Romney....non Valk

[DIGGER]

I'm thinking Romney has committed political suicide.    Even if he runs for dog catcher ,if given the oportunity.....I'll never vote for him again for any office    I'm sure others out there feel the same.

[Willow]

I believe he was sincere although it escapes me how he could believe the "evidence" presented by the Democrats.

I agree his political success is over.  I don't believe the Republican voters of Utah will forgive this action.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I agree his political success is over.  I don't believe the Republican voters of Utah will forgive this action.

And that right there should prove to everyone Romney is bound by honor to his God versus loyalty to party.

[Bighead]

I agree his political success is over.  I don't believe the Republican voters of Utah will forgive this action.

And that right there should prove to everyone Romney is bound by honor to his God versus loyalty to party.

You eyes are seeing sideways Rob.

[MAD6Gun]

I agree his political success is over.  I don't believe the Republican voters of Utah will forgive this action.

And that right there should prove to everyone Romney is bound by honor to his God versus loyalty to party.

 So what does that make NJ Rep VanDrew who switched sides to the Republicans?

[Big Rig]

I agree his political success is over.  I don't believe the Republican voters of Utah will forgive this action.

And that right there should prove to everyone Romney is bound by honor to his God versus loyalty to party.

Now that is theeeee FUNNIEST thing you have EVER said!

[RP#62]

I agree his political success is over.  I don't believe the Republican voters of Utah will forgive this action.

And that right there should prove to everyone Romney is bound by honor to his God versus loyalty to party.

Now that is theeeee FUNNIEST thing you have EVER said!

True.  His earlier feud with Trump had nothing to do with it.  Strictly altruistic.

-RP

[The emperor has no clothes]

I agree his political success is over.  I don't believe the Republican voters of Utah will forgive this action.

And that right there should prove to everyone Romney is bound by honor to his God versus loyalty to party.

Now that is theeeee FUNNIEST thing you have EVER said!

True.  His earlier feud with Trump had nothing to do with it.  Strictly altruistic.

-RP

After seeing his speech, I think his feud had no bearing.

[carolinarider09]

Just for the record, here is a link to a list of the Presidential Medal of Freedom awards.

Among those listed you will find;  Ted Kennedy (Obama 2013), Joe Biden (Obama 2017) and Bill Clinton (Obama 2013).

 https://www.ranker.com/list/presidential-medal-of-freedom-winners/reference

[Serk]

The demonic spirit that was possessing McCain moved over to Romney after it was done with McCain.....

 

[Jess from VA]

Hey, they need dog catchers in Utah, don't they? 

However, as cogently pointed out by Mitch McConnell this evening.... Sen Romney has always been with us (in the Senate) in our platform and programs and we need his support going forward.

Yes we do.  For now.   

In the meantime, he will be wondering why his phone no longer rings. 

[baldo]

I think The Mittster will be just fine. I liked him as Governor of the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I think he did a great job. Mass has a bit of a history of Repub Governors and Dem legislatures.

And let's not forget that pre-ACA thing!

I wasn't a fan when he was a candidate. That whole "corporations are people, my friend" thing really pissed me off.

But I like him just fine right now...

[G-Man]

I think The Mittster will be just fine. I liked him as Governor of the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I think he did a great job. Mass has a bit of a history of Repub Governors and Dem legislatures.

And let's not forget that pre-ACA thing!

I wasn't a fan when he was a candidate. That whole "corporations are people, my friend" thing really pissed me off.

But I like him just fine right now...

So, now someone who invokes God in his governmental decisions is "just fine" with someone on the Left now?  Aren't we supposed to keep God and religion COMPLETELY out of our politics?  I saw an entire indoor stadium yelling and screaming to take God and religion out of the Left's politics, but when it helps the cause............... Go Romney!

[The emperor has no clothes]

Maybe one of the most heartfelt, honest speeches I've ever heard on the Senate floor.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=siWFNYgnJdE

[baldo]

I think The Mittster will be just fine. I liked him as Governor of the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I think he did a great job. Mass has a bit of a history of Repub Governors and Dem legislatures.

And let's not forget that pre-ACA thing!

I wasn't a fan when he was a candidate. That whole "corporations are people, my friend" thing really pissed me off.

But I like him just fine right now...

So, now someone who invokes God in his governmental decisions is "just fine" with someone on the Left now?  Aren't we supposed to keep God and religion COMPLETELY out of our politics?  I saw an entire indoor stadium yelling and screaming to take God and religion out of the Left's politics, but when it helps the cause............... Go Romney!

Nope, I'm not talking about any god thing. I'm talking about a Repub Senator that voted his conscience,  not in lockstep with the blind cowards on the right.

[f6john]

I think The Mittster will be just fine. I liked him as Governor of the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I think he did a great job. Mass has a bit of a history of Repub Governors and Dem legislatures.

And let's not forget that pre-ACA thing!

I wasn't a fan when he was a candidate. That whole "corporations are people, my friend" thing really pissed me off.

But I like him just fine right now...

So, now someone who invokes God in his governmental decisions is "just fine" with someone on the Left now?  Aren't we supposed to keep God and religion COMPLETELY out of our politics?  I saw an entire indoor stadium yelling and screaming to take God and religion out of the Left's politics, but when it helps the cause............... Go Romney!

Nope, I'm not talking about any god thing. I'm talking about a Repub Senator that voted his conscience,  not in lockstep with the blind cowards on the right.

And yet, Trump is still President.

[G-Man]

I think The Mittster will be just fine. I liked him as Governor of the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I think he did a great job. Mass has a bit of a history of Repub Governors and Dem legislatures.

And let's not forget that pre-ACA thing!

I wasn't a fan when he was a candidate. That whole "corporations are people, my friend" thing really pissed me off.

But I like him just fine right now...

So, now someone who invokes God in his governmental decisions is "just fine" with someone on the Left now?  Aren't we supposed to keep God and religion COMPLETELY out of our politics?  I saw an entire indoor stadium yelling and screaming to take God and religion out of the Left's politics, but when it helps the cause............... Go Romney!

Nope, I'm not talking about any god thing. I'm talking about a Repub Senator that voted his conscience,  not in lockstep with the blind cowards on the right.

But he invoked God in his "speech" for convicting soooooo many times.  He invoked God in his voting his concience.  It can't be removed from the equation.  HE'S the one who kept saying it, even brought him to almost fake tears, so it CAN'T be searated out.

And talk about cowards.............. Like how the cowardly Democrat house members behaved?  Lying on the floor of congress, especially Shiff, repeatedly.  Not allowing the defense to defend.  Secret interviews and then only leaking what makes their case.  Not following protocols by going to the courts to get their witnesses, voting straight down the party line to impeach, and then handing crap over to the Senate to fix the mess they made and then point fingers at the opposition for not doing their work for them.  Oh, and let's not forget the democrat representatives who have said that if they don't impeach, he will definitely win in November.  This whole thing was concocted and perpetrated on America due the cowards' fear of losing another election. 

The Republican Senators weren't cowards at all, they stood up for the process and checked the dirty crap the democrats were trying to pull.  I know process means nothing to folks with TDS, but in this country, process is EVERYTHING and is the only way to maintain fairness from one case to the next, from one person to the next.

[Chrisj CMA]

I think The Mittster will be just fine. I liked him as Governor of the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I think he did a great job. Mass has a bit of a history of Repub Governors and Dem legislatures.

And let's not forget that pre-ACA thing!

I wasn't a fan when he was a candidate. That whole "corporations are people, my friend" thing really pissed me off.

But I like him just fine right now...

So, now someone who invokes God in his governmental decisions is "just fine" with someone on the Left now?  Aren't we supposed to keep God and religion COMPLETELY out of our politics?  I saw an entire indoor stadium yelling and screaming to take God and religion out of the Left's politics, but when it helps the cause............... Go Romney!

Nope, I'm not talking about any god thing. I'm talking about a Repub Senator that voted his conscience,  not in lockstep with the blind cowards on the right.

I can respect one voting his conscience but cannot respect being dumb enough to believe the lies the house put forward

[baldo]

I think The Mittster will be just fine. I liked him as Governor of the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I think he did a great job. Mass has a bit of a history of Repub Governors and Dem legislatures.

And let's not forget that pre-ACA thing!

I wasn't a fan when he was a candidate. That whole "corporations are people, my friend" thing really pissed me off.

But I like him just fine right now...

So, now someone who invokes God in his governmental decisions is "just fine" with someone on the Left now?  Aren't we supposed to keep God and religion COMPLETELY out of our politics?  I saw an entire indoor stadium yelling and screaming to take God and religion out of the Left's politics, but when it helps the cause............... Go Romney!

Nope, I'm not talking about any god thing. I'm talking about a Repub Senator that voted his conscience,  not in lockstep with the blind cowards on the right.

But he invoked God in his "speech" for convicting soooooo many times.  He invoked God in his voting his concience.  It can't be removed from the equation.  HE'S the one who kept saying it, even brought him to almost fake tears, so it CAN'T be searated out.

And talk about cowards.............. Like how the cowardly Democrat house members behaved?  Lying on the floor of congress, especially Shiff, repeatedly.  Not allowing the defense to defend.  Secret interviews and then only leaking what makes their case.  Not following protocols by going to the courts to get their witnesses, voting straight down the party line to impeach, and then handing crap over to the Senate to fix the mess they made and then point fingers at the opposition for not doing their work for them.  Oh, and let's not forget the democrat representatives who have said that if they don't impeach, he will definitely win in November.  This whole thing was concocted and perpetrated on America due the cowards' fear of losing another election. 

The Republican Senators weren't cowards at all, they stood up for the process and checked the dirty crap the democrats were trying to pull.  I know process means nothing to folks with TDS, but in this country, process is EVERYTHING and is the only way to maintain fairness from one case to the next, from one person to the next.

Gary, I really don't have the energy to argue this. If you swap out every reference to democrat and replace it with republican, you'll have it correct.

[Willow]

I can respect one voting his conscience but cannot respect being dumb enough to believe the lies the house put forward

And that is why I can't believe his passionate speech.  Only a complete moron or one blinded by hate could accept the impersonation of evidence that was presented by the Democrats.

[RP#62]

Maybe one of the most heartfelt, honest speeches I've ever heard on the Senate floor.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=siWFNYgnJdE

I thought Trumps speech at the prayer breakfast was much more so.

-RP

[Tx Bohemian]

I think The Mittster will be just fine. I liked him as Governor of the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I think he did a great job. Mass has a bit of a history of Repub Governors and Dem legislatures.

And let's not forget that pre-ACA thing!

I wasn't a fan when he was a candidate. That whole "corporations are people, my friend" thing really pissed me off.

But I like him just fine right now...

So, now someone who invokes God in his governmental decisions is "just fine" with someone on the Left now?  Aren't we supposed to keep God and religion COMPLETELY out of our politics?  I saw an entire indoor stadium yelling and screaming to take God and religion out of the Left's politics, but when it helps the cause............... Go Romney!

Nope, I'm not talking about any god thing. I'm talking about a Repub Senator that voted his conscience,  not in lockstep with the blind cowards on the right.

And yet, Trump is still President.

And Acquitted!

[Alpha Dog]

I can respect one voting his conscience but cannot respect being dumb enough to believe the lies the house put forward

And that is why I can't believe his passionate speech.  Only a complete moron or one blinded by hate could accept the impersonation of evidence that was presented by the Democrats.

I believe the key word is blinded by hate. First in 2012 Trump went to bat for Romney and raised some serious money for him, maybe 2 million dollars.  I think back to the spring of 2016 when Romney arranged press conferences and made speeches trashing the heck out to Pres. Trump.  Of course Trump being Trump retaliated back.  Then  after the 2016 election Romney comes groveling back  to Trump to be Secretary of State.  Trump believing him to be sincere took him out to dinner and interviewed him for the job, but ultimately gave it to Rex Tillerson, so again Romney sulked.   Now in 2018 Romney again comes crawling to Romney to get Trump's endorsement for the Senate race, and Trump graciously obliges him.  After Romney wins ( he was a shoe in and why he wanted to be a Senator at his late stage in life baffles me ) again his  relationship with Trump all initiated by Romney becomes cantankerous and why.  I think Mittens still thinks he should be the face of the Republican party.  He was hoping this impeachment would take down Trump and at this stage of the game the party would come looking to Mittens to lead them to victory, but who knows.  I do think that he can not come to grips with Trumps version of putting the middle class, or the forgotten man and woman first.  I know he would love to go back to globalism ( or as I call it, America last ) and
let the world continue to  play us for fools.

Honor to his God,  yeah  I ain't buying that one.  Honor to himself as he sees it or a case of TDS is much more likely.

To summarize.  Romney is a phony. He will be who ever he needs to be at the moment to get to his end game.  He never understood middle America and never will, be that a silver spoon or whatever.  I guess he is the  consummate politician first.  On the other hand Pres. Trump is authentic and the most transparent leader we ever had.  He is not perfect, no one is and has his faults.  However he is the closest thing to Mr. Smith goes to Washington, and that ain't bad.   And I know this just grinds the gourd of Romney.

[G-Man]

I think The Mittster will be just fine. I liked him as Governor of the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I think he did a great job. Mass has a bit of a history of Repub Governors and Dem legislatures.

And let's not forget that pre-ACA thing!

I wasn't a fan when he was a candidate. That whole "corporations are people, my friend" thing really pissed me off.

But I like him just fine right now...

So, now someone who invokes God in his governmental decisions is "just fine" with someone on the Left now?  Aren't we supposed to keep God and religion COMPLETELY out of our politics?  I saw an entire indoor stadium yelling and screaming to take God and religion out of the Left's politics, but when it helps the cause............... Go Romney!

Nope, I'm not talking about any god thing. I'm talking about a Repub Senator that voted his conscience,  not in lockstep with the blind cowards on the right.

But he invoked God in his "speech" for convicting soooooo many times.  He invoked God in his voting his concience.  It can't be removed from the equation.  HE'S the one who kept saying it, even brought him to almost fake tears, so it CAN'T be searated out.

And talk about cowards.............. Like how the cowardly Democrat house members behaved?  Lying on the floor of congress, especially Shiff, repeatedly.  Not allowing the defense to defend.  Secret interviews and then only leaking what makes their case.  Not following protocols by going to the courts to get their witnesses, voting straight down the party line to impeach, and then handing crap over to the Senate to fix the mess they made and then point fingers at the opposition for not doing their work for them.  Oh, and let's not forget the democrat representatives who have said that if they don't impeach, he will definitely win in November.  This whole thing was concocted and perpetrated on America due the cowards' fear of losing another election. 

The Republican Senators weren't cowards at all, they stood up for the process and checked the dirty crap the democrats were trying to pull.  I know process means nothing to folks with TDS, but in this country, process is EVERYTHING and is the only way to maintain fairness from one case to the next, from one person to the next.

Gary, I really don't have the energy to argue this. If you swap out every reference to democrat and replace it with republican, you'll have it correct.

Got it.

Schiff's a Republican and the Republican lead House of reprentatives didn't do their job when the process was with the Republican lead House of Representatives and then the Republicans handed a half baked, unfinished thing to the Senate. 

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[9Ball]

The demonic spirit that was possessing McCain moved over to Romney after it was done with McCain.....

 

Shades of Marvel’s Venom...symbiotes.

[Robert]

And that right there should prove to everyone Romney is bound by honor to his God versus loyalty to party.

Romney is bound by greed to his god. 

[Rams]

I agree his political success is over.  I don't believe the Republican voters of Utah will forgive this action.

And that right there should prove to everyone Romney is bound by honor to his God versus loyalty to party.

 So what does that make NJ Rep Van Drew who switched sides to the Republicans?

No Response?   

I think The Mittster will be just fine. I liked him as Governor of the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I think he did a great job. Mass has a bit of a history of Repub Governors and Dem legislatures.

And let's not forget that pre-ACA thing!

I wasn't a fan when he was a candidate. That whole "corporations are people, my friend" thing really pissed me off.

But I like him just fine right now...

So, now someone who invokes God in his governmental decisions is "just fine" with someone on the Left now?  Aren't we supposed to keep God and religion COMPLETELY out of our politics?  I saw an entire indoor stadium yelling and screaming to take God and religion out of the Left's politics, but when it helps the cause............... Go Romney!

Nope, I'm not talking about any god thing. I'm talking about a Repub Senator that voted his conscience,  not in lockstep with the blind cowards on the right.

While I don't agree with Senator Romney, it was his vote to cast as he saw fit.   Many are congratulating him for following his conscience.   OK what about the Dems that crossed over, do they not get any credit for following their conscience?   IIRC, one actually left the Democratic Party.   Seems he voted his conscience also.

Bob???

Rams

[G-Man]

Romney is bound by greed to his god. 

A few years ago Romney was a rich, capitalistic, racist, white man who put people in the poor house and ripped health insurance away from cancer patients.  Today he is a brave person who fought the system and all costs.  A man of concsience who looked deep into his soul.

He's a moron who voted to kick the President out of office over nothing and leave his party without a Presidential candidate 9 months before an election. 

[Pete]

Right, wrong or indifferent, Romney with his own actions:

has accomplished two things -----adding his name to the dustbin of history as a poor looser and equating it to Arnold, like in Benedict.

Sad to see someone self destruct for any reason.

[Jersey mike]

I call BS on Romney and his holier than thou platform. If he was as holy a man as he proclaims, he would know you don’t boast or brag about your prayer, you keep that stuff private. There is even a scripture written about this but it’s been so long since Catholic school it slips my mind. It was something along the line of if you practice in public you get your reward here on earth, but one who practices is private gets his reward in heaven.

[baldo]

IIRC, one actually left the Democratic Party.   Seems he voted his conscience also.

Bob???

Rams

I really don't know anything about him. I suspect it might be about his district and/or his chances for re-election.

[f6john]

IIRC, one actually left the Democratic Party.   Seems he voted his conscience also.

Bob???

Rams

I really don't know anything about him. I suspect it might be about his district and/or his chances for re-election.

Yeah, yeah that’s it that’s the ticket, what else could it be!

[baldo]

IIRC, one actually left the Democratic Party.   Seems he voted his conscience also.

Bob???

Rams

I really don't know anything about him. I suspect it might be about his district and/or his chances for re-election.

Yeah, yeah that’s it that’s the ticket, what else could it be!

What do you think ? Got any ideas?

[..]

Listen to Romney again.

How many times did he mention his constituents?

How many times did he say "I"?

[Bighead]

I think The Mittster will be just fine. I liked him as Governor of the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts. I think he did a great job. Mass has a bit of a history of Repub Governors and Dem legislatures.

And let's not forget that pre-ACA thing!

I wasn't a fan when he was a candidate. That whole "corporations are people, my friend" thing really pissed me off.

But I like him just fine right now...

So, now someone who invokes God in his governmental decisions is "just fine" with someone on the Left now?  Aren't we supposed to keep God and religion COMPLETELY out of our politics?  I saw an entire indoor stadium yelling and screaming to take God and religion out of the Left's politics, but when it helps the cause............... Go Romney!

Nope, I'm not talking about any god thing. I'm talking about a Repub Senator that voted his conscience,  not in lockstep with the blind cowards on the right.

But he invoked God in his "speech" for convicting soooooo many times.  He invoked God in his voting his concience.  It can't be removed from the equation.  HE'S the one who kept saying it, even brought him to almost fake tears, so it CAN'T be searated out.

And talk about cowards.............. Like how the cowardly Democrat house members behaved?  Lying on the floor of congress, especially Shiff, repeatedly.  Not allowing the defense to defend.  Secret interviews and then only leaking what makes their case.  Not following protocols by going to the courts to get their witnesses, voting straight down the party line to impeach, and then handing crap over to the Senate to fix the mess they made and then point fingers at the opposition for not doing their work for them.  Oh, and let's not forget the democrat representatives who have said that if they don't impeach, he will definitely win in November.  This whole thing was concocted and perpetrated on America due the cowards' fear of losing another election. 

The Republican Senators weren't cowards at all, they stood up for the process and checked the dirty crap the democrats were trying to pull.  I know process means nothing to folks with TDS, but in this country, process is EVERYTHING and is the only way to maintain fairness from one case to the next, from one person to the next.

Gary you are 100% accurate on this my friend.

[Rams]

IIRC, one actually left the Democratic Party.   Seems he voted his conscience also.

Bob???

Rams

I really don't know anything about him. I suspect it might be about his district and/or his chances for re-election.

Always a possibility.
The same could be true of Romney.   Or, possibly just bad blood between himself and Trump or, he may be telling the truth.   I don't tend to trust many politicians whether they invoke their religion or not.   Speaker Pelosi being an excellent example.

Rams

[Willow]

I really don't know anything about him. I suspect it might be about his district and/or his chances for re-election.

Always a possibility.
The same could be true of Romney.   Or, possibly just bad blood between himself and Trump or, he may be telling the truth.   I don't tend to trust many politicians whether they invoke their religion or not.   Speaker Pelosi being an excellent example.

Not likely regarding Romney.  Utah has been electing Republican senators for some time.  I think in Romney's case it will end his political career in Utah.

[G-Man]

BTW, the God Romney invoked in order to come to his enlightened decision..........

lives on planet Kolob.

[f6john]

IIRC, one actually left the Democratic Party.   Seems he voted his conscience also.

Bob???

Rams

I really don't know anything about him. I suspect it might be about his district and/or his chances for re-election.

Yeah, yeah that’s it that’s the ticket, what else could it be!

What do you think ? Got any ideas?

He finally saw the light? I did a little reading and found that he made it clear that he would not and did not support Pelosi for speaker, he voted against the impeachment investigation and he voted against the articles of impeachment. I think he was a Democrat as that was the predominant party in his local politics. Local politics can differ vastly from national party political positions. Until the impeachment process ramped up he voted with his fellow Democrats 89% of the time. I realize anything less than 100% in lockstep is not acceptable in the Democratic House.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I realize anything less than 100% in lockstep is not acceptable in the Democratic House.

Your realization is completely inaccurate. There are multiple members not in “lockstep”.