Coronavirus $hit be getting real

[Valkorado]

It is funny the 2009/2010 swine flu pandemic was estimated by the CDC and WHO to have infected 700 million to 1.4 billion people and killed between 150,000 and 575,000, but there were no shutdowns of businesses, no lockdowns of

Horse hockey.  Please keep it real.

"The first the case of the H1N1 was detected in Mexico, after which the virus went on to infect 24 percent of the world’s population. While there is no definite figure, the Center for Disease Control and Protection estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from H1N1  infection during the first year the virus circulated. In the United States alone, the CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases, with 12,469 deaths. Unlike the coronavirus, the disease was more deadly for younger demographics. It was estimated that 80 percent of H1N1 victims worldwide were younger than 65 years of age".

https://en.as.com/en/2020/04/17/other_sports/1587118490_043677.html

VERIFY: How does COVID-19 compare to the swine flu H1N1 pandemic?
COVID-19 has already been far more deadly in the U.S.

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/verify/swine-flu-h1n1-vs-covid19-coronavirus/269-eaea4bf0-f955-49a5-b06e-f9ed318ea47a



And COVID-19 has a ways to go yet.

[Jersey mike]

It is funny the 2009/2010 swine flu pandemic was estimated by the CDC and WHO to have infected 700 million to 1.4 billion people and killed between 150,000 and 575,000, but there were no shutdowns of businesses, no lockdowns of

Horse hockey.  Please keep it real.

"The first the case of the H1N1 was detected in Mexico, after which the virus went on to infect 24 percent of the world’s population. While there is no definite figure, the Center for Disease Control and Protection estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from H1N1  infection during the first year the virus circulated. In the United States alone, the CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases, with 12,469 deaths. Unlike the coronavirus, the disease was more deadly for younger demographics. It was estimated that 80 percent of H1N1 victims worldwide were younger than 65 years of age".

https://en.as.com/en/2020/04/17/other_sports/1587118490_043677.html

VERIFY: How does COVID-19 compare to the swine flu H1N1 pandemic?
COVID-19 has already been far more deadly in the U.S.

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/verify/swine-flu-h1n1-vs-covid19-coronavirus/269-eaea4bf0-f955-49a5-b06e-f9ed318ea47a



And COVID-19 has a ways to go yet.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic

“Some studies estimated that the actual number of cases including asymptomatic and mild cases could be 700 million to 1.4 billion people—or 11 to 21 percent of the global population of 6.8 billion at the time.[7] The lower value of 700 million is more than the 500 million people estimated to have been infected by the Spanish flu pandemic.[13]“

“The number of lab-confirmed deaths reported to the WHO is 18,449,[8] though this 2009 H1N1 flu pandemic is estimated to have actually caused about 284,000 (range from 150,000 to 575,000) deaths.[14] A follow-up study done in September 2010 showed that the risk of serious illness resulting from the 2009 H1N1 flu was no higher than that of the yearly seasonal flu.[15] For comparison, the WHO estimates that 250,000 to 500,000 people die of seasonal flu annually.[10]“


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html

“From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.“

“ Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated.** Globally, 80 percent of (H1N1)pdm09 virus-related deaths were estimated to have occurred in people younger than 65 years of age. This differs greatly from typical seasonal influenza epidemics, during which about 70 percent to 90 percent of deaths are estimated to occur in people 65 years and older.”

[Robert]

Horse hockey.  Please keep it real.

It is.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic

Disease   Influenza
Virus strain   Pandemic H1N1/09 virus
Location   Worldwide
First outbreak   North America
Index case   Veracruz, Mexico
Date   January 2009 – 10 August 2010
Confirmed cases   491,382 (lab-confirmed)
Suspected cases‡   700 million to 1.4 billion (estimation)
Deaths
   lab-confirmed deaths reported to WHO: 18,449 (flu patients were generally not tested)
CDC and WHO estimate: 284,000 (range 151,700–575,400)

[Valkorado]

It is funny the 2009/2010 swine flu pandemic was estimated by the CDC and WHO to have infected 700 million to 1.4 billion people and killed between 150,000 and 575,000, but there were no shutdowns of businesses, no lockdowns of

Horse hockey.  Please keep it real.

"The first the case of the H1N1 was detected in Mexico, after which the virus went on to infect 24 percent of the world’s population. While there is no definite figure, the Center for Disease Control and Protection estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from H1N1  infection during the first year the virus circulated. In the United States alone, the CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases, with 12,469 deaths. Unlike the coronavirus, the disease was more deadly for younger demographics. It was estimated that 80 percent of H1N1 victims worldwide were younger than 65 years of age".

https://en.as.com/en/2020/04/17/other_sports/1587118490_043677.html

VERIFY: How does COVID-19 compare to the swine flu H1N1 pandemic?
COVID-19 has already been far more deadly in the U.S.

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/verify/swine-flu-h1n1-vs-covid19-coronavirus/269-eaea4bf0-f955-49a5-b06e-f9ed318ea47a



And COVID-19 has a ways to go yet.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic

“Some studies estimated that the actual number of cases including asymptomatic and mild cases could be 700 million to 1.4 billion people—or 11 to 21 percent of the global population of 6.8 billion at the time.[7] The lower value of 700 million is more than the 500 million people estimated to have been infected by the Spanish flu pandemic.[13]“

But it didn't kill as many as the Spanish flu.  Or C-19.

“The number of lab-confirmed deaths reported to the WHO is 18,449,[8] though this 2009 H1N1 flu pandemic is estimated to have actually caused about 284,000 (range from 150,000 to 575,000) deaths.[14] A follow-up study done in September 2010 showed that the risk of serious illness resulting from the 2009 H1N1 flu was no higher than that of the yearly seasonal flu.[15] For comparison, the WHO estimates that 250,000 to 500,000 people die of seasonal flu annually.[10]“

And it'll be an interesting flu season this year, with C-19 in the picture as well. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fauci-says-daily-coronavirus-infections-must-plunge-by-fall-or-us-will-face-really-bad-situation

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-h1n1-pandemic.html

“From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus.“

“ Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1)pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated.** Globally, 80 percent of (H1N1)pdm09 virus-related deaths were estimated to have occurred in people younger than 65 years of age. This differs greatly from typical seasonal influenza epidemics, during which about 70 percent to 90 percent of deaths are estimated to occur in people 65 years and older.”

12,469 H1N1 deaths in the US.  Seems like it was a less severe pandemic.

I don't even know how I got sucked in to discussing Swine Flu, as I don't support mandated lockdowns or forced masking -- which is why H1N1 was brought up to begin with.  I was just pointing out the differences in the H1N1 and C-19 pandemics.  We do know the H1N1 pandemic numbers are now static because that pandemic is over.  C-19 continues...

I really don't care if you guys believe C-19 is no biggie.  I don't care if you refuse to mask up in crowds.  I hate lockdowns, and I hate C-19.

I also don't like bs pandemic comparisons when what we're dealing with presently is C-19.

Another nice ride today.  How was yours?

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https://apnews.com/a92be68eb840ee875648f1de0110f3da

Virus surges in India, Philippines; Australia imposes curfew

[Valkorado]

Hundreds infected with coronavirus at Georgia camp, raising fears about risk for children
The CDC report found that attendees had engaged in a myriad of indoor and outdoor activities, including "daily vigorous singing and cheering"

https://www.foxnews.com/health/georgia-camp-sees-260-children-staff-test-positive-coronavirus-cdc-says

[..]

Hundreds infected with coronavirus at Georgia camp, raising fears about risk for children
The CDC report found that attendees had engaged in a myriad of indoor and outdoor activities, including "daily vigorous singing and cheering"

https://www.foxnews.com/health/georgia-camp-sees-260-children-staff-test-positive-coronavirus-cdc-says

In the county where I live.

[..]

https://apnews.com/703d9d02ede92e29487a9a7c4c8ab47d

Spain's new wave of infections hits the young, middle-aged

[Valkorado]

... we're not living in Victoria.

Australian state to deploy military, impose hefty fines to enforce COVID-19 isolation

https://www.saltwire.com/news/world/australian-state-to-deploy-military-impose-hefty-fines-to-enforce-covid-19-isolation-480925/

"Australia's second-most populous state Victoria said on Tuesday military personnel will be deployed to enforce COVID-19 isolation orders, with anyone caught in breach of those rules facing hefty fines as high as A$20,000 ($14,250.00).

Australia, once heralded as a global leader in containing COVID-19, is desperately trying to slow the spread of the virus in Victoria to prevent a national second wave of infections.

Victoria earlier this week imposed a night curfew, tightened restrictions on people's daily movements and ordered large parts of the local economy to close to slow the spread of coronavirus.

But nearly a third of those who contracted COVID-19 were not home isolating when checked on by officials, requiring tough new penalties, Victoria state Premier Daniel Andrews said on Tuesday.

Andrews said 500 military personnel will this week deploy to Victoria to bolster enforcement of self-isolation orders, with fines of nearly A$5,000 ($3,559.00) for breaching stay at home orders. The only exemption will be for urgent medical care.

"There is literally no reason for you to leave your home and if you were to leave your home and not be found there, you will have a very difficult time convincing Victoria police that you have a lawful reason," Andrews told reporters in Melbourne.

Repeat offenders face a fine of up to A$20,000, he said".


EDIT:

And the natives are getting restless.  Understandably.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/melbourne-police-assaulted-and-baited-over-lockdown-rules

[Robert]

When was the last time you sterilized your phone? Your keys? The steering wheel on your car? Every door knob you touch? How about the gas pumps?

If you are truly serious about this then why did you not take these precautions also.

FDA updates on hand sanitizers consumers should not use

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-updates-hand-sanitizers-consumers-should-not-use

[Jersey mike]

AVERAGE AGE of person who dies from C19, 78 years old.
It was mentioned at the President’s press conference yesterday.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

[Robert]

AVERAGE AGE of person who dies from C19, 78 years old.
It was mentioned at the President’s press conference yesterday.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

Hey if you have a link to that conference please post it. It was very good and told the true story on the virus not the medias hyped numbers.

[Jersey mike]

AVERAGE AGE of person who dies from C19, 78 years old.
It was mentioned at the President’s press conference yesterday.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

Hey if you have a link to that conference please post it. It was very good and told the true story on the virus not the medias hyped numbers.

Link to yesterday’s press conference:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cDqPwpAaoN8

[Valkorado]

'It is what it is': Trump in interview on COVID-19 death toll in U.S.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1235734

I sometimes think our President is frequenting the world famous VRCC board, and is reading the Sh!t Getting Real thread on a daily basis.  As some might have noticed, awhile back I changed my C-19 slogan from the more sarcastic "It's All Good!" to "It Is What It Is".

And it is...

Total infections
Source: Johns Hopkins University (as of Tuesday)

U.S.: 4,713,562 confirmed cases (out of 328.2 million total population)
Brazil: 2,750,318 (out of 211.7 million)
India: 1,855,745 (out of 1.3 billion)
Russia: 854,641 (out of 141.7 million)
U.K.: 307,251 (out of 65.8 million)
Spain: 297,054 (out of 50 million)
Italy: 248,229 (out of 62.4 million)
France: 225,198 (out of 67.8 million)
Germany: 212,111 (out of 80.2 million)
China: 88,099 (out of 1.4 billion)
South Korea: 14,423 (out of 51.8 million)


Total deaths
Source: Johns Hopkins University (as of Tuesday)

U.S.: 155,471
Brazil: 94,655
U.K.: 46,295
India: 38,938
Italy: 35,166
France: 30,268
Spain: 28,472
Russia: 14,327
Germany: 9,161
China: 4,672
South Korea: 301


7-day moving average of daily new cases
Source: Worldometer (latest figures for Monday)

U.S.: 60,953 new cases
India: 53,261
Brazil: 44,027
Russia: 5,449
Spain: 2,610
France: 1,174
U.K.: 787
Germany: 706
Italy: 274
China: 77
South Korea: 31


7-day moving average of daily new deaths
Source: Worldometer (latest figures for Monday)

U.S.: 1,125 new deaths
Brazil: 1,004
India: 789
Russia: 122
U.K.: 64
France: 12
Italy: 8
Spain: 6
Germany: 4
South Korea: 1
China: 0

More than 18.3 million people globally have been infected since the virus was first reported in Wuhan, China, including over 4.7 million in the U.S. Over 10.9 million globally have reportedly recovered from infection, while over 694,400 have died, as of Tuesday, according to the latest figures from Johns Hopkins University.


Essentially, I support our President and do not hold a novel virus and the resulting illness death and economic devastation against him.  No nation has handled C-19 flawlessly.  America is a free and open country, and our challenges are unique.  Many other nations are now experiencing serious resurgences.

Yep.  It is what it is, and it is a sh!t virus.  It came from China.

[Robert]

Do I Hear Sheep In The Background?

https://videos.files.wordpress.com/1hprrB2y/902f246f58353892436bb9c57e35bb3bd72fbc98c04bf8764b628da6ffb4b470_dvd.mp4

So they are experiencing better and more plentiful testing which leads to higher test numbers but the death rate is remaining low. Which means we have a 99 percent cure rate,   considering they locked everything down projecting by this time we would have 1 million dead, I find that a major step in the right direction. I wonder why the media is still saying its so bad though and not hyping the cure rate? Oh well probably just an oversight that they will correct.

Thank you for making these points they are truly a good outcome to a situation that could have been much worse. The only thing I have not figured out yet is how we are going to pay for the stimulus money, the 175 billion given to hospitals for diagnosing covid patients and a whole host of other freebees. Mind you this was all because some computer geek made projections that were waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy off and the dems tried to nuke the economy. From which the fall out is much greater than the projected numbers on covid. Oh by the way did you see the rent and mortgage numbers as far as the default rate, I think its about 45 percent right now. The banks are also not adding in the missed payments to the end of the mortgage like they agreed but are making people come up with the money immediately.

Well thanks again for the positive numbers, do you have any good numbers on the economy?

[Valkorado]

Do I Hear Sheep In The Background?

https://videos.files.wordpress.com/1hprrB2y/902f246f58353892436bb9c57e35bb3bd72fbc98c04bf8764b628da6ffb4b470_dvd.mp4

So they are experiencing better and more plentiful testing which leads to higher test numbers but the death rate is remaining low. Which means we have a 99 percent cure rate,  considering they locked everything down projecting by this time we would have 1 million dead.

Thank you for making these points

One more point.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tp0zB904Mc

[3fan4life]

This site is a really good place to just "Look at the Numbers".

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?%22#countries


I've said all along that Sweden is the country to watch since they have mandated nothing.

So looking at their numbers:

Total pop: 10,105,081

Reported Infections: 81,181

Total deaths: 5,747

Infection rate: 0.803 %

Death Rate: 0.0568 %

Death rate among those infected: 7.079 %


Compare them to Belgium who has imposed strict measures:

https://www.france24.com/en/20200727-belgium-tightens-covid-19-restrictions-to-avoid-another-lockdown-amid-rise-in-cases


Total Pop: 11,594,326

Reported infections: 70,314

Total Deaths: 9,850

Infection Rate: 0.606 %

Death rate: 0.084 %

Death rate among those infected: 14.008 %



US #'s:

Total pop: 331,182,250

Reported infections: 4,863,077

Total deaths: 158,975

Infection Rate: 1.468 %

Death rate: 0.048 %

Death rate among those infected: 3.269 %



As a side note look at the infected death rates in both Sweden and Belgium compared to the US.

Sweden and Belgium both practice socialized medicine.

[Robert]

Do I Hear Sheep In The Background?

https://videos.files.wordpress.com/1hprrB2y/902f246f58353892436bb9c57e35bb3bd72fbc98c04bf8764b628da6ffb4b470_dvd.mp4

So they are experiencing better and more plentiful testing which leads to higher test numbers but the death rate is remaining low. Which means we have a 99 percent cure rate,  considering they locked everything down projecting by this time we would have 1 million dead.

Thank you for making these points

One more point.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tp0zB904Mc

Yes and so? I wonder how many other germs, viruses are in that besides covid? I wonder after all these years with the plague and HIV, Cancer and a whole host of other diseases did we get by not only not wearing masks but not knowing this information? 

Didnt your mother ever tell you to cover your mouth?


US #'s:

Total pop: 331,182,250

Reported infections: 4,863,077

Total deaths: 158,975

Infection Rate: 1.468 %

Death rate: 0.048 %

Death rate among those infected: 3.269 %

Yes we are truly fortunate and the only thing to fear is the news media and the current dem government.

[Valkorado]

Do I Hear Sheep In The Background?

https://videos.files.wordpress.com/1hprrB2y/902f246f58353892436bb9c57e35bb3bd72fbc98c04bf8764b628da6ffb4b470_dvd.mp4

So they are experiencing better and more plentiful testing which leads to higher test numbers but the death rate is remaining low. Which means we have a 99 percent cure rate,  considering they locked everything down projecting by this time we would have 1 million dead.

Thank you for making these points

One more point.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tp0zB904Mc

Yes and so? I wonder how many other germs, viruses are in that besides covid? I wonder after all these years with the plague and HIV, Cancer and a whole host of other diseases did we get by not only not wearing masks but not knowing this information? 

Didnt your mother ever tell you to cover your mouth?

  It was a FYI video, Robert.  No hygeine worries here.

I do think the death rate vs. infected death rate is notable.

[scooperhsd]

Yes - I fail to see any RATIONAL basis for all the lockups currently in force "because we want to prevent a 2nd wave". Nope, that can't be the reason. NO media is presenting this in a fair and balanced way, so I trust none of them.

1000, heck even 100,000 infections per day is a drop in the bucket (ocean) for our country. Especially since such a small number of those actually require hospitalization.

[Valkorado]

Yes - I fail to see any RATIONAL basis for all the lockups currently in force "because we want to prevent a 2nd wave". Nope, that can't be the reason. NO media is presenting this in a fair and balanced way, so I trust none of them.

1000, heck even 100,000 infections per day is a drop in the bucket (ocean) for our country. Especially since such a small number of those actually require hospitalization.

I'm no fan of lockdowns.

The United States is currently reporting a seven-day average of over 60,000 new cases and 1,069 deaths per day.    Not infections, deaths.  

So, we're at about 60,000 new cases per week.  I'm pretty sure we don't want to see 100,000 infections per day.

[scooperhsd]

When over 80% of those infections are asymptomatic / mild stay at home - not really a big deal.

[Willow]

...
The United States is currently reporting a seven-day average of over 60,000 new cases and 1,069 deaths per day.    Not infections, deaths.  
...

Your numbers are coming from someplace other than are mine.  My numbers show the U.S. these days experiencing 600 - 800 deaths per day.  Someone's reporting is either inflated or deflated.  

Big number catch our attention.  Percentages are more meaningful.

I still highly distrust the U.S. reporting of COVID-19 deaths.  There is no way the population of the U.S. should account for 23% of the COVID-19 deaths in the world.

[Serk]

There is no way the population of the U.S. should account for 23% of the COVID-19 deaths in the world.

Orange man bad.

[Valkorado]

...
The United States is currently reporting a seven-day average of over 60,000 new cases and 1,069 deaths per day.    Not infections, deaths.  
...

Your numbers are coming from someplace other than are mine.  My numbers show the U.S. these days experiencing 600 - 800 deaths per day.  Someone's reporting is either inflated or deflated.  

Big number catch our attention.  Percentages are more meaningful.

I still highly distrust the U.S. reporting of COVID-19 deaths.  There is no way the population of the U.S. should account for 23% of the COVID-19 deaths in the world.

  My numbers?  They're not mine, but I'll start consulting with you to get the straight scoop from now on.

As of July 30 "they" were reporting five straight days with US C-19 deaths numbering over 1,000.  Admittedly, I don't know where they're at just a few days later or even if they are accurate.

https://www.ft.com/content/03f27af6-23c6-3d3c-8d65-849d500dcf2d

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/30/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

[Willow]

My numbers?  They're not mine, but I'll start consulting with you to get the straight scoop from now on.

As of July 30 "they" were reporting five straight days with US C-19 deaths numbering over 1,000.  Admittedly, I don't know where they're at just a few days later or even if they are accurate. 

When you present them they are yours, maybe not originally but at presentation they are yours.  I'll look forward to hearing from you for the true perspective.   

One of your links required me to subscribe.  I declined.  The other link was to the Washington Post.  I read it but with skepticism.

There were indeed five days near the end of July that reported over 1,000 deaths.  They were an anomaly.   both sides of that anomaly were days well below 1,000 going as low as a couple hundred.

My numbers generally come from the site that 3fan linked to and a few others.  I'm comfortable with muffling my ears to the panicking screams of much of the media.

[3fan4life]

From the website https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

July 29th:
65,286 new cases and 1,465 new deaths in the United States

July 30th:
68,549 new cases and 1,465 new deaths in the United States

July 31st:
71,075 new cases and 1,458 new deaths in the United States

Aug 1st:
58,535 new cases and 1,123 new deaths in the United States

Aug 2nd:
49,562 new cases and 467 new deaths in the United States

Aug 3rd:
48,622 new cases and 567 new deaths in the United States

Aug 4th:
18,971 new cases and 506 new deaths in the United States

It would appear that the last few days of July were brutal.

Some of those increased numbers was the data from earlier in the month "Catching Up".

Either that is the case or we've finally got this thing kicked in the butt and it's going away.

Because Early August numbers are showing a significant decrease.

[Valkorado]

When you present them they are yours, maybe not originally but at presentation they are yours.  I'll look forward to hearing from you for the true perspective.  

Hey no fair, I already yeilded to your omnipotent knowledge as the undisputed source for the "real" scoop on all things related to C-19. My faith lies 100% in you from now on, barring all others!   

BTW, I agree that numbers are kinda worthless poop.  Those who open their eyes will see a little coronavirus problem, not only here but globally -- and it ain't Trump's fault.  No, I don't think the economic devastation is warranted and I wish you'd done something about that.  

Thanks again, China!

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53646149

Millions return to lockdown in Philippines

[Valkorado]

Some good points.  Something for everyone here -- most will find perspectives they'll side with and others they'll disagree with in this one...  I'm somewhere in the middle.  From my experience, the truth usually lies somewhere around there.

Not sure the authors aren't confusing selfish with free, but, "Houston, we have a problem."

https://apnews.com/24e2247bb296d6381dc14c0cc1d27d96

[3fan4life]

This is an interesting study:

https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/08/04/health/coronavirus-immune-system.amp.html?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2020%2F08%2F04%2Fhealth%2Fcoronavirus-immune-system.html

[..]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8596357/New-York-City-CHECKPOINTS-city.html


New York City will have CHECKPOINTS into the city to trace travelers from 35 states with fines up to $10,000 if visitors do not quarantine for 14 days

[Serk]

In Victoria State Australia:

"This means when doing spot checks on people’s homes, if the residents did not give permission for them to enter, police will be authorised to enter without a warrant."

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/02/victoria-premier-daniel-andrews-stage-four-coronavirus-lockdown-restrictions-melbourne-covid-19

[..]

Make of this what you will


https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2020/08/03/coronavirus-shock-claim-refugee-scientist-says-virus-came-from-army-lab-n744830

[..]

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/08/04/national/cold-symptoms-work-survey/

About 60 percent of people in the nation who developed cold-like symptoms during the first wave of the novel coronavirus pandemic, between February and May, went to work despite a request by the government for them not to do so, a recent survey has found.

[Valkorado]

Make of this what you will


https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2020/08/03/coronavirus-shock-claim-refugee-scientist-says-virus-came-from-army-lab-n744830

I've no reason to doubt her.

[3fan4life]

In Victoria State Australia:

"This means when doing spot checks on people’s homes, if the residents did not give permission for them to enter, police will be authorised to enter without a warrant."

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/02/victoria-premier-daniel-andrews-stage-four-coronavirus-lockdown-restrictions-melbourne-covid-19

It's easy to do this after the government takes citizens guns away from them.

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https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/08/04/national/cold-symptoms-work-survey/

About 60 percent of people in the nation who developed cold-like symptoms during the first wave of the novel coronavirus pandemic, between February and May, went to work despite a request by the government for them not to do so, a recent survey has found.

Mine was the 3rd week of Feb and luckily the school was on vacation for that week.

[Valkorado]

This is an interesting study:

https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/08/04/health/coronavirus-immune-system.amp.html?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2020%2F08%2F04%2Fhealth%2Fcoronavirus-immune-system.html

It is.  I do like science!  Thanks for posting.

[Serk]

Houston Methodist reports rapid recovery of critically ill COVID-19 patients with new drug

"According to a press release from the drug maker NeuroRX, independent researchers have reported that aviptadil blocked replication of the SARS coronavirus in human lung cells and monocytes."

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/08/05/houston-methodist-reports-rapid-recovery-of-covid-19-patients-with-new-drug/?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar