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FDA OKs emergency authorization of drugs touted by Trump to fight coronavirus  https://www.foxnews.com/health/fda-oks-emergency-authorization-of-drugs-touted-by-trump-to-fight-coronavirusAs for the coronavirus, chloroquine and a similar drug, hydroxychloroquine, have shown encouraging signs in small, early tests against the virus, but they have yet to be studied during a controlled clinical trial. “Let’s see how it works. It may. It may not,” Trump said at a press conference on Sunday, the report said. |
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« Reply #682 on: March 29, 2020, 11:10:54 PM » |
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3-D video shows Covid-19 attack patient's lungsCT imaging from George Washington University Hospital shows the effects of Covid-19 on the lungs of a 59-year old man. https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/03/26/3d-video-shows-covid-19-attack-lungs.cnn/video/playlists/top-news-videos/just awful to see
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« Reply #683 on: March 30, 2020, 06:15:56 AM » |
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I've been thinking this has to be true for some time. There are just too many cases where everyone in a room with an infected person gets sick. Airborne transmission may turn out to be the primary route. So yes, wash your hands and don't touch your face. But maybe we need to avoid public buildings, too. And if you must enter one wear a mask if at all possible, and enter when there are few other people around. |
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« Reply #685 on: March 30, 2020, 08:59:26 AM » |
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Airborne as we would accept meaning, in the breath of one infected? The article doesn't support that but it gives us a reminder that we may have needed. The virus is contained in droplets, aerosols. Some of us, myself included, attribute these to sneezes and coughs but the context of the story reminds us that singing loudly will result in droplets. Anything that forces a large amount of air forcefully through the throat and out the mouth can spew droplets into the air. Actions such as hollering and guffawing can do so. We demonstrate this when we speak of needing to clean off our screens. Another element of the story is steel folding chairs and how the choir members helped take them down. There was concern as to why some members of the choir didn't catch the virus but we're only testing those who show symptoms. A large portion of COVID-19 victims are asymptomatic. It's not unlikely that the entire choir was infected. I'm not convinced the virus spreads on normal breath but it does bring to mind that we need aware of more than just coughing and sneezing. |
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« Reply #687 on: March 30, 2020, 09:49:34 AM » |
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Airborne as we would accept meaning, in the breath of one infected? The article doesn't support that but it gives us a reminder that we may have needed. The virus is contained in droplets, aerosols. Some of us, myself included, attribute these to sneezes and coughs but the context of the story reminds us that singing loudly will result in droplets. Anything that forces a large amount of air forcefully through the throat and out the mouth can spew droplets into the air. Actions such as hollering and guffawing can do so. We demonstrate this when we speak of needing to clean off our screens. Another element of the story is steel folding chairs and how the choir members helped take them down. There was concern as to why some members of the choir didn't catch the virus but we're only testing those who show symptoms. A large portion of COVID-19 victims are asymptomatic. It's not unlikely that the entire choir was infected. I'm not convinced the virus spreads on normal breath but it does bring to mind that we need aware of more than just coughing and sneezing. I'm thinking this may be correct. It likely doesn't spread on normal breath but may spew on droplets. If it is the case, will we soon be instructed to "elbow" our shouts, guffaws and "high notes"? Or should we just curb those vile behaviors? Yes, I'm kinda sorta kidding.  |
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« Reply #688 on: March 30, 2020, 09:53:23 AM » |
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I'm thinking this may be correct. It likely doesn't spread on normal breath but may spew on droplets. If it is the case, will we soon be instructed to "elbow" our shouts, guffaws and "high notes"? Yes, I'm kinda sorta kidding.
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« Reply #689 on: March 30, 2020, 10:11:43 AM » |
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I guess this is what the task force means when they say we're fighting a war, against an invisible enemy.  Dr. Deborah Birx — White House Coronavirus Task Force response coordinator — issued a grim warning to Americans concerned over the COVID-19 pandemic: The best-case scenario for the coronavirus outbreak is 100,000 to 200,000 dead Americans. https://www.theblaze.com/news/white-house-coronavirus-task-forces-dr-deborah-birx-says-100000-to-200000-dead-americans-is-best-case-scenarioSounds like Fauci is in complete agreement with these numbers. Thanks, ChiComs! WTF is this turd you've dropped on the world? Liars. https://www.foxnews.com/world/wuhan-residents-say-coronavirus-figures-released-by-china-dont-add-upAnother online estimate is based on the cremation capacity of funeral homes in Wuhan, which runs 84 furnaces with a capacity over a 24-hour period of 1,560 urns. That estimate puts the number of estimated deaths in Wuhan at 46,800.
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« Reply #690 on: March 30, 2020, 10:13:18 AM » |
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I'm thinking this may be correct. It likely doesn't spread on normal breath but may spew on droplets. If it is the case, will we soon be instructed to "elbow" our shouts, guffaws and "high notes"? Yes, I'm kinda sorta kidding.
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« Reply #692 on: March 30, 2020, 10:30:24 AM » |
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Damn-down right SCARY. Specially iffin yer lungs are Already compromised. I've read reports the victims said their lungs felt like they were full of liquid or sand. On my ride yesterday I tried very hard to maintain more than my usual following distance in case some body spit or exhaled smoke out their window. Just gotta do the best we can. RIDE SAFE. Sure sh!tty that we've gotta think this way now, but we do. We'll get through... |
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Update from my friend that tested positive for COVID-19: "Well i am going to attempt to head back to work (my desk at home) on Wed. Last couple days have made some good progress after 3 weeks of being down. Thank you all so much for your love and support. Stay safe. If anything I can do for any of you let me know. I have a couple of extra n95 masks if any of my local healthcare worker friends need a few.." Also, evidently his writeup of his experience went viral (*Cough*Cough*) and he was contacted by VOX Media, with his permission he was included in this article of various people who've had it and what it was like: (He's "Mike, 57, IT worker in Seattle") https://www.vox.com/first-person/2020/3/28/21197480/coronavirus-symptoms-covid-19 |
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Update from my friend that tested positive for COVID-19: "Well i am going to attempt to head back to work (my desk at home) on Wed. Last couple days have made some good progress after 3 weeks of being down. Thank you all so much for your love and support. Stay safe. If anything I can do for any of you let me know. I have a couple of extra n95 masks if any of my local healthcare worker friends need a few.." Also, evidently his writeup of his experience went viral (*Cough*Cough*) and he was contacted by VOX Media, with his permission he was included in this article of various people who've had it and what it was like: (He's "Mike, 57, IT worker in Seattle") https://www.vox.com/first-person/2020/3/28/21197480/coronavirus-symptoms-covid-19Sounds like he's an internet celebrity now! Glad he's also a success story. That drug looks very promising... |
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« Reply #697 on: March 30, 2020, 05:12:01 PM » |
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From the article linked: The findings offer “limited evidence that some potential for airborne transmission exists," researchers said, though they warned that the findings do not confirm airborne spread. Wow! "Some potential" and "do not confirm"? A bit less than a statement of proven transmission. |
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I don't want to be cynical, but are we not being warned to wear a mask in public places because there aren't enough to go around? Social distancing seems to be a weak substitute for a mask if airborne transmission is a credible risk. Distancing certainly helps, but distancing with a mask has to be safer.
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« Reply #700 on: March 30, 2020, 05:50:40 PM » |
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Ganja and booze essential, gun shops must close. California. Thankfully Colorado Governor Polis is leaving gun stores open for business. https://kingcityrustler.com/what-counts-as-essential-business-in-monterey-county-amid-covid-19-stay-at-home-order/California, baby. It's alright, when the crazed criminals come kicking your door, remember it's OK if they only rob you for less than $1000. You can't find a gun, and they have liquor stores and dispensaries to spend that money in. It all works out well -- for the criminals. |
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Hydroxychloroquine Demand Triples Overnight Following FDA Approval
The Food and Drug Administration gave emergency-use authorization to hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for the coronavirus pandemic on Sunday. But demand for the drug backed by President Donald Trump that is typically used to treat malaria soared prior to the move, according to data from Symphony Health.
Weekly prescriptions soared from 100k to 300k over the past week, since President Trump first mentioned the drug as one of two commons drugs that produced potentially wondrous results if administered together (the other drug, azythromycin, better known as a Z-pak) to COVID-19 patients.
IV Vitamin C "Widely Used" To Treat COVID-19 In NY Hospitals
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China Is Fixed: Chinese PMIs Soar Back Into Expansion, Smashing Expectations
USA total cases 164,121
new cases +404
total deaths 3,163
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active cases 155,452
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The Food and Drug Administration gave emergency-use authorization to hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for the coronavirus pandemic on Sunday. But demand for the drug backed by President Donald Trump that is typically used to treat malaria soared prior to the move, according to data from Symphony Health.
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IV Vitamin C "Widely Used" To Treat COVID-19 In NY Hospitals
Arrest Warrant Issued For Florida Pastor Who Defied Order To Suspend Church Service
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"IV Vitamin C "Widely Used" To Treat COVID-19 In NY Hospitals" I saw that the other day. Amazing that I've been suggesting this on this board for yrs and how this treatment has over 400 studies on how it rids the body of cancer, tumors and other unhealthy conditions in the body. Of course I was ridiculed for posting about it. |
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Jockey CEO Debra Waller said her company made parachutes during previous wars. Now, they're making between 30,000 and 50,000 medical gowns a week.
United Technologies Corporation will donate more than 1 million pieces of PPE next week. The company has sent out 90,000 pieces this week alone.
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Jockey CEO Debra Waller said her company made parachutes during previous wars. Now, they're making between 30,000 and 50,000 medical gowns a week.
United Technologies Corporation will donate more than 1 million pieces of PPE next week. The company has sent out 90,000 pieces this week alone.
Ford Motor Company bill be making 50,000 ventilators in the next 100 days.
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« Reply #717 on: March 31, 2020, 09:13:03 AM » |
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Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good, there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood? - John Prine 97 Tourer "Silver Bullet" 01 Interstate "Ruby" |
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« Reply #718 on: March 31, 2020, 10:12:39 AM » |
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« Reply #719 on: March 31, 2020, 10:31:28 AM » |
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Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away... IBA# 22107 VRCC# 7976 VRCCDS# 226 1998 Valkyrie Standard 2008 Gold Wing Taxation is theft. μολὼν λαβέ |
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