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Really?? Did you vote for Hillary? If Trump solicited illegal campaign help, why is he not in jail or impeached? I suppose for the same reason Hillary isn't in jail for any number of her illegal activities.
As far as medicare and social security goes, you're damn right I'm not willing to give up what I have been unwillingly paying for for 40 years. You have confused a benefit with something that is owed me. I would however have no problem with medicare and social security being given up by people that have never paid a dime into it.
I hope you make an informed choice in November.
Ummmmm......he has been impeached. Forever part of that small, three-member group. Ah yes, he has been impeached. But an impeachment that shall be forever IN THE SHADOW OF A GREAT AND FABULOUS ACQUITTAL!  |
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« Reply #81 on: February 24, 2020, 12:31:44 PM » |
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Really?? Did you vote for Hillary? If Trump solicited illegal campaign help, why is he not in jail or impeached? I suppose for the same reason Hillary isn't in jail for any number of her illegal activities.
As far as medicare and social security goes, you're damn right I'm not willing to give up what I have been unwillingly paying for for 40 years. You have confused a benefit with something that is owed me. I would however have no problem with medicare and social security being given up by people that have never paid a dime into it.
I hope you make an informed choice in November.
Ummmmm......he has been impeached. Forever part of that small, three-member group. NOT GUILTY, INNOCENT, just because you accuse does not make it true. No matter how long you wish and dream, Trump will always be --NOT GUILTY. |
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« Reply #83 on: February 24, 2020, 01:14:57 PM » |
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« Reply #84 on: February 24, 2020, 01:43:45 PM » |
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« Reply #85 on: February 24, 2020, 04:55:45 PM » |
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Exactly. Now just imagine if there had been a real trial...... You know, with evidence and witness testimony. It's almost like people are afraid of what might happen..... |
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« Reply #86 on: February 24, 2020, 04:59:25 PM » |
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« Reply #87 on: February 24, 2020, 05:08:47 PM » |
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Exactly. Now just imagine if there had been a real trial...... You know, with evidence and witness testimony. It's almost like people are afraid of what might happen..... LOL! Imagine what wouldn't have been if there had been a real impeachment process in the House. You know, one interested in real facts rather than speculation; one that actually involved the House of Representatives rather than only one party; one that didn't begin with secret hearings. Perhaps it would have been meaningful if it wasn't the result of a three year search to find a reason to impeach the opposition executive. That search certainly started well before the event of the alleged impeachment. I actually wasted a lot of time watching the facade that took place in the House and was flabbergasted at how much concern the Democrats expressed that the trial in the Senate may not be "fair".  |
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« Reply #88 on: February 24, 2020, 05:16:59 PM » |
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Exactly. Now just imagine if there had been a real trial...... You know, with evidence and witness testimony. It's almost like people are afraid of what might happen..... LOL! Imagine what wouldn't have been if there had been a real impeachment process in the House. You know, one interested in real facts rather than speculation; one that actually involved the House of Representatives rather than only one party; one that didn't begin with secret hearings. Perhaps it would have been meaningful if it wasn't the result of a three year search to find a reason to impeach the opposition executive. That search certainly started well before the event of the alleged impeachment. I actually wasted a lot of time watching the facade that took place in the House and was flabbergasted at how much concern the Democrats expressed that the trial in the Senate may not be "fair". This exactly! But being dedicated to finding fault with every breath Trump takes we will never receive any acknowledgement of the farce the Democrats produced. |
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« Reply #89 on: February 24, 2020, 05:36:55 PM » |
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This exactly! But being dedicated to finding fault with every breath Trump takes we will never receive any acknowledgement of the farce the Democrats produced.
I'm really hoping we DO get some acknowledgement of the (mean spirited, hand crafted, unfair, spun and twisted) farce the Democrats (and MSM) has produced in future elections, everywhere, and across party, race and gender lines. (if not youth)
I know TDS is nearly as bad as corona-virus, and I know a great many idiots really believe they want socialism and UN agenda here in our country, but I am hoping that level headed, thinking Americans show up to the polls and vote that BS down the toilet.
We'll see.
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« Reply #90 on: February 24, 2020, 05:47:55 PM » |
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Exactly. Now just imagine if there had been a real trial...... You know, with evidence and witness testimony. It's almost like people are afraid of what might happen..... LOL! Imagine what wouldn't have been if there had been a real impeachment process in the House. You know, one interested in real facts rather than speculation; one that actually involved the House of Representatives rather than only one party; one that didn't begin with secret hearings. Perhaps it would have been meaningful if it wasn't the result of a three year search to find a reason to impeach the opposition executive. That search certainly started well before the event of the alleged impeachment. I actually wasted a lot of time watching the facade that took place in the House and was flabbergasted at how much concern the Democrats expressed that the trial in the Senate may not be "fair". "You can choose to be part of the problem or part of the solution. I hope it's not too late. Just so you know it is a pain in the ass trying to maintain some civility here. It didn't used to be so much."   |
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« Reply #91 on: February 24, 2020, 06:17:38 PM » |
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Exactly. Now just imagine if there had been a real trial...... You know, with evidence and witness testimony. It's almost like people are afraid of what might happen..... LOL! Imagine what wouldn't have been if there had been a real impeachment process in the House. You know, one interested in real facts rather than speculation; one that actually involved the House of Representatives rather than only one party; one that didn't begin with secret hearings. Perhaps it would have been meaningful if it wasn't the result of a three year search to find a reason to impeach the opposition executive. That search certainly started well before the event of the alleged impeachment. I actually wasted a lot of time watching the facade that took place in the House and was flabbergasted at how much concern the Democrats expressed that the trial in the Senate may not be "fair". Just so you know it is a pain in the ass trying to maintain some civility here. It didn't used to be so much." Civility is or can be a state of mind. I have zero problem maintaining my own civility. |
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« Reply #93 on: February 24, 2020, 07:35:59 PM » |
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Imagine this, We all know about the Corona Virus and the effect it's having on populations all over the globe, it will eventually effect the US in a very dramatic way (even if it doesn't spread it's health effects here). China's and much of the rest of the manufacturing world has basically shut down it production and shipping products. Cities, districts, regions and nations are starting to self-quarantine or their boundaries are being blocked by surrounding governments. This will have an effect on our economy regardless of who is in the Oval Office. Now, add to that a Bernie Sanders administration with all his socialist ideas. Life in such a world will not be pleasant for any of us. The upper 5% with wealth will barely be affected, anyone who thinks differently is being foolish. Democrat or Republican won't matter, the wealthy will not suffer but, if Sanders and his proposed programs and policies are allowed to come to fruition, IMHO the middle class is doomed to die and we will all be lower class, taxed at unbelievably high rates. This will not be fun. Just my opinion, it ain't worth much but, it is all mine. BTW, back in the 60s when Sanders was in college, he claimed Conscientious Objector status. He later voted to send our troops to war. https://thepeaceresource.com/2019/02/20/bernie-is-a-war-guy-not-what-we-need/ Needless to say, I have a very hard time building any respect for this coward. But then, when my number came up in the draft, I immediately went to see my Marine recruiter and joined. Opinions may vary on this but, I don't give a damn. Sanders is lower than whale crap. Rams |
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What a crock.
But the planet won't have to pay for it, we will.
The planet would probably resist helping us pay our taxes to save it.
I do believe the man is a lunatic. (this is an honest opinion on mental status, not disrespect)
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« Reply #95 on: February 25, 2020, 03:44:06 AM » |
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Bernie and Jane Sanders Hire Top Attorneys in FBI Fraud Investigation, Reports Say
The U.S. Senator's wife is accused of fraudulently obtaining a bank loan on behalf of Burlington College when she was president there.
The couple has retained Rich Cassidy, a well-connected Burlington attorney and Sanders devotee, and Larry Robbins, the renowned Washington-based defense attorney who has represented I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby and disgraced former Rep. Bill Jefferson, to represent Jane Sanders in the matter.
So on the thinking of some here, Sanders wife is still guilty? I dont think many here could afford this pricey a defense either. She did not live up to her promises in the very least.
As for Social Security remember this was paid for by people and promised not to be touched by the government so that the interest could help pay for the escalation in cost in the later years of the baby boomers retiring, but the government raided this fund.
This to me is corruption since they did not keep a fiduciary account secure and took all the money and left an IOU. This turned social security into a liability the government has to fund and pay back. Plus now they lie and deceive and call it an entitlement program and want to further remove the original design of the program.
This took an secured asset, turned it into a liability, because of government not respecting their own promises and rule of law.
If any lawyer did what the government did they would be in jail.
Obama all over again, Bernie Sanders on if he knows how much his socialist agenda will cost: “no, I don’t”
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« Reply #96 on: February 25, 2020, 02:49:39 PM » |
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What a crock.
But the planet won't have to pay for it, we will.
The planet would probably resist helping us pay our taxes to save it.
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(this is an honest opinion on mental status, not disrespect) Imagine this, if Bernie and Biden ran as P and VP. |
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« Reply #99 on: February 25, 2020, 07:03:13 PM » |
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Actually thought the same thing. Just happened to see Buttigieg the other day on TV and thought to myself that he mimics Obama's mannerisms. I think some one is handling him to do precisely that and trying to bring him into that style of an orator and politician. He is getting good at being an orator. And like Obama speaks well about great non-specific things when prompted. Although Buttigieg seems to be able to hold his own off the prompter somewhat. I think the democrats long term strategy was to get a Black President, (Obama) a woman President, (Clinton) and then the first gay President (Buttigieg). Had Hillary won we'd have seen Buttigieg in a High Cabinet post of some kind as they molded him for the next Presidential election. |
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« Reply #101 on: February 25, 2020, 11:55:40 PM » |
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Well, they're saying Sanders did good enough in the SC debate to stay in the lead. Warren is a better debater, and can actually explain how her platform works, but not good enough to knock Sanders off the lead. Bloomberg apparently went back to debate school, but still tanked again. Biden did better too, except he said 150 million had been killed by guns since 2007 (which is about 149.6 million high), but he wore both his shoes this time. Reportedly, there is a new hat for Sanders (similar to Trumps MAGA). Bernie's hats are saying..... Make Bernie Bathe Again (MBBA) |
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