Maybe the end of false news?

[Robert]

Trump Campaign Sues New York Times For Libel

https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/26/trump-campaign-sues-new-york-times-libel-full-complaint/

The Real Trump-Russia Quid Pro Quo

The campaign and the Kremlin had an overarching deal: help beat Hillary Clinton for a new pro-Russian foreign policy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/27/opinion/mueller-trump-russia-quid-pro-quo.html


I think this is great since Trump already has all the facts and hopefully they will be held on account of their bad reporting. Which was tantamount to trying to sway an election.

In another win to straighten out our crazy world

Huge: Appeals Court Rules Trump Administration Can Withhold Grants From ‘Sanctuary Cities’

A three-judge panel on the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously overturned a district court judge's ruling that the department lacked the authority to impose immigration-related conditions on certain funding.

Maybe lawsuits will cease also over unpopular legislation the left doesn't like.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/484715-appeals-court-rules-trump-administration-can-withhold-grants-from

In a kind of laugh of the day now we have this  

Obama demands pro-Trump group's ad be pulled in South Carolina

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/484841-obama-lawyers-to-send-cease-and-desist-letter-to-pro-trump-group-of-south

[Patrick]

Its about time. Would like to see how this ends during our lifetime.

[Serk]

I just don't get why anyone would not trust the main stream media any longer, I mean they're obviously totally unbiased....

Checks my Google News feed, one of the top stories from the once reputable New York Times:

Let’s Call It Trumpvirus
If you’re feeling awful, you know who to blame.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-trump.html

Wow.... Just wow..... When I think my lack of respect and trust in the media can't possibly go any lower, they start to dig. With excavating equipment.....

[Alpha Dog]

I quit trusting them around 1980.  At that time it was what they would not cover, unlike watching Chet Huntley and David Brinkley in my youth, and others of course.  It became clear they were bias, not openly, but I knew.  This is what brought about the wave of conservative talk radio.  In this century they totally ceased being journalist their bias became being cheerleaders and actually operatives for the Dem party, which over the preceding years turn to outrageous fake news and narratives.    Thank God for President Donald J. Trump who has exposed these nitwits for all of America to see and driven their trust ratings into the tank.

Follow the lead of Nicolas Sandman and take them to court, over and over and over for slander, until they bleed every last cent they have.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I just don't get why anyone would not trust the main stream media any longer, I mean they're obviously totally unbiased....

Checks my Google News feed, one of the top stories from the once reputable New York Times:

Let’s Call It Trumpvirus
If you’re feeling awful, you know who to blame.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-trump.html

Wow.... Just wow..... When I think my lack of respect and trust in the media can't possibly go any lower, they start to dig. With excavating equipment.....

Whoa ! A libertarian has bought into the rhetoric so far that they are against free people being able to voice their OPINION ? 


Per a CBS article ;

Trump has called the Times and other media outlets on Twitter "fake news," with little or no evidence.

A spokesperson for the New York Times said they will be vindicated in court.

"The Trump campaign has turned to the courts to try to punish an opinion writer for having an opinion they find unacceptable," the spokesperson told CBS News. "Fortunately, the law protects the right of Americans to express their judgments and conclusions, especially about events of public importance. We look forward to vindicating that right in this case."


I'm sure there were never any opinion pieces written by right wing media groups ?

[Skinhead]

I'm sure there were never any opinion pieces written by right wing media groups ?

So sue them!

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm sure there were never any opinion pieces written by right wing media groups ?

So sue them!

Naw....I'm all for free speech. I always thought Libertarians were also.



The nature of an "Opinion Piece" is just that. It is the writers opinion. My opinion is, this will be thrown out of court.

[RP#62]

I'm sure there were never any opinion pieces written by right wing media groups ?

So sue them!

Naw....I'm all for free speech. I always thought Libertarians were also.



The nature of an "Opinion Piece" is just that. It is the writers opinion. My opinion is, this will be thrown out of court.

I haven't been watching this that close but I was under the impression that it wasn't about stating an opinion, it was about stating something defamatory as a fact when it was clear that the writer knew that it wasn't a fact at the time. 

-RP

[GiG]

I just don't get why anyone would not trust the main stream media any longer, I mean they're obviously totally unbiased....

Checks my Google News feed, one of the top stories from the once reputable New York Times:

Let’s Call It Trumpvirus
If you’re feeling awful, you know who to blame.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-trump.html

Wow.... Just wow..... When I think my lack of respect and trust in the media can't possibly go any lower, they start to dig. With excavating equipment.....

I'm sure there were never any opinion pieces written by right wing media groups ?

Does it take a genius to know when to use a question mark?  

[baldo]

I haven't been watching this that close but I was under the impression that it wasn't about stating an opinion, it was about stating something defamatory as a fact when it was clear that the writer knew that it wasn't a fact at the time. 

-RP

Are we talking about Fox?

[Serk]

Naw....I'm all for free speech. I always thought Libertarians were also.



The nature of an "Opinion Piece" is just that. It is the writers opinion. My opinion is, this will be thrown out of court.

I never said I was against someone being extremely biased in their "reporting."

But I also will call them out for being extremely unbiased, unethical fake news bullspit artists too.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm sure there were never any opinion pieces written by right wing media groups ?

So sue them!

Naw....I'm all for free speech. I always thought Libertarians were also.



The nature of an "Opinion Piece" is just that. It is the writers opinion. My opinion is, this will be thrown out of court.

I haven't been watching this that close but I was under the impression that it wasn't about stating an opinion, it was about stating something defamatory as a fact when it was clear that the writer knew that it wasn't a fact at the time. 

-RP

I haven't followed it closely either, mostly just what was in this thread. As I understand it, almost a year ago an opinion writer with the Times wrote a story about Trump and the Russians colluding. The statute of limitations was about to run out for them to file.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Naw....I'm all for free speech. I always thought Libertarians were also.



The nature of an "Opinion Piece" is just that. It is the writers opinion. My opinion is, this will be thrown out of court.

I never said I was against someone being extremely biased in their "reporting."

But I also will call them out for being extremely unbiased, unethical fake news bullspit artists too.

An opinion article is not "reporting" nor is it a "news article".

[The emperor has no clothes]

I just don't get why anyone would not trust the main stream media any longer, I mean they're obviously totally unbiased....

Checks my Google News feed, one of the top stories from the once reputable New York Times:

Let’s Call It Trumpvirus
If you’re feeling awful, you know who to blame.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-trump.html

Wow.... Just wow..... When I think my lack of respect and trust in the media can't possibly go any lower, they start to dig. With excavating equipment.....

I'm sure there were never any opinion pieces written by right wing media groups ?

Does it take a genius to know when to use a question mark?  

maybe a stable one ? 

[Willow]

An opinion article is not "reporting" nor is it a "news article".

Legally, opinion or statement of fact, one cannot publicly defame another's reputation.

[The emperor has no clothes]

An opinion article is not "reporting" nor is it a "news article".

Legally, opinion or statement of fact, one cannot publicly defame another's reputation.

Libel law includes the provision that one must know their statements were untrue. Defaming one's reputation is just part of it. President Trump has also accused the Times of treason. Surely he knew better ? Maybe the Times should sue him ?


This is not Mr. Trump’s first time going to court against a journalist. In 2006, he sued Timothy L. O’Brien for libel after the publication of Mr. O’Brien’s biography, “TrumpNation: The Art of Being the Donald.” The case was dismissed three years later. (Mr. O’Brien, who previously worked as a reporter and editor at The Times, is a senior adviser to Michael R. Bloomberg’s presidential campaign.)

[The emperor has no clothes]

Members here are not required to respond to certain other individuals here. Running on silent mode with certain political adversaries might be preferable to the irritation you experience.

And I might add, the ignore feature the moderators have availed us of, has been very therapeutic.

[Alberta Patriot]

Members here are not required to respond to certain other individuals here. Running on dead silence mode with certain political adversaries might be preferable to the irritation you experience...works for me.  

BTW...the Nicholas Sandman win over CNN for undisclosed millions is just the beginning for Sandman...a dozen others are planned that might have many fake news outlets crapping their depends. Tulsi Gabbard VS Hillary will be interesting as well. People are mad as hell and won't take it much longer.

[old2soon]

             Sometime after I departed the U S Navy-Feb 68-I was known to watch an occasional Presidential address. Lets just say said address took 45 minutes. And lets add that I did Indeed understand Everything POTUS had just talked about. Then right after POTUS said thank you and goodnight the talking heads came on. And they talked another hour or two attempting to read hidden meanings into what i had just heard and more importantly Understood. And then the next day in the newspapers POTUS speech took a full page BUT then the reporters-some of them taking 2 or 3 pages attempted yet again to splain what i had already heard and understood. And since that time-I M H O-It's only gotten worse. I no longer put implicit trust to any reporting that comes over the puter the tv or the radio. Instead i attempt to balance different "news" sources and draw my own conclusions. At one time in my distant past i generally took the "news" at face value. THAT IS No longer the case with me. Thank goodness i have GOOD blood pressure meds cuz of All those grains of salt I've been taking with the "news"!  RIDE SAFE.

[Oss]

the landmark case was Times v Sullivan

It was old when I was in law school

The case requires that the plaintiff show that the defendant knew that a statement was false or was reckless  if a public official

They knew, they know they should pay

with rights come Responsibility

I have hated the Times since in grade school, no comics, no west coast sports and a clear bias

Also they should be hoisted on their petard  (means blown up by one's own bomb- what we wish for all the jihad madmen)  just for their slogan

ALL THE NEWS THATS FIT TO PRINT

[The emperor has no clothes]

I just don't get why anyone would not trust the main stream media any longer, I mean they're obviously totally unbiased....

Checks my Google News feed, one of the top stories from the once reputable New York Times:

Let’s Call It Trumpvirus
If you’re feeling awful, you know who to blame.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-trump.html

Wow.... Just wow..... When I think my lack of respect and trust in the media can't possibly go any lower, they start to dig. With excavating equipment.....

I'm sure there were never any opinion pieces written by right wing media groups ?

Does it take a genius to know when to use a question mark?  

I've been thinking long and hard about your question. No......not about the genius part. ( I already know that) But, I can't figure it out. We may have to bring in the King.
 With the caveat that I'm no linguist, I always thought a question mark after a statement such as that denoted sarcasm. Willow ?

[John Schmidt]

An opinion article is not "reporting" nor is it a "news article".

Legally, opinion or statement of fact, one cannot publicly defame another's reputation.

Libel law includes the provision that one must know their statements were untrue.

Correct....and the problem here is that the NYT did in fact know the statementw were untrue based on earlier(and later) publications. This will be interesting, especially since it's not a suit brought by on by Trump but by his campaign. In addition, the entire OPED was blown out of the water based on the results of the Mueller witch hunt.

[Robert]

The Real Trump-Russia Quid Pro Quo

The campaign and the Kremlin had an overarching deal: help beat Hillary Clinton for a new pro-Russian foreign policy.

By Max Frankel

Mr. Frankel was the executive editor of The Times from 1986 to 1994.

The official complaint filed by the campaign states that the Times was “well aware” it published false information about collusion between the Russian government and Trump’s 2016 campaign.

Everyone already knows the Russia story was a hoax and I believe Trump has stated he already has the evidence that the NY Times also knew at the time they published the story. It will be interesting to see once the evidence is admitted into court records if it will be used elsewhere also.

[Jess from VA]

I say Main Stream Media has made open warfare, not only on DJT, but all Judaeo Christian, conservative, rational, patriotic, America first, and family values of Main Stream America (still).  So if someone has the money, why not go to war with them?  Sue them, enjoin them, bleed them and take no prisoners.  Let the courts decide what is free speech and what is actionable malicious libel and slander.  Unchecked, they are enemies of the good people and should be treated as such.  Think Sherman's march to the sea.

Pravda never held a candle to these ass wipes.

     

[Robert]

MAGA: DOJ Launches Unit To Revoke Citizenship Of Criminal Immigrants…

 

Sanity returns to goverment. 

[scooperhsd]

Naw....I'm all for free speech. I always thought Libertarians were also.



The nature of an "Opinion Piece" is just that. It is the writers opinion. My opinion is, this will be thrown out of court.

I never said I was against someone being extremely biased in their "reporting."

But I also will call them out for being extremely unbiased, unethical fake news bullspit artists too.

An opinion article is not "reporting" nor is it a "news article".

This I can agree with Meathead on. Opinions are fine - on the editorial / customer feedback pages. If "reporting" news - it should be unbiased. As well as what is covered.

[Bighead]

Lol