Where do you keep your guns

[shadowsoftime]

I have  12 unfired Colt 1911 and one stashed in every room and bath, just in case. AK-47, Sawed off d/b
AR-15, 2 darrengers, Whenchester 30/30 ,2 Kimbers, Chrome plated Frontier 6 shooter. Just incase the bad guys come. For some reason I don't carry, even thow it is legal here W/O permit.

[Bighead]

Unfired? That is my question.  I have been to the range three times since Friday and going tomorrow which is Friday. Lol

[..]

Easily to hand.

[shadowsoftime]

Unfired? That is my question.  I have been to the range tree times since Friday and foing tomorrow which is Friday. Lol

I only fire one,  a lot

[shadowsoftime]

By the way, only Wife and I live here.

[Bighead]

You need to fire any that you may have to defend yourself with. All firearms are different same company and caliber dont matter they all have a personality of their own. Shoot what you buy a LOT!!!!!!

[shadowsoftime]

You need to fire any that you may have to defend yourself with. All firearms are different same company and caliber dont matter they all have a personality of their own. Shoot what you buy a LOT!!!!!!

They are Colt's, I'm confident if needed they will perform.  
These guns are all in the 2,000 and above range.
I take that back 2 are 1,200.

[Bighead]

Ok you keep thinking that. If You have not fired said weapon you may as well put your life in the hands of Bernie. Just because it says Colt on the side does not mean it is a good weapon. I own many and None Zero Nada say colt on the side. Colt is a name that came popular over 100 yrs ago it means Zero today. Just sayin shoot what you buy they all shoot different and hit in different spots.

[Serk]

In one of the 6 gun safes in the house, or hanging on the wall, or on my person.....

And I'll add to the chorus, if you're depending on a firearm for ANY defensive purpose don't leave it unfired! Shoot it, get to know it, make sure it likes the ammo you have ready for defensive purposes.

[shadowsoftime]

Ok you keep thinking that. If You have not fired said weapon you may as well put your life in the hands of Bernie. Just because it says Colt on the side does not mean it is a good weapon. I own many and None Zero Nada say colt on the side. Colt is a name that came popular over 100 yrs ago it means Zero today. Just sayin shoot what you buy they all shoot different and hit in different spots.

From my Grandfather, Dad to me , all gun gurus, I know my guns, have fired since 5 years old.

[shadowsoftime]

I hesitate saying to much here as lots of guest view the forum, with that said I trust my guns, they are also an investment and worth more un fired.

[Serk]

I hesitate saying to much here as lots of guest view the forum, with that said I trust my guns, they are also an investment and worth more un fired.

 

I kinda understand... I split my guns up between collector pieces, historical, etc, and my working guns.....
Any that are classified as working guns get fired.... A lot..... But as long as you're comfortable with your split, that's your business.....

[Bighead]

Ok you are contradicting yourself either you have fired said weapons or you haven’t.
You hop you have and fired them often. My carry piece gets fired at least once a week and with self defense rounds not ball ammo. Gotta make
Sure that weapon will fire whatever ammo provided.

[shadowsoftime]

I hesitate saying to much here as lots of guest view the forum, with that said I trust my guns, they are also an investment and worth more un fired.

 

I kinda understand... I split my guns up between collector pieces, historical, etc, and my working guns.....
Any that are classified as working guns get fired.... A lot..... But as long as you're comfortable with your split, that's your business.....

My Ed Brown is a keeper.

[Bighead]

I will not own a weapon I will not fire. A gun is not an investment in money but an investment in FREEDOM!!!!

[Serk]

I will not own a weapon I will not fire. A gun is not an investment in money but an investment in FREEDOM!!!!

I GENERALLY agree with that, but have now 2 that won't be fired....

One is a Norinco 1911 that can't be brought into the country any longer, sealed in the bag in the box brand new. And will be left that way.

The other is a late 1800's double barrel 12 gauge I inherited that is sloppy, and I deemed unsafe to fire, so on the wall it goes as a nice decoration....

But my other 100+ guns have, and do get fired......

[shadowsoftime]

As I said, these are high dollar guns. I should have said I have some cheap 300 ,400 dollar glocks, ect that I shoot.

[old2soon]

        Close at hand and Ready. While I personally do Not open carry it is legal here in the Sho Me. There is Always one or two close at hand. I PRAY I Never need to fire at anyone but if need be better them than me. RIDE SAFE.

[Serk]

As I said, these are high dollar guns. I should have said I have some cheap 300 ,400 dollar glocks, ect that I shoot.

Gotcha..... Wish I had an Ed Brown! I'll have to deal with my Kimbers....

I made a point of shooting my pre-WWII, all matching numbers Remington Rand 1911 once, just to say I did....

....but I understand, I really do.....

[Bighead]

I will not own a weapon I will not fire. A gun is not an investment in money but an investment in FREEDOM!!!!

I GENERALLY agree with that, but have now 2 that won't be fired....

One is a Norinco 1911 that can't be brought into the country any longer, sealed in the bag in the box brand new. And will be left that way.

The other is a late 1800's double barrel 12 gauge I inherited that is sloppy, and I deemed unsafe to fire, so on the wall it goes as a nice decoration....

But my other 100+ guns have, and do get fired......

Serm there
Is always an exception. But my point to the OP is dont depend on a weapon you have NOT fired. Take em out and shoot em please.

[shadowsoftime]

I have had my un fired guns apraised 60 dollars each with 5 pages of typed info each and are worth lots more than I gave. You don't understand.

Lets just get back on topic, I will argue no more,

[shadowsoftime]

As I said, these are high dollar guns. I should have said I have some cheap 300 ,400 dollar glocks, ect that I shoot.

Gotcha..... Wish I had an Ed Brown! I'll have to deal with my Kimbers....

I made a point of shooting my pre-WWII, all matching numbers Remington Rand 1911 once, just to say I did....

....but I understand, I really do.....


Thank you

[shadowsoftime]

I will not own a weapon I will not fire. A gun is not an investment in money but an investment in FREEDOM!!!!

I GENERALLY agree with that, but have now 2 that won't be fired....

One is a Norinco 1911 that can't be brought into the country any longer, sealed in the bag in the box brand new. And will be left that way.



I appreciate what you say, just saying some guns you shoot, some you don't.

The other is a late 1800's double barrel 12 gauge I inherited that is sloppy, and I deemed unsafe to fire, so on the wall it goes as a nice decoration....

But my other 100+ guns have, and do get fired......

Serm there
Is always an exception. But my point to the OP is dont depend on a weapon you have NOT fired. Take em out and shoot em please.

[Serk]

Lets just get back on topic, I will argue no more,

On topic, as I said earlier most are in one of my 1/2 dozen safes, or hanging on the wall, or the one I keep on my person all day every day.... As a general rule if I have on pants I have my XD .40 on me, or within reach if I don't have on pants.....

With 3 eight year old kids having live guns hanging around the house unsecured isn't really an option for me, so I keep it on my person.

[shadowsoftime]

bighead
I appreciate what you say, just saying some guns you shoot, some you don't.

[Jess from VA]

I'm (somewhat) paranoid about talking about how my house (truck, bike) is defended and what I own on public airspace (I think this is considered public airspace).  Even more-so now that my state government is trying to emulate communism like CA-NJ-NY-MA.  (OK seems like a very good place to live in this regard)  And, as VA is doing to me, one should always be aware that this crap can come to your state too, down the road.    

Whether a warrant is actually required to focus on me personally to collect on-line information, or whether every key stoke I make is saved in a big database but only accessible with probable cause, or whether certain people can just go reading anything they want at any time, I don't know.  I try to operate as if they can read anything they want, then if they decide to actually go after me, they use whatever workarounds are necessary to make it look like they never spied on me in the first place.  

I sure as heck would never mention any class 3/NFA firearm (like a short bbl shotgun) that I didn't have proper NFA paperwork for.  And I probably wouldn't mention it even if I did have the paperwork.

What I worry about is that although I am a fully law abiding citizen, if I ended up defending myself with a firearm (or do anything else that draws official focus on me), that suddenly my entire on-line life becomes available for authorities to peruse at their leisure, and selectively use against me at their convenience. Thus, I will never be on Twitter, Facebook, Pay Pal, Alexa, or any of that, and I have never had a cell phone, let alone a smart phone (yes, I am a direct descendant of neanderthals).

And (forgetting government) presumably simple thieves could just go reading forums like this, to try to discover good targets to go steal from.  Though I worry about this less than government surveillance.

Most of my stuff is secured in a safe.  Some other stuff may be out for work, adjustment, cleaning at any time.  And some stuff is out most all the time (unless I travel), but not only not in plain view, but fairly artfully hidden but within easy reach.  I defend three floors.  I defend with handguns, carbines and shotguns (cause I'm an equal opportunity kind of guy).  I use lights and lasers. I keep electronic muffs on my nightstand, so I can have super human hearing if I hear a break in (and protect my ears if I make loud noises defending myself).

I also live alone, and very few people are allowed inside it.  If workers must come in, stuff where they are working (and their bathroom) gets moved before they come.  Though for any visitor to discover anything, they have to be searching in earnest far beyond what anyone should do in someone else's house.  And that doesn't happen because I don't leave them alone for an opportunity to search.  

Stuff used in home defense (or carry) must have been fired and zeroed and found fully reliable before it ever qualifies for such duty.  Stuff used in home defense has multiple spare loaded mags, speedloaders and plenty of ammo.  If you present a firearm to an armed intruder, and it doesn't go bang, you are probably worse off than if you were unarmed (except you can throw it at them like in the old westerns).

And you never talk about this with neighbors (unless they are in the category of people you trust with your life, family, property and money).  And remember, you not only have to trust someone, you have to trust everyone they may ever talk to.  (similar to unprotected sex these days)

If all that stuff is out, you need a safe, and a bit more selectivity in what is out, and where it is kept.    

[Serk]

I sure as heck would never mention any class 3/NFA firearm (like a short bbl shotgun) that I didn't have proper NFA paperwork for.  And I probably wouldn't mention it even if I did have the paperwork.

Since Big Brother has a NICE full paper trail on my NFA items, those are the LEAST concerning to talk about publicly for me.....

(And I DO have proper paperwork for all my NFA items.)

[shadowsoftime]

I'm (somewhat) paranoid about talking about how my house (truck, bike) is defended and what I own on public airspace (I think this is considered public airspace).  Even more-so now that my state government is trying to emulate communism like CA-NJ-NY-MA.  (OK seems like a very good place to live in this regard)  And, as VA is doing to me, one should always be aware that this crap can come to your state too, down the road.    

Whether a warrant is actually required to focus on me personally to collect on-line information, or whether every key stoke I make is saved in a big database but only accessible with probable cause, or whether certain people can just go reading anything they want at any time, I don't know.  I try to operate as if they can read anything they want, then if they decide to actually go after me, they use whatever workarounds are necessary to make it look like they never spied on me in the first place.  

I sure as heck would never mention any class 3/NFA firearm (like a short bbl shotgun) that I didn't have proper NFA paperwork for.  And I probably wouldn't mention it even if I did have the paperwork.

What I worry about is that although I am a fully law abiding citizen, if I ended up defending myself with a firearm (or do anything else that draws official focus on me), that suddenly my entire on-line life becomes available for authorities to peruse at their leisure, and selectively use against me at their convenience. Thus, I will never be on Twitter, Facebook, Pay Pal, Alexa, or any of that, and I have never had a cell phone, let alone a smart phone (yes, I am a direct descendant of neanderthals).

And (forgetting government) presumably simple thieves could just go reading forums like this, to try to discover good targets to go steal from.  Though I worry about this less than government surveillance.

Most of my stuff is secured in a safe.  Some other stuff may be out for work, adjustment, cleaning at any time.  And some stuff is out most all the time (unless I travel), but not only not in plain view, but fairly artfully hidden but within easy reach.  I defend three floors.  I defend with handguns, carbines and shotguns (cause I'm an equal opportunity kind of guy).  I use lights and lasers. I keep electronic muffs on my nightstand, so I can have super human hearing if I hear a break in (and protect my ears if I make loud noises defending myself).

I also live alone, and very few people are allowed inside it.  If workers must come in, stuff where they are working (and their bathroom) gets moved before they come.  Though for any visitor to discover anything, they have to be searching in earnest far beyond what anyone should do in someone else's house.  And that doesn't happen because I don't leave them alone for an opportunity to search.  

Stuff used in home defense (or carry) must have been fired and zeroed and found fully reliable before it ever qualifies for such duty.  Stuff used in home defense has multiple spare loaded mags, speedloaders and plenty of ammo.  If you present a firearm to an armed intruder, and it doesn't go bang, you are probably worse off than if you were unarmed (except you can throw it at them like in the old westerns).

And you never talk about this with neighbors (unless they are in the category of people you trust with your life, family, property and money with).  And remember, you not only have to trust someone, you have to trust everyone they may ever talk to.  (similar to unprotected sex these days)

If all that stuff is out, you need a safe, and a bit more selectivity in what is out, and where it is kept.    

Jess my stagecoach double barrel nickle plated is legal, bought from manufacture , I should have said that.

[shadowsoftime]

Okay, back to topic, where do you keep your guns.
Just Wife and I  at home.

[Jess from VA]

I sure as heck would never mention any class 3/NFA firearm (like a short bbl shotgun) that I didn't have proper NFA paperwork for.  And I probably wouldn't mention it even if I did have the paperwork.

Since Big Brother has a NICE full paper trail on my NFA items, those are the LEAST concerning to talk about publicly for me.....

(And I DO have proper paperwork for all my NFA items.)

I get that, but that stuff is all expensive, and can be just what thieves are looking for.  Though I'd talk about suppressors long before any full auto (I wish).

Years ago, on a public forum, I made a joke to a guy about his Browning Automatic Rifle (which I was certain he didn't have).  Except he did have one, and contacted me privately, asking how I knew.  I didn't, it was just a joke, but I apologized profusely and never mentioned it again.  One of those will run you $40K.  Man I would like one of those (or even a select fire M14).

As far as brand new unfired guns being reliable, I like KAHR's approach.  They sell some of the best designed, reliable handguns in the world, but they flat out tell you (in writing) that none of their guns is reliable until it has been fired 200 times.  If I sold guns for a living, I'd do exactly the same thing.  An unfired firearm of any make or quality is probably OK, but mistakes happen (even after the one or two rounds they fired before shipping it out to a dealer).  This is one of the reasons I actually prefer used firearms to new, though I must shoot them too to satisfy myself of reliability.  Though with universal background checks coming to my state, the other main reason is disappearing (which is their plan). 

[Beardo]

Lets just get back on topic, I will argue no more,

On topic, as I said earlier most are in one of my 1/2 dozen safes, or hanging on the wall, or the one I keep on my person all day every day.... As a general rule if I have on pants I have my XD .40 on me, or within reach if I don't have on pants.....

With 3 eight year old kids having live guns hanging around the house unsecured isn't really an option for me, so I keep it on my person.

I remember us having an interesting conversation about our 2 country’s gun laws at IZ a couple years ago...can’t remember if I asked you...is it legal to have a functioning gun hanging on the wall in plain site there?  Does that vary by state?

[shadowsoftime]

I wanted to keep this on topic for a reason, will tell you later.

[Jess from VA]

Lets just get back on topic, I will argue no more,

On topic, as I said earlier most are in one of my 1/2 dozen safes, or hanging on the wall, or the one I keep on my person all day every day.... As a general rule if I have on pants I have my XD .40 on me, or within reach if I don't have on pants.....

With 3 eight year old kids having live guns hanging around the house unsecured isn't really an option for me, so I keep it on my person.

I remember us having an interesting conversation about our 2 country’s gun laws at IZ a couple years ago...can’t remember if I asked you...is it legal to have a functioning gun hanging on the wall in plain site there?  Does that vary by state?

Generally it is legal everywhere, except a few states (and cities) try to make you lock things up.  Armed intruders will certainly wait for you to get into your safe, just to be sporting about it.

My plain view (from inside the house, not outside) are nice old but perfectly functioning Mauser bolt guns (1888 forward), in a rack with fixed (properly matching) bayonets.  They all shoot fine, but they are not intended for defense (except maybe as a long spear).  I have ammo for them, though it would take me a while to find it.

Like this, but only three.


The bayonets make them so much more interesting as display. (scabbards off)

[Bighead]

bighead
I appreciate what you say, just saying some guns you shoot, some you don't.

Nope if it dont shoot it iwnta gun. You may as well throw it at a perp. No difference than it and a brick.

[Beardo]

Lets just get back on topic, I will argue no more,

On topic, as I said earlier most are in one of my 1/2 dozen safes, or hanging on the wall, or the one I keep on my person all day every day.... As a general rule if I have on pants I have my XD .40 on me, or within reach if I don't have on pants.....

With 3 eight year old kids having live guns hanging around the house unsecured isn't really an option for me, so I keep it on my person.

I remember us having an interesting conversation about our 2 country’s gun laws at IZ a couple years ago...can’t remember if I asked you...is it legal to have a functioning gun hanging on the wall in plain site there?  Does that vary by state?

Generally it is legal everywhere, except a few states (and cities) try to make you lock things up.  Armed intruders will certainly wait for you to get into your safe, just to be sporting about it.

My plain view (from inside the house, not outside) are nice old but perfectly functioning Mauser bolt guns (1888 forward), in a rack with fixed (properly matching) bayonets.  They all shoot fine, but they are not intended for defense (except maybe as a long spear).  I have ammo for them, though it would take me a while to find it.

Like this, but only three.

Interesting. You can have a room like that here, but it has to be a safe room with secure steel doors, no windows, concrete walls, etc.

Or put them in a safe. So yeah, our guns aren’t for self defence...unless the perp is willing to give you a minute or 2.

The bat beside my bed is legal, but far less effective.  Hoping my 110 lb Rottweiler will hold them up long enough to get the safe open. 

[shadowsoftime]

bighead
I appreciate what you say, just saying some guns you shoot, some you don't.

Nope if it dont shoot it iwnta gun. You may as well throw it at a perp. No difference than it and a brick.

Did you not read what I said, was being complimentary.
I'm guessing you have never owned a collector gun

[Jess from VA]

Interesting. You can have a room like that here, but it has to be a safe room with secure steel doors, no windows, concrete walls, etc.

Or put them in a safe. So yeah, our guns aren’t for self defense...unless the perp is willing to give you a minute or 2.

The bat beside my bed is legal, but far less effective.  Hoping my 110 lb Rottweiler will hold them up long enough to get the safe open.  Grin

I am well aware of your rules.  But it's not like they do warrantless unannounced inspections, do they?

IE, after you dispatch two intruders, you open the safe before calling the Provincial policemen.

Also, all gun safes can be kept on the notch (or whatever it's called).  The door closed and the dial spun back an inch or so (but not enough to move tumblers), so the door will not open unless the dial is returned to the lock.  (Just one reason I will never own electronic lock safes)  Of course, this is a bad idea if you leave the home, but when home it's an easy workaround (with no kids, or visitors).

Maybe I should not ask (and you should not answer).... except for the inspection part.

[Bighead]

Yes I did and I wasn’t trying to be an ass but in my eyes unless you have a million dollar gun it is just a brick Unless you know how or are willing to shoot it.

[Beardo]

No it’s not like we have inspections. But if you ever had a break in and had one stolen...you’d be charged for unsafe storage.

Having said that, I know a few people who may have them located in an easy to reach place that wouldn’t be easily found. Of course, I don’t condone that...it’s terribly irresponsible.

[Bighead]

No it’s not like we have inspections. But if you ever had a break in and had one stolen...you’d be charged for unsafe storage.

Having said that, I know a few people who may have them located in an easy to reach place that wouldn’t be easily found. Of course, I don’t condone that...it’s terribly irresponsible.

Unsafe storage charge in a theft? That is not 100% wrong but 1000%was wrong.  It is freakin stolen.
And the few people you know are smart. I
Hope you are one of them and you last sentence was horse crap!!