PEOPLE ARE DYING IN GREATER NUMBERS TODAY THAN LAST MONTH

No denying that that.  All you have to do is know or talk to anyone who works at a hospital in Texas, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, California and a few other states and you'll get first hand information that the number of COVID19 patients they are seeing, that are being hospitalized. that are being put in ICU wards are in fact higher now than ever before.

Talking about the death rate in New York at this point of time seems ridiculous. It's not a hot spot right now, and oh by the way, the reason it isn't is because of what ?  Masks and Social Distancing !

https://www.theblaze.com/news/covid-19-patients-icu-survival-rates-improving-study

“ New research published in medical journal Anaesthesia reports that a significant decrease in COVID-19 mortality has occurred since the start of the coronavirus pandemic.

Researchers add that the decrease is at least partially due to better hospital care.

The study is based on analysis of 24 studies that involved more than 10,000 patients across Asia, Europe, and North America.

The research, led by Professor Tim Cook of England's Royal United Hospitals Bath, revealed that the overall mortality rate of coronavirus ICU patients fell from approximately 60 percent since the end of March to 42 percent by the end of May.

Cook is also a consultant in anesthesia and intensive care medicine at Royal United Hospitals Bath NHS Foundation Trust.

Cook and other study authors said that "rapid learning that has taken place on a global scale due to the prompt publication of clinical reports early in the pandemic" has impacted the disease's mortality rate for the better.”

Cook, in a statement of his own, said, "The important message is that as the pandemic has progressed and various factors combine, survival of patients admitted to ICU has significantly improved." He also cautioned, however, that while mortality rates in ICU patients seem to be decreasing, the disease is still more dangerous and damaging when compared to other viruses that cause pneumonias.



FYI...The entirety of this article has not been posted

[98valk]

Markymark I am not here to get into a ball sizing contest. But if you are in the medical field you full well know that a mask does ZERO for the wearer but for people around them. A mask (I laugh at what passes for a mask in public) only protects people from another coughing or sneezing on people around them.
Yes I have been in the medical field for the last 35 yrs and have worn a mask everyday since. But I am not wearing one to protect Me.
The numbers in my hospital has jumped quickly over the last 3 weeks but the death rate has not followed suit. At the beginning of may we had 5 deaths in our County and as of today we are at 13 that is 8 in over 2 months. I agree it is real and does cause problems but the media and others blow it out of proportion and fear sets in and that is not good for anyone.
Plus 9/10 tenths of the people WEARING Masks don’t wear them properly, either their mouth or nose is hanging out whitch is the same as not wearing one so I doubt NYC residents are wearing them properly either.

and any facial hair makes a mask less than effective, and that goes for the men also.

[markymark640]

It appears that the numbers do look a bit better for people WITHOUT any underlying health issues,

HOWEVER : ( found this information on the web )

As of 2018, 30.3 million U.S. adults were diagnosed with heart disease.

An estimated 103 million U.S. adults have high blood pressure, according to new statistics from the American Heart Association.

More than 100 million U.S. adults are now living with diabetes or prediabetes, according to a new report released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)

COPD is the third leading cause of death by disease in the United States. More than 16.4 million people have been diagnosed with COPD, but millions more may have the disease without even knowing it.

15% of US adults are estimated to have chronic kidney disease, that is about 37 million people.

Over 70 million adults in U.S. are obese (35 million men and 35 million women).

In the United States, someone has a heart attack every 40 seconds.

Approximately 70,000 to 100,000 Americans have sickle cell disease

I reckon those numbers add up to a little over 350 MILLION Americans and that's a whole lot of people.

So, I guess that means there are millions upon millions of people that, rightfully so, are scared and can't afford to take any chances with this virus.  Their health is a critical concern to them and their families, I'm sure.

I for one, have no problem doing my part and I wear a mask whenever I go out, in hopes that it will help slow the spread. 

Having served my country in the Army for 22 years, I've kinda gotten use to doing what I can to protect the lives of my fellow man and don't have any problems for the very little discomfort that comes with wearing the mask.

[scooperhsd]

The only thing wrong with your addition is that you're assuming a person has a single one of the pre-existing factors. As we all know - that ain't the truth. Quite common for a single individual to have multiple pre-existing conditions.

[markymark640]

You're absolutely right. SO what does that mean, there's only about 250 MILLION people ???

[markymark640]

Anyone can poke holes in the numbers.

It is impossible to nail down the exact number, but that doesn't change the fact one little bit

There are millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of people that have one or more underlying health issues that put them at a higher risk of dying from the virus.

[Valkorado]

It appears that the numbers do look a bit better for people WITHOUT any underlying health issues,

HOWEVER : ( found this information on the web )

As of 2018, 30.3 million U.S. adults were diagnosed with heart disease.

An estimated 103 million U.S. adults have high blood pressure, according to new statistics from the American Heart Association.

More than 100 million U.S. adults are now living with diabetes or prediabetes, according to a new report released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)

COPD is the third leading cause of death by disease in the United States. More than 16.4 million people have been diagnosed with COPD, but millions more may have the disease without even knowing it.

15% of US adults are estimated to have chronic kidney disease, that is about 37 million people.

Over 70 million adults in U.S. are obese (35 million men and 35 million women).

In the United States, someone has a heart attack every 40 seconds.

Approximately 70,000 to 100,000 Americans have sickle cell disease

I reckon those numbers add up to a little over 350 MILLION Americans and that's a whole lot of people.

So, I guess that means there are millions upon millions of people that, rightfully so, are scared and can't afford to take any chances with this virus.  Their health is a critical concern to them and their families, I'm sure.

I for one, have no problem doing my part and I wear a mask whenever I go out, in hopes that it will help slow the spread.  

Having served my country in the Army for 22 years, I've kinda gotten use to doing what I can to protect the lives of my fellow man and don't have any problems for the very little discomfort that comes with wearing the mask.

Good points.  I remember someone saying that living life is dangerous.  Heck, I ride a motorcycle, don't I?  Yep, and I ride pretty doggone aggressively at times.  I also take the time to pull on my boots, gloves and full face helmet for my protection before every ride.  I respect motorcycles, but they don't scare me.  I live life, it doesn't scare me.  Despite having underlying medical conditions.

Not sure I agree that all the folks with underlying conditions are scared.  I think many are cautious.  

I don't wear the med masks.  The half dozen times I've sported a mask (mandated now in Colorado BTW) I've worn n95s.   Those could potentially protect me, and maybe some others with underlying conditions.

[markymark640]

I have to agree.  I would say some are scared, some are seriously concerned.

I wasn't trying to over dramatize the point.

 I think the point is that there are millions and millions of folks at a higher risk of death should they get the virus, and I have no problem doing what I can to help slow the spread.

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https://www.instashieldusa.com/

[Valkorado]

U.S. military deploys to Texas and California in support of COVID-19 operations

https://www.health.mil/News/Articles/2020/07/14/U-S-military-deploys-to-Texas-and-California-in-support-of-COVID-19-operations

From official health.mil site.  No politics.  Just the facts, ma'am.

[Leathel]

Ive not seen all the links in this post but I will post it here in case it hasn't been posted


Dr Richard Bartlett ACWT Interview

https://youtu.be/agthUf3VHdM

[Willow]

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I reckon those numbers add up to a little over 350 MILLION Americans and that's a whole lot of people.
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That is especially a lot of people in a nation with a population of 337 million.  

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It is impossible to nail down the exact number, but that doesn't change the fact one little bit
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It really does.  Numbers are important.  Truthful numbers are especially important when one is drawing a conclusion.

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There are millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of people that have one or more underlying health issues that put them at a higher risk of dying from the virus.  

It's a bit misleading.  With a disease that has a less than 1% chance of killing the other victims a 2% chance would be a higher risk.  If the risk of the others was only 50% survival then a higher risk might mean more.

A more correct statement may be that there are millions of people in the U.S. that may be at a higher risk of fatality from COVID-19 but so far the numbers don't really support that as a meaningful statistic.

I for one, have no problem doing my part and I wear a mask whenever I go out, in hopes that it will help slow the spread.  

Having served my country in the Army for 22 years, I've kinda gotten use to doing what I can to protect the lives of my fellow man and don't have any problems for the very little discomfort that comes with wearing the mask.  

Just so you can be realistic, wearing a mask does nothing to slow the spread of the virus unless you are in fact infected by the virus.  Current numbers indicate the chances of your doing any good by wearing a mask are about 6 in a thousand and that does assume that all the sick people are out walking around instead of staying home or under a doctor's care.  Considering that most of the infected are not out in public that number drops to a lot less than 6 in a thousand.

Really doesn't make so much sense, does it?

[Valkorado]

One million cases in 100 hours.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-global-cases-idUSKCN24I2W9

[98valk]

One million cases in 100 hours.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-global-cases-idUSKCN24I2W9

THE SCIENCE OF TESTING

Now for the bad news. What is the test they claim to use to identify this new bug in a patient? The test is called PCR. This is the classic polymerase chain reaction test, invented in the 80s by Dr Kary Mullis. In 40 years doctors have never come up with any test more accurate than this very flawed, theoretical estimate of microbial activity.

    The test produces loads of false positives, often failing to measure anything at all.
    No one is more critical of the test’s reliability than the inventor himself.
    Dr Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel prize for inventing PCR to detect HIV, [9] explains its limitations—why the PCR is not especially diagnostic, for HIV or for anything else:

“Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron. PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral-load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV.

“The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.” [9]

Can’t identify viruses? Then how do we know all these people have the same disease, let alone the same novel disease? This means that with all these people who have supposedly been PCR tested for COVID, there is still no conclusive diagnostic evidence that they have any coronaviruses at all. Let alone the same virus.  According to the inventor of the primary diagnostic test. (Mullis’s testimony about the limits of PCR actually helped acquit OJ. Though Johnny didn’t seem to need much help there, did he?)

LIMITS OF POLYMERASE CHAIN REACTION TEST

PCR is not a test that isolates, identifies, or even detects any particular virus. If you’re sick and have some viral fragments, the PCR test just amplifies those sequences millions of times, from the sample. For the more scientifically minded, here’s a source that’s a review of the literature on the weakness and unreliability of the polymerase chain reaction: [ Regulatory Concern of PCR [2] Yet the PCR test remains the standard that is cited by all corporate media as the means for diagnosing coronavirus all over the world.

A little research shows us that any association with viral disease from PCR is just a theory at best – just an estimate.  Nothing like an exact science that says definitively Ebola or HIV virus or coronavirus is present in this patient.  Which is what everyday media and everyday science is pretending with coronavirus, pounding it into their undiscriminating readers’ heads, week after week.

But wait. The false science gets much worse than that. There’s no evidence the PCR test is even being used at all!

CALIFORNIA “OUTBREAK”

A few days after the Fox Live press conference, corporate media reported 4 new cases of COVID in the Bay area. This was predicted by the Fox Live conference. But there’s nothing to be worried about – no more serious than the flu.

Then corporate news hysteria ramped up yet another notch, trying to make something out of nothing. Santa Clara County’s scoreboard on its website amplified the seriousness of the four cases beyond all reason. A few days later, it was up to 20 “confirmed” cases, just in Santa Clara County. [3] Confirmed how? They don’t say. Nobody knows.

At the same time another site - the California Dept. of Health - was suddenly claiming 60 cases statewide. [4] That’s 3x as many cases as in the entire country just a few days earlier. How is that possible?

That’s when it hit me. How could one county in California suddenly have 3x as many cases as the entire United States after just a few days? It couldn’t. The answer is: there are simply no standard criteria for counting cases. Plus, there was an agenda across the board to magnify the seriousness of the “epidemic” by making the most provocative, groundless predictions for the near future. [7]. But always with the requisite assurance that “Santa Clara County is doing everything possible to manage and limit the outbreak…” The standard bureaucrat slogan, from sea to shining sea…

FUNDING: THE HOME STRETCH

So what was going on here? Then I remembered. The $8 billion in funding had just come through Congress. [6]. So that means one thing: every state and federal bureaucrat in the country is now scrambling for his fair share, before the whole illusion evaporates. As it is sure to do, very soon.

Funding – whether it’s for a vaccine, or just the illusion of “control” – funding is always the predictable death knell for every single Boutique Epidemic. [8]

The usual pattern is that media redoubles its efforts at maximum hysteria and grim prediction because they know it’s going to vanish very soon. Which we’re seeing right now, like this lame turkey from Yahoo news: “As the coronavirus spreads, one study predicts that even the best-case scenario is 15 million dead and a $2.4 trillion hit to global GDP.” [7]

For the next few weeks, get ready for more like this from the pre-hominids at the corporate tabloids. This explains the new tone of desperation in media, squeezing every last drop of urgency out of the media event before the Golden Goose flies away. And why more and more masks are appearing on the street and why there are shortages of bottled water, rice, etc., in most Bay Area supermarkets. In the absence of verifiable cases.

WHAT IF THERE’S NO CORONAVIRUS EPIDEMIC AT ALL: EXPERIMENT

Hold on here. What if there is no epidemic, no new COVID disease at all, and no legitimate testing procedure for counting the “infected“? Let’s just make that hypothesis, and then try to disprove it.

I started out with a little experiment. First I called Santa Clara County health department, 408) 992-4900 and after 30 minutes finally got through to someone. I asked if Santa Clara County had any facility where I could refer my patients who had the flu, where they could be tested to rule out coronavirus.The answer was unequivocal - No – Santa Clara County has no testing facility for coronavirus.

My next question was, well all these numbers of coronavirus cases on your website – where are they coming from if you have no testing facility? The representative told me that people had to go to their individual practitioners, at pulmonary clinics, etc. in order to be tested. And then these doctors would voluntarily inform the county so they could add the numbers to the scoreboard. OK, there’s Brush-off #1.

ILLUSION OF TESTING – NO REAL MARKET

My next question to the County was: what kind of testing are the doctors using at these clinics? Answer: we don’t know. See where this is going, as we start down the bureaucratic rabbit hole?

So my next step was to call local MDs, especially pulmonary specialists in the Bay Area. After calling more than 50 of these offices, the answer was a resounding No – 100% of the time. No, we do not have any test that we can use to rule out coronavirus infection. Try it!

Pretty safe to assume that 50 is a sufficient number of clinics in the Bay Area to determine whether there’s any clinic who offers PCR or any other test for coronavirus. My contention is that there are no practitioners who have such a test and therefore coronavirus screening tests are simply not available in Santa Clara County at all. And therefore we have no idea how many cases there are. Or if there are any at all.

If you then ask the clinic - Do you know anyone who does have the test – guess what they say.  Take a guess. They’ll tell you to call the Santa Clara County Dept. of Health – which is who told you to go to the individual clinics in the first place. There’s Brushoff #2. See the game here?

Now why would all the pulmonary specialists in one of the most densely populated sections of the country have no interest whatsoever in screening people for a respiratory disease being hawked by all media as the most dangerous epidemic threat we’ve ever seen…? Some specialists! Obviously they’re not taking it very seriously – not much faith in its virulence.  Think about it - if this epidemic were real, would all these doctors ignore an entire market, this huge?

CONCLUSION AND HYPOTHESIS

So a perfectly valid hypothesis might be this: The County’s online scoreboard is fraudulent. There are no cases at all. These reported cases of so-called COVID are nonexistent because there is no available testing procedure in all of the Bay Area that can diagnose the disease – in an area with 5 million people.

And even if there were, the standard test cited in any medical reference for COVID is the RT-PCR test, for which we have seen above the evidence of its inherent inaccuracy and lack of scientific reliability.

By extrapolation then, it is fairly reasonable to say that the trickery and deception we see at work in one of the richest, most populous communities in the US is no different from what is going on everywhere else across the nation.  Looks like it’s all being orchestrated via the same corporate media stories.

What we’ve seen in the past few months may be nothing more than the standard re-categorization technique, traditionally used to conjure up new Boutique Epidemics, in the absence of any truly novel disease. [8] In every community, in very state, let’s take a look at the annual numbers of people who got the flu, for the past 3 years. Guess what you’ll find. No difference at all this year.

So what was this all about – what was the objective from the outset? The $8.3 billion pork barrel for local, state and federal employees to squabble over. With media’s increasing stranglehold and censorship of opposing information now in place, this particular Boutique Epidemic got a little carried away and had an excessive effect on the stock market, travel, and international trade.

But all that will soon normalize, as the phantom reluctantly leaves the opera, now that there’s no more incentive for the show to go on. So stop worrying about it, buy your stocks back, and go about your business. It's all over but the shouting. With no more money - nothing to shout about.

What’s next? Look for another Boutique Epidemic coming soon to your town, probably next year. They’re now an annual event. Like Groundhog Day.

https://ttfuture.org/blog/michael/why-coronavirus-will-soon-vanish-overnight