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« on: February 19, 2020, 05:48:37 AM »

Just curious......when on a long distance Valkyrie trip how many miles a day do you like to ride if you are on the interstate pushing for mileage but not overdoing it,?   How about on mostly 2 lane roads going thru small towns?  Me on the interstate about 550-600.....2 lanes 450-500.
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2020, 05:56:09 AM »

Just curious......when on a long distance Valkyrie trip how many miles a day do you like to ride if you are on the interstate pushing for mileage but not overdoing it,?   How about on mostly 2 lane roads going thru small towns?  Me on the interstate about 550-600.....2 lanes 450-500.

 Then and now I usually do about 500 miles a day. Nice round number. Other then one 867 mile day coming back from MN years ago that continues to be the way I ride.
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2020, 05:59:34 AM »

Can only speak for myself.   Although I have several "Iron Butt" rides under my belt, everyone of them was because I had a long ways to go and a short time to get there.   I don't do it for any silly award.

When I'm in such situations, I'm always gonna take the quickest route which is normally super slab.
Reference leisurely two lane roads, I'll normally run a couple tanks of fuel through the fat lady just for fun.   The distance obviously depends on how spirited the ride is.

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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2020, 06:07:20 AM »

I did 500 miles last March, returning to Cincinnati from Attic Rat's location in Tulsa on a combination of secondary roads and a little interstate.  It was cold toward the end of the day, and I was tired.  Stayed in Cairo, IL (what a dump) and made the remainder 400 miles the next day.

Terry S. and I rode back from the Yooper ride last year which was 571 for me, but all interstate.  He had another 100 to go.

350 or so seems a good number to me.  
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2020, 06:15:58 AM »

Back when I was attending Daytona Bike Week it would be a 12-14 hour 750 mile day. Not really fun after about 500 miles for me but always being on a tight budget didn’t want to spring for a motel room when we usually had a house rented for the week waiting for us we we arrived. Usually between 4 and 8 riders traveling together and sharing the rental. Good times!
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2020, 06:30:50 AM »

Can only speak for myself.   Although I have several "Iron Butt" rides under my belt, everyone of them was because I had a long ways to go and a short time to get there.   

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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2020, 06:37:25 AM »

A Typical day ride for me is around 500.
A lunch ride is around 350.
A quick ride to swap out fuel is 100
Although I do enjoy riding from before sun up to sundown several times during the summer months.

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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2020, 08:07:29 AM »

All my working years my motorcycle trips were fast and furious.  I now mostly take motorcycle trips with my Harley buddy and he can do about 400 a day max if we are trying to make time.   If anything ever happened to my wife, God forbid, I think I would like to take another long trip out west and go sbout 300-350 a day for about a month or so by myself.   Have never taken a long motorcycle trip that I wasnt in a hurry.    However, I have taken 2 different motorcycle trips out west that I took back roads and traveled by my self with no destination.... just a direction.    My two favorite trips.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2020, 08:12:55 AM »

All my working years my motorcycle trips were fast and furious.  I now mostly take motorcycle trips with my Harley buddy and he can do about 400 a day max if we are trying to make time.   If anything ever happened to my wife, God forbid, I think I would like to take another long trip out west and go sbout 300-350 a day for about a month or so by myself.   Have never taken a long motorcycle trip that I wasnt in a hurry.    However, I have taken 2 different motorcycle trips out west that I took back roads and traveled by my self with no destination.... just a direction.    My two favorite trips.

Sounds like a great trip(s).

I have considered taking off with DDT (Bruce) a few times but, I am not sure I’d be able to keep up.  I’m not the Energizer Bunny....  Smiley

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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2020, 08:24:19 AM »

    However, I have taken 2 different motorcycle trips out west that I took back roads and traveled by my self with no destination.... just a direction.    My two favorite trips.

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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2020, 08:32:09 AM »

500 to 650 on mixed SS and 2 lane. Really depends on where I need to be and when...I would prefer all 2 land back country roads with lots o twisties...

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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2020, 08:36:53 AM »

I make the trip from SE WI to north-central FL several times a year. I generally stop north of Nashville but have been known to push on if I will miss rush hour traffic around Nashville to either Chattanooga or Montgomery depending upon route. Trip total is just over 1100 miles one way and I find the trip an easy two day ride without pushing hard.

So short answer is if I have a destination in mind 550+ miles per day is comfortable. A day ride on back roads trying to get nowhere in particular could be as little as 350 miles (the Mississippi River and back) or as much as an Iron Butt award. I have done that when I get further from home than intended and have obligations the next day.

A trip to the local hardware store could be in that 350 mile range on the Local Lady, never more than 50 miles on the Norton. Just saying......
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2020, 08:38:03 AM »

It depends on the circumstances and who I am riding with.

Riding with non-retired friends who have a limit on the time they can take off, going west for instance from SC, 500 miles per day, mostly four lane interstate roads in that case.

Riding by myself, now, 300 - 350 miles per day.  Not in a hurry, take my time, no rush, like to get in the motel before dark, avoid 4 lanes or other "interstate" like highways as much as possible.  

Riding by myself but with the wife along, 250 miles to 300 miles per day.  She likes to get up late so, we don't get on the road before 9, maybe 9:30 or so, depending.  Same roads avoidance as above.

Having a shorter riding day also lets us navigate around rain and such.

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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2020, 08:46:22 AM »

Back in the 70's we did 700 miles on I-80 interstate on our 750 Honda in 12 hrs uglystupid2
In 2011 We did 525 miles on mostly two lanes returning from Eureka Springs trying to stay ahead of bad weather once. Wife said that was the last time doing that!  tickedoff
As senior citizens now our riding has changed to a leisurely pace and if it aint comfy we don't do it. 300 to 400 a day is enough.  coolsmiley

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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2020, 08:48:12 AM »

           When I was still touring-think Inzanes-500  600 mile day(s) I considered "normal". When da prez and Tommy Tailgate and I went to I-16 we took a night on the road-motel. Seemed to me it was 850ish from my Brothers casa. Instead of one long kick azz day we split it into 2 rather nice days. Course going west we slabbed it cuz da prez and I wanted to attend the Illinois freedom Ride that next day. Tommy had other commitments. I've done over 500 miles on a ride after Church on a Sunday. My breathing issues have caught up with me.  Lips Sealed I still LUV to ride i just don't go near as far. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2020, 09:42:05 AM »

Every one has a different comfort zone as far as long distance travel mileage.   One is not better than the other.   Just wondering.....DDT.....ha......since you travel long distance more than anyone I have ever heard of.......when you are traveling long distance on the interstate....not really in a hurry.....what kind of mileage do you feel comfortable with traveling in a day on a multi day trip?
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2020, 11:02:34 AM »

Many of my longer multi-day rides over the decades have been have been 2-up with the Mrs, and most of those have been just us. When it's just us we usually don't have an exact destination in mind or any type of hard time schedule...in these instances and when we just want to cover some ground without a lot of stops we'll typically go anywhere from around 500 up to 600 miles a day...that has been about her limit. Solo, I usually like to push up to the 700 range if I'm just on my own with no specific agenda. Longest distance day in recent years was about 850 miles from Grand Forks ND to Cutbank MT with a couple of sightseeing detours, on my way home from Morgantown Inzane...that was a great day.

In recent years, we have enjoyed riding with Valkyrie friends we've made from other parts of BC and WA...length of days vary greatly in these instances...usually to the lesser side of things, as there's a lot more of a social element involved on these trips. While I've always enjoyed long solo days in the saddle, this new(er) way of riding for us with more stops has become just as enjoyable for me.
A good day ride is usually in the 300-500 mile range. One thing that I find truly amazing, is that I'm still on my now 16 year old Corbin seat....in pretty decent shape but hard as a rock. It just seems to fit me perfectly, so with the help of a barely inflated AirHawk seatpad on longer rides, my old a** never complains Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2020, 11:50:45 AM »

For many yearsfathers Day, Minneapolis to Cincinnati 780 miles door to door in one day, Slab all the  way. My best was 830 miles on a 84 Wing and a 97 Magna. The Wing was from Holland MI to Cadott Wisconsin going up 75  the UP. I was sure glad he was home as I would have continued on home to Minneapolis. The 97 Magna was returning home from the Honda Hoot in Asheville. I believe we called it a day in Illinois some where. Now days we do a week  based out of Kimberling city MO each year.  That is still an easy one day run from Minneapolis.
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2020, 12:28:58 PM »

500 to 700 typically going to inzanes
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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2020, 01:34:23 PM »

Except when I intend to make my destination in one day for sure no matter what, I really don't calculate miles.

However many miles I may make (freeway or 4-2- lane), I don't want to be riding any more than around 8 hours, not counting breaks.

And when I ride for distance, I never stop and eat sitting down, I may get a sandwich and eat it standing by the bike; stops are for gas, piss, walk round, clean windshield, headlights and glasses, and go in 15-20 minutes.  If I eat a full meal, I will be falling asleep and riding into a ditch in about an hour or so (I did that once).  And it's even worse in the comfort of a car/truck.  I don't eat much when I travel car or bike.

I use nicotine and Wrigley's spearmint (and water).  

And man I have to lay off the coffee first thing in the morning on any trip.  (I could never figure this out, but with three cups of coffee, I have to piss three quarts later..... but never all at once, I gotta mark my territory like a dog all along the way tickedoff)    
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2020, 02:42:20 PM »



And man I have to lay off the coffee first thing in the morning on any trip.  (I could never figure this out, but with three cups of coffee, I have to piss three quarts later..... but never all at once, I gotta mark my territory like a dog all along the way tickedoff)    
Especially over the past several years, I've always thought that our Valks are the perfect motorcycle for guys of our vintage,,,in that the intervals where they need to stop to fill up, matches up quite well with the intervals where we need to stop to empty... 
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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2020, 05:00:31 AM »

If you're looking for a specific number or even an approximate average... I'm afraid I can't help you beyond offering this: My personal 'comfort average' is somewhere between 1 and 1,000 miles per day... but that's not what you're looking for, is it? Sorry, but I'm afraid that's the best I can offer...

We do what we have to do... If time and/or budgets are limited and distances to cover are long, then we make the necessary adjustments and... we just do it! When I needed to back in the day, I did an occasional 'unofficial Iron Butt', but when time is not a serious factor, then I just roll with the flow... No set 'target', I just start riding when I feel like it, and I stop when I no longer feel like it. Naturally, motel availability, weather, road conditions, etc., can influence those calls at the margin...

Many times I've ridden longer days than I'd thought I would, but then I've started out on a 'typical' day, and stopped after less than 30 miles... No fooling, that has happened several times! I've stopped in Podunk towns just because I needed to get off the road, and ended up staying several days... even a couple of months on a couple of occasions! Once I was hired to be a bartender after stopping for breakfast... 'that career' lasted just under an hour, but the visit itself turned into four days...

The actual length of any typical day even defies specificity in my case... Health, for example... If I am coming down with a cold, or if cumulative fatigue from many days in the saddle is starting to weaken me, the days get shorter. If I'm 'on top of my game' and nothing interesting occurs, those days can stretch out considerably... My own physical stamina is evolving with age... In my early seventies now, I don't have near the range I did twenty or thirty years ago... so I adjust accordingly.

Physical realities vary from one individual to the next, indeed, from one day to the next for a specific individual. Prudence requires us to cater to those factors as appropriate!

Flexibility and availability are keys... Many times on fuel and/or meal stops I've encountered 'characters' that simply couldn't be passed by! Had that silent clock been ticking and pressure to press on been present, I would have missed some of my best memories! When I was riding long distances before retirement, that happened all too often... Nowadays, not so much...

It's all relative... What are you physically capable of? How do you feel on a given day? How much time and money do you have available? Where are you trying to go... and what all are you trying to accomplish on this ride? What is your personal preference? Is any ride more of a physical experience aboard a two-wheeled vehicle, or is it more of a spiritual experience? Are you seeking views and sights, or historical sites? Are you 'learning' or exploring?

Any trip for any individual is different from that for any other... It's all 'jis corrdin'... Good luck finding what works best for you...

DDT
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2020, 05:52:22 AM »

If you're looking for a specific number or even an approximate average... I'm afraid I can't help you beyond offering this: My personal 'comfort average' is somewhere between 1 and 1,000 miles per day... but that's not what you're looking for, is it? Sorry, but I'm afraid that's the best I can offer...

We do what we have to do... If time and/or budgets are limited and distances to cover are long, then we make the necessary adjustments and... we just do it! When I needed to back in the day, I did an occasional 'unofficial Iron Butt', but when time is not a serious factor, then I just roll with the flow... No set 'target', I just start riding when I feel like it, and I stop when I no longer feel like it. Naturally, motel availability, weather, road conditions, etc., can influence those calls at the margin...

Many times I've ridden longer days than I'd thought I would, but then I've started out on a 'typical' day, and stopped after less than 30 miles... No fooling, that has happened several times! I've stopped in Podunk towns just because I needed to get off the road, and ended up staying several days... even a couple of months on a couple of occasions! Once I was hired to be a bartender after stopping for breakfast... 'that career' lasted just under an hour, but the visit itself turned into four days...

The actual length of any typical day even defies specificity in my case... Health, for example... If I am coming down with a cold, or if cumulative fatigue from many days in the saddle is starting to weaken me, the days get shorter. If I'm 'on top of my game' and nothing interesting occurs, those days can stretch out considerably... My own physical stamina is evolving with age... In my early seventies now, I don't have near the range I did twenty or thirty years ago... so I adjust accordingly.

Physical realities vary from one individual to the next, indeed, from one day to the next for a specific individual. Prudence requires us to cater to those factors as appropriate!

Flexibility and availability are keys... Many times on fuel and/or meal stops I've encountered 'characters' that simply couldn't be passed by! Had that silent clock been ticking and pressure to press on been present, I would have missed some of my best memories! When I was riding long distances before retirement, that happened all too often... Nowadays, not so much...

It's all relative... What are you physically capable of? How do you feel on a given day? How much time and money do you have available? Where are you trying to go... and what all are you trying to accomplish on this ride? What is your personal preference? Is any ride more of a physical experience aboard a two-wheeled vehicle, or is it more of a spiritual experience? Are you seeking views and sights, or historical sites? Are you 'learning' or exploring?

Any trip for any individual is different from that for any other... It's all 'jis corrdin'... Good luck finding what works best for you...

DDT
1 hour ? I would think you’d make an excellent bartender. I guess some of us are just better suited to a certain side of the bar.
 As far as riding distances, I have to agree with you. It all depends. The most I ever did was many moons ago. I was on a 1 year vision quest with a Yamaha 750. I spent a couple months visiting my grandparents trying to figure out my next step in life. Decided to sign up in the Navy. Didn’t want to leave my bike in the Rio Grande Valley, when I would be in San Diego. Rode 1300 miles the first day.
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2020, 06:04:19 AM »

When we're doing cross country trips I usually plan for about 500 miles a day unless I know we're going to stop to see something.  For us, beyond 500 miles starts to be work.  We've found though that if we stop once between gas stops, even if its just for 5 or 10 min (to let your butt pop back out), we can pretty much go all day regardless of the miles.

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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2020, 05:38:11 PM »

If you're looking for a specific number or even an approximate average... I'm afraid I can't help you beyond offering this: My personal 'comfort average' is somewhere between 1 and 1,000 miles per day... but that's not what you're looking for, is it? Sorry, but I'm afraid that's the best I can offer...

We do what we have to do... If time and/or budgets are limited and distances to cover are long, then we make the necessary adjustments and... we just do it! When I needed to back in the day, I did an occasional 'unofficial Iron Butt', but when time is not a serious factor, then I just roll with the flow... No set 'target', I just start riding when I feel like it, and I stop when I no longer feel like it. Naturally, motel availability, weather, road conditions, etc., can influence those calls at the margin...

Many times I've ridden longer days than I'd thought I would, but then I've started out on a 'typical' day, and stopped after less than 30 miles... No fooling, that has happened several times! I've stopped in Podunk towns just because I needed to get off the road, and ended up staying several days... even a couple of months on a couple of occasions! Once I was hired to be a bartender after stopping for breakfast... 'that career' lasted just under an hour, but the visit itself turned into four days...

The actual length of any typical day even defies specificity in my case... Health, for example... If I am coming down with a cold, or if cumulative fatigue from many days in the saddle is starting to weaken me, the days get shorter. If I'm 'on top of my game' and nothing interesting occurs, those days can stretch out considerably... My own physical stamina is evolving with age... In my early seventies now, I don't have near the range I did twenty or thirty years ago... so I adjust accordingly.

Physical realities vary from one individual to the next, indeed, from one day to the next for a specific individual. Prudence requires us to cater to those factors as appropriate!

Flexibility and availability are keys... Many times on fuel and/or meal stops I've encountered 'characters' that simply couldn't be passed by! Had that silent clock been ticking and pressure to press on been present, I would have missed some of my best memories! When I was riding long distances before retirement, that happened all too often... Nowadays, not so much...

It's all relative... What are you physically capable of? How do you feel on a given day? How much time and money do you have available? Where are you trying to go... and what all are you trying to accomplish on this ride? What is your personal preference? Is any ride more of a physical experience aboard a two-wheeled vehicle, or is it more of a spiritual experience? Are you seeking views and sights, or historical sites? Are you 'learning' or exploring?

Any trip for any individual is different from that for any other... It's all 'jis corrdin'... Good luck finding what works best for you...

DDT

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« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2020, 02:16:12 PM »

Rode from Alabama to the left coast a few years back. (Had my Harley riding buddy with me). Was back home on day 13 and spent 4 nights in commiefornia I mean California.  So about 5500 miles to and fro in 9 days. And that wasnt pushing it hard. But my buddy has only ridden one time with me since and that was almost 8 yrs ago 2funny 2funny 2funny
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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2020, 05:19:17 PM »

Almost 50 yrs ago, central NYS to north Miami in 19 hrs.  Trip once almost 50 yrs to west coast did 700-800 miles a day a couple times.  Certainly wouldn't consider anything close to that now.
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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2020, 10:07:54 PM »

Almost 50 yrs ago, central NYS to north Miami in 19 hrs.  Trip once almost 50 yrs to west coast did 700-800 miles a day a couple times.  Certainly wouldn't consider anything close to that now.

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« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2020, 07:25:44 AM »

I used to do an annual "Spring Head Cleaning Ride". Solo, leave after breakfast telling the wife I'd be home for dinner. Or not. I've found myself riding as much as 5-600 miles while never getting much more than 100 from home.
Several times I've ridden from home in MI to Alcoa TN on the slab in a day to go play in the mountains for a few days, working my way home on secondary roads.
Sadly, all the "itises" are ganging up on me and I only ride for a few hours locally when I can now.
Hate to admit it, but I may need to invest in a trailer........  Undecided
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« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2020, 01:50:37 PM »

Almost 50 yrs ago, central NYS to north Miami in 19 hrs.  Trip once almost 50 yrs to west coast did 700-800 miles a day a couple times.  Certainly wouldn't consider anything close to that now.

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« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2020, 03:58:06 PM »

My riding is in state, most miles around 300, short 15 to 40, depending on weather 2 or 3 times a week, mostly short rides.    Sad
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« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2020, 05:29:13 PM »

Last long fun trip was 14 days from ny by way of Charliemac's (what a great guy) then west to Beverly Hills with some detours to Valkers and Zion then to f6gals and BigBF then to GOTF then with wild bunch to near Hattiesburg then home

Low 700s on the longest day  0 on another of those days as Bonnie's friend drove me around the Pacific Coast highways thru BelAir and Malibu and Santa Monica   Nice place to visit but glad I don't live there.

Wild6 rode his Valk from Western NJ to Friendswood TX in 2 days and back in 2 days  I could not do that.

Anyone hear from him?   Hope he is ok

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« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2020, 07:39:38 PM »

I did a ride from Huntsville Alabama to Key West and back home in 4 days in February a few years back. Why? Why not? coolsmiley
1st day ended in Daytona
2nd day in Key west
3rd day in Tampa
4th day back home
So day one was just north of 600, day two 400 day three just over 400 and day four about 650.
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« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2020, 07:04:06 AM »

The longest ride on the Valk was US RT1. 3 of us decided it would be a good thing to do. Well, actually 2 thought it was the thing to do. So, we went from central NYS to Fort Kent and turned south on RT1 ending up at MM 0 on the corner of Caroline and Whitehead. Then we eventually had to turn around and head back north to NYS. I must be getting soft in my old age as I  prefer to jump in an aeroplane, its a bit faster and easier on the backside.
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« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2020, 07:22:59 AM »

Almost 50 yrs ago, central NYS to north Miami in 19 hrs.  Trip once almost 50 yrs to west coast did 700-800 miles a day a couple times.  Certainly wouldn't consider anything close to that now.

What we're you riding?

Heck of a ride in its day



Triumph with 750 Sonny Routt kit.
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Patrick
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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2020, 11:22:04 AM »

Almost 50 yrs ago, central NYS to north Miami in 19 hrs.  Trip once almost 50 yrs to west coast did 700-800 miles a day a couple times.  Certainly wouldn't consider anything close to that now.

What we're you riding?

Heck of a ride in its day



Triumph with 750 Sonny Routt kit.



I liked English stuff then, [ still do], especially Triumph. That bike was bought totaled from an insurance company. I knew it had a cracked primary case, didn't notice it had a cracked cylinder. So I had a chance to get the Routt kit, it really came alive. If I knew how to post a pic I think have some of it.
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baird4444
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« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2020, 10:41:29 PM »

When I am Road Tripping I like to get out at sunrise and go till dinner. The limiting factor is the roads that I'm on. 10 or 12 hours will net me a long day and maybe 500 miles on the 2 lanes with a lotta towns. 2 years ago I pulled out of seward Nebraska at 6:15AM and into  my drive in Montrose Colorado, 12 hours and 750 miles later...  love the wide open Interstates of the west!
 I guess the the factors are your riding time and the road you are on....    not everyone likes the 10hr day....   Know your limits, don't over do it. and enjoy the ride.
         
                 - Mike
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