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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2020, 08:10:28 AM » |
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That filter completely misses the point of a paper filter.
The paper filter also removes the water that forms in the oil from condensation.
An important feature of a paper filter.
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2020, 08:38:03 AM » |
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That filter completely misses the point of a paper filter.
The paper filter also removes the water that forms in the oil from condensation.
An important feature of a paper filter.
the oil at operating temp gets rid of the water. Water is always evaporating, unless its zero kelvin. |
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2020, 09:03:37 AM » |
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whose selling them?
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2020, 11:31:58 AM » |
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This is very interesting, and the aluminum cover will look pretty cool on the Valkyrie. Lol
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2020, 04:32:14 PM » |
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The cost of the filter and the ultra-sonic cleaner is nearly $200. That's 20 to 30 conventional filters. Are you really going to want to bother to clean the permanent filter?
I'm not on board with this one.
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2020, 04:50:13 AM » |
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I don't see the point. Our engines run damn near forever with conventional filters. You still have to change oil and clean or change the filter at the proper interval, but by doing that, these bikes will outlast you.
My luck, I'd buy one of these expensive filters and some texting teenager would hit me and total the bike.
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2020, 05:43:27 AM » |
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I don't see the point. Our engines run damn near forever with conventional filters. You still have to change oil and clean or change the filter at the proper interval, but by doing that, these bikes will outlast you.
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2020, 06:06:15 AM » |
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This filter came up on the HSN a few years ago. Created quite a discussion but none was bought due to the fact that a conventional filter is just more practical and reliable not to mention cost effective @ least in my lifetime.
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2020, 06:20:50 AM » |
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Thank you for sharing.
Interesting engineering.
The idea the shop would stock the replacement elements that are clean so they can turn over the oil change quickly is a positive. Regarding the used oil elements and the proper disposal of traditional filters they already have a service that picks up contaminated solvent and used oil too.
Not for me. I will stick to current oil change practices.
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2020, 05:35:58 AM » |
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These have been around longer than most of us have been riding. I remember reading about one in Consumer Reports many decades ago, and I've read about a few others since then.
The reviews I've seen have similar complaints: reusable filters are difficult to properly clean (might be easier with the ultrasonic cleaner) and they don't catch the smaller particles in your oil. Those sound similar to the problems with K&N air filters.
Disposable oil (and air) filters are inexpensive, convenient, and work extremely well. I have about as much interest in reusable filters as I have in retread tires!
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