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Trump is considering sending out checks to the avg American to help out. I expect all of you Trump haters to refuse this check. Just saying.  |
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2020, 11:04:08 AM » |
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Sending a specific amount of money to everyone can't be well thought out. Isn't that precisely how inflation happens?
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2020, 11:07:53 AM » |
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I agree, seems wacky to me.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2020, 11:30:07 AM » |
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Why does (alleged) pandemic and a down market have to result in an increase in socialism?
Literally throwing money at the wall seems like a nitwit solution to anything.
We pay for better government than this.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2020, 11:32:07 AM » |
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Why does (alleged) pandemic and a down market have to result in an increase in socialism?
Literally throwing money at the wall seems like a nitwit solution to anything.
We pay for better government than this.
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Valkorado
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2020, 11:32:23 AM » |
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Why does (alleged) pandemic and a down market have to result in an increase in socialism?
Literally throwing money at the wall seems like a nitwit solution to anything.
We pay for better government than this.
This.  Pretty sure it's a pandemic, tho. Last time I checked. |
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2020, 11:58:15 AM » |
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I'll accept it and invest it, then when they want it back I'll keep most of the proceeds gained and thank them....albeit silently. Agreed...not well thought out, but....
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Wizzard
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2020, 12:50:19 PM » |
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Not sure I have ever seen anything the Govt solved by throwing money at it
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2020, 01:00:05 PM » |
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Oh come on-sounds like a gubmint plan to buy themselves outa debt!  Yeah-RIGHT!  Every day workin stiffs KNOW ya can't buy yerself outa debt. RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2020, 01:43:51 PM » |
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I take $10 out of my wallet. I give it to my wife. I turn around and she puts it on the table. I turn around again and THERE'S $10 ON THE TABLE! Like out of nowhere!
So the plan is to take $10 out of my wallet and give it to the government, and they'll give me $8.50! THE ECONOMY IS SAVED!
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2020, 01:45:01 PM » |
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I may have permanently broken the sarcasm font with my last post. Sorry.
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Mike Luken
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2020, 04:35:23 PM » |
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I’m lucky to be able to work from home and still get my check. Lots of family members are not so lucky. If they keep things shut down for 60+ days lots of people will be hurting. Glad someone is thinking of how to help the people who will need it. Sure hope they try and keep politics out of these discussions.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2020, 05:23:28 PM » |
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No, thanks! No 'free' money for me, that will only make inflation worst. What about having less taxes instead? |
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2020, 06:38:27 PM » |
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The free money should not be for people that don’t need it. There will be thousands who depend on there lower paying jobs that may not work for 60-90 days. Hopefully the Government will help them get through this emergency. Giving everyone a check is poor planning in my opinion.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2020, 06:57:06 PM » |
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If you receive money and do not need it, give it to someone who does.
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2020, 07:20:52 PM » |
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If you receive money and do not need it, give it to someone who does.
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Mike Luken
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Skinhead
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2020, 04:58:28 AM » |
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I would think it would be better to suspend loan, tax, and rent payments for THOSE THAT ARE STRUGGLING (can't work, not getting paid) until they return to work. Food stamps if you need money for food. HANG THOSE THAT DEFRAUD OR ABUSE THIS. Just giving $1K to everyone, will result in some buying Gucci purses.
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2020, 05:10:31 AM » |
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And your wife wouldn't like a Gucci purse?.......ha
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2020, 05:14:19 AM » |
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HANG THOSE THAT DEFRAUD OR ABUSE THIS. Just giving $1K to everyone, will result in some buying Gucci purses.
Dang!! Here I was about to order a Gucci purse but, I’m not sure it’s worth getting hung over. |
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Wizzard
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2020, 05:44:53 AM » |
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HANG THOSE THAT DEFRAUD OR ABUSE THIS. Just giving $1K to everyone, will result in some buying Gucci purses.
Dang!! Here I was about to order a Gucci purse but, I’m not sure it’s worth getting hung over. I will take the ck and go buy a nice firearm |
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2020, 06:07:28 AM » |
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Hey!!!! I can now afford to send this next batch of carbs to AtticRat instead of doing it myself!!
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2020, 06:24:03 AM » |
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Not sure I have ever seen anything the Govt solved by throwing money at it
I thought you were in support of this? So much so you want Trump haters to refuse it. |
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Wizzard
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2020, 07:35:01 AM » |
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Not sure I have ever seen anything the Govt solved by throwing money at it
I thought you were in support of this? So much so you want Trump haters to refuse it. Well you thought wrong  And I doubt any Trump haters will refuse it. |
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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2020, 07:53:13 AM » |
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No, thanks! No 'free' money for me, that will only make inflation worst. What about having less taxes instead? |
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2020, 08:00:46 AM » |
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They said they were going to stimulate the economy by putting more money in the pipeline. I take it that means firing up the printing presses and diluting the value of the dollar - INFLATION. What are they thinking? Not like they haven't been printing money already. Somebody please give them a history lesson on the Weimar Republic and their hyperinflation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic |
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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2020, 09:07:14 AM » |
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Not sure I have ever seen anything the Govt solved by throwing money at it
I thought you were in support of this? So much so you want Trump haters to refuse it. Well you thought wrong And I doubt any Trump haters will refuse it. Well after all.....Trump said this virus thing is a hoax anyway. BTW, did you refuse the payroll tax reduction back in 08 and 09 put in place by Bush/Obama? |
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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2020, 09:13:15 AM » |
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Not sure I have ever seen anything the Govt solved by throwing money at it
I thought you were in support of this? So much so you want Trump haters to refuse it. Well you thought wrong : And I doubt any Trump haters will refuse it. Well after all.....Trump said this virus thing is a hoax anyway. BTW, did you refuse the payroll tax reduction back in 08 and 09 put in place by Bush/Obama? I missed the hoax statement, can you provide info on when he made that statement? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/ |
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« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2020, 09:37:42 AM » |
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did you refuse the payroll tax reduction back in 08 and 09 put in place by Bush/Obama?
I never saw an extra dime in my pay from the 'reduction' you mentioned. |
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Wizzard
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« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2020, 10:06:31 AM » |
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Not sure I have ever seen anything the Govt solved by throwing money at it
I thought you were in support of this? So much so you want Trump haters to refuse it. Well you thought wrong : And I doubt any Trump haters will refuse it. Well after all.....Trump said this virus thing is a hoax anyway. BTW, did you refuse the payroll tax reduction back in 08 and 09 put in place by Bush/Obama? I missed the hoax statement, can you provide info on when he made that statement? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/you beat me to it |
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« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2020, 10:06:54 AM » |
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did you refuse the payroll tax reduction back in 08 and 09 put in place by Bush/Obama?
I never saw an extra dime in my pay from the 'reduction' you mentioned. Neither did I |
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« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2020, 01:35:51 PM » |
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I will check with my accountant next week when I do a video chat with him about my personal and business tax bill that is upcoming, but I have no memory of any "tax cut" that has benefitted either my business or me, proposed or enacted, by either party. Going back as far as the Carter fiasco, all I get to do is write checks to the Fed and the State that never get smaller. And don't get me started on the legalized protection agencies. (Dat's a real nice business youz got dare, be a real shame if som-tin went bad wid it.)
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« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2020, 01:43:07 PM » |
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HANG THOSE THAT DEFRAUD OR ABUSE THIS. Just giving $1K to everyone, will result in some buying Gucci purses.
Dang!! Here I was about to order a Gucci purse but, I’m not sure it’s worth getting hung over. I will take the ck and go buy a nice firearm Firearms would be an acceptable purchase, that or ammo, you can never have enough. |
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« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2020, 02:08:04 PM » |
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Not sure I have ever seen anything the Govt solved by throwing money at it
I thought you were in support of this? So much so you want Trump haters to refuse it. Well you thought wrong And I doubt any Trump haters will refuse it. Well after all.....Trump said this virus thing is a hoax anyway. In context, Trump did not say that the virus itself was a hoax. Rather, he said that Democrats’ criticism of his administration’s response to it was a hoax. |
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« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2020, 04:20:08 PM » |
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Not sure I have ever seen anything the Govt solved by throwing money at it
I thought you were in support of this? So much so you want Trump haters to refuse it. Well you thought wrong And I doubt any Trump haters will refuse it. Well after all.....Trump said this virus thing is a hoax anyway. In context, Trump did not say that the virus itself was a hoax. Rather, he said that Democrats’ criticism of his administration’s response to it was a hoax. WASHINGTON — For weeks, President Trump has minimized the coronavirus, mocked concern about it and treated the risk from it cavalierly. On Tuesday he took to the White House lectern and made a remarkable assertion: He knew it was a pandemic all along. “This is a pandemic,” Mr. Trump told reporters. “I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.” This is what Mr. Trump has actually said over the past two months: On Jan. 22, asked by a CNBC reporter whether there were “worries about a pandemic,” the president replied: “No, not at all. We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.” On Feb. 26, at a White House news conference, commenting on the country’s first reported cases: “We’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.” |
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« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2020, 04:33:21 PM » |
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Not sure I have ever seen anything the Govt solved by throwing money at it
I thought you were in support of this? So much so you want Trump haters to refuse it. Well you thought wrong And I doubt any Trump haters will refuse it. Well after all.....Trump said this virus thing is a hoax anyway. In context, Trump did not say that the virus itself was a hoax. Rather, he said that Democrats’ criticism of his administration’s response to it was a hoax. Yes that’s true. Not sure there is a difference. |
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« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2020, 04:39:26 PM » |
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did you refuse the payroll tax reduction back in 08 and 09 put in place by Bush/Obama?
I never saw an extra dime in my pay from the 'reduction' you mentioned. I don’t post things just willy nilly. From US Economy and News In February 2009, Congress approved Obama’s economic stimulus package. It restored confidence and ended the Great Recession in July 2009. It cut $288 billion in taxes. It reduced that year's income taxes for individuals by $400 each and $800 for families. Instead of stimulus checks, workers received a lower withholding in their paychecks. It wasn't publicized very well, so many people didn't even notice the increase. ARRA also reduced income taxes by the amount equal to the sales tax on a new car purchase. It provided $17 billion in tax cuts for households who invested in renewable energy. It included $54 billion in small business tax cuts. |
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« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2020, 04:40:00 PM » |
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I will check with my accountant next week when I do a video chat with him about my personal and business tax bill that is upcoming, but I have no memory of any "tax cut" that has benefitted either my business or me, proposed or enacted, by either party. Going back as far as the Carter fiasco, all I get to do is write checks to the Fed and the State that never get smaller. And don't get me started on the legalized protection agencies. (Dat's a real nice business youz got dare, be a real shame if som-tin went bad wid it.)
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« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2020, 04:56:23 PM » |
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Not sure I have ever seen anything the Govt solved by throwing money at it
I thought you were in support of this? So much so you want Trump haters to refuse it. Well you thought wrong And I doubt any Trump haters will refuse it. Well after all.....Trump said this virus thing is a hoax anyway. In context, Trump did not say that the virus itself was a hoax. Rather, he said that Democrats’ criticism of his administration’s response to it was a hoax. Yes that’s true. Not sure there is a difference. Your sense of interpretation and implication are incredible (literally). |
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« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2020, 01:28:06 AM » |
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Not sure I have ever seen anything the Govt solved by throwing money at it
I thought you were in support of this? So much so you want Trump haters to refuse it. Well you thought wrong And I doubt any Trump haters will refuse it. Well after all.....Trump said this virus thing is a hoax anyway. In context, Trump did not say that the virus itself was a hoax. Rather, he said that Democrats’ criticism of his administration’s response to it was a hoax. Yes that’s true. Not sure there is a difference. Your sense of interpretation and implication are incredible (literally). Being drunk on Trump Kool Aid will give you a terrible hangover. |
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