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4/9/20. 1,940 deaths in US last 24 hrs
Total Deaths still doubling every 5-6 days
Corono worldwide
3/19/20 8,500 total deaths 3/20/20 10,500 3/21/20. 11,800 3/22/20 13,548 313,415 cases 3/23/20. 15,303 349,600 3/24/20 16,585. 383,894 3/25/20 19,606 434,839 3/26/20. 21,566. 479,472 3/27/20. 24,872. 549,572 3/28/20. 27,610. 605,314 3/29/20. 31,737. 677,650 3/30/20. 34,866. 736,326 3/31/20. 39,040. 803,547 4/1/20. 43,459. 875,455 4/2/20. 48,320. 951,906 4/3/20. 54,199. 1,030,285 4/4/20. 60,375. 1,134,373 4/5/20. 65,665. 1,215,940 4/6/20. 70,446. 1,342,000 4/7/20. 75,282. 1,351,833 4/8/20. 83,103. 1,444,822 4/9/20. 89,418. 1,529,64
Coronovirus USA
3/22/20. 348 deaths. 26,900 cases 3/23/20. 458. 35,070 3/24/20. 582 46,148 3/25/20. 784. 54,963 3/26/20. 1,036. 68,57 3/27/20. 1,304. 85,704 3/28/20. 1,704. 104,256 3/29/20. 2,229. 123,781 3/30/20. 2,490 142,793 3/31/20. 3,177. 164,665 4/1/20. 4,059. 188,647 4/2/20. 5,113. 215,337 4/3/20. 6,095. 245,380 4/4/20. 7,403. 277,53 4/5/20. 8,454. 311,630 4/6/20. 9,620. 336,851 4/7/20. 10,943. 367,650 4/8/20. 12,857. 400,549 4/9/20 14,797. 435,160
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2020, 06:11:14 AM » |
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Stop it. This is just not true.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2020, 06:14:45 AM » |
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2020, 06:18:19 AM » |
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 Exactly but whatelse is new 
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2020, 06:29:41 AM » |
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Stop it. This is just not true. so your saying the CDC website is not true?
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2020, 06:37:07 AM » |
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Believe what ya want I believe the stats it's the only numbers found I ck several websites against each other and the numbers are not exact but close to each othet
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2020, 06:45:07 AM » |
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Stop it. This is just not true. so your saying the CDC website is not true? No - we're saying your intrepretation is wrong.
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2020, 06:58:40 AM » |
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I stick by my previous assertion - you are misintreptating the CDC document.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2020, 07:15:17 AM » |
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Fauci dismisses 'conspiracy theories' to spin the coronavirus death tollhttps://www.yahoo.com/news/fauci-dismisses-conspiracy-theories-to-spin-the-coronavirus-death-toll-132059427.html"According to actual experts, if there’s any problem with the COVID-19 death count, it’s not that it’s too high. It’s that it’s too low".
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2020, 07:27:32 AM » |
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Make of it what you will, but I read the other day that since COVID-19 has come on the scene, the number of deaths due to heart attack and stroke have plummeted.
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2020, 07:39:32 AM » |
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I dunno. I guess if you were ripe for a heart attack and got C19 it could certainly exacorbate the problem. I have a few conditions so I wouldn't want to test the theory...
I still say it's sh!t virus, and it's not to be scoffed at.
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2020, 08:15:39 AM » |
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China has been lying about their numbers since day one. Plus all the days before day one.
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2020, 08:56:54 AM » |
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China didn't report any deaths at Tiananmen Square either.
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2020, 09:55:49 AM » |
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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2020, 10:54:14 AM » |
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It sounds like Covid-19 and Climate change have a lot in common.
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2020, 11:07:40 AM » |
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April 8th news conference transcript:
Speaker 33: (01:35:20) Mr. Vice President, last question about Dr. Birx or Dr. Fauci. As you are both probably aware, there’s a lot of misinformation conspiracy theories out there about the coronavirus. There are some commentators who are suggesting that the number of dead are being inflated because they’re saying that people who are dying with other issues are being listed as COVID-19 deaths. Perhaps you’ve seen some of this commentary. You may be too busy to see it, but it is out there. What do you say to those folks who are making the claim without really any evidence that these deaths are being padded, that the number of COVID-19 deaths are being padded. For example, somebody might die from a number of factors, but had coronavirus are being listed as coronavirus deaths and because of that, the number is being inflated.
Mike Pence: (01:36:13) That’s fair question. You might also speak about the converse.
Deborah Birx: (01:36:17) Yeah, we’ve been hearing the converse to that. We’ve been hearing both sides of that. I think we’ve made it very clear, I think every time I’ve been up here about the comorbidities and so most of the people… We talked about the Italy data. The majority of the Italians who succumbed to this had three or more comorbidities. This has been known from the beginning so those individuals will have an underlying condition, but that underlying condition did not because their acute death when it’s related to a COVID infection. In fact, it’s the opposite. Having an underlying condition and getting this virus we know is particularly damaging to those individuals. We don’t know all the pathophysiology. I wish we did right now. We see a lot of vasculitis where Tony and I came from. Tony, actually… Dr Fauci started in the vasculitis in Wagner’s.
Deborah Birx: (01:37:21) I mean these are things we have studied for a long time. We are trying to understand the pathophysiology, but what we can tell you at this moment, if you have asthma, if you have renal disease, if you have diabetes, if you have hypertension, these are preexisting conditions that puts you at a greater risk to having a worse outcome.
Dr. Fauci: (01:37:41) Just add a comment to that because having been through other serious issues, particularly the very painful early years of HIV AIDS, when people talk about conspiracy theories. You will always have conspiracy theories when you have a very challenging public health crises. They are nothing but distractions. I can assure you, we have so much to do to protect the health and the welfare of the American people that I would just hope we just put those conspiracy stuff and let somebody write a book about it later on, but not now.
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2020, 11:09:59 AM » |
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It sounds like Covid-19 and Climate change have a lot in common.
Yes. You desmogged. That little extra C02 in our atmosphere was just enough to melt an ancient glacier that extra centimeter, exposing a tiny little COVID-19 virus. The little sucker caught a wind and landed in a yawning Chinaman's throat as he was closing shop for the day at the Wuhan wet market. And so it began... HOW DARE YOU?!?!?
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2020, 11:53:50 AM » |
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It appears they both use similar models.
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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2020, 12:04:54 PM » |
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I knew what ya meant, and have no argument. Here ya go. Meet the former NYT reporter who is challenging the coronavirus narrative. www.foxnews.com/politics/ex-nyt-reporter-challenging-the-coronavirus-narrativeAgain, the numbers will be distilled after the virus has made its run. Then they'll be disagreed upon for decades.
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2020, 12:13:45 PM » |
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About numbers: odds are that lots of people are dying of Covid-19 without ever getting tested. On China vs USA: 
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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2020, 12:42:42 PM » |
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April 8th news conference transcript:
Speaker 33: (01:35:20) Mr. Vice President, last question about Dr. Birx or Dr. Fauci. As you are both probably aware, there’s a lot of misinformation conspiracy theories out there about the coronavirus. There are some commentators who are suggesting that the number of dead are being inflated because they’re saying that people who are dying with other issues are being listed as COVID-19 deaths. Perhaps you’ve seen some of this commentary. You may be too busy to see it, but it is out there. What do you say to those folks who are making the claim without really any evidence that these deaths are being padded, that the number of COVID-19 deaths are being padded. For example, somebody might die from a number of factors, but had coronavirus are being listed as coronavirus deaths and because of that, the number is being inflated.
Mike Pence: (01:36:13) That’s fair question. You might also speak about the converse.
Deborah Birx: (01:36:17) Yeah, we’ve been hearing the converse to that. We’ve been hearing both sides of that. I think we’ve made it very clear, I think every time I’ve been up here about the comorbidities and so most of the people… We talked about the Italy data. The majority of the Italians who succumbed to this had three or more comorbidities. This has been known from the beginning so those individuals will have an underlying condition, but that underlying condition did not because their acute death when it’s related to a COVID infection. In fact, it’s the opposite. Having an underlying condition and getting this virus we know is particularly damaging to those individuals. We don’t know all the pathophysiology. I wish we did right now. We see a lot of vasculitis where Tony and I came from. Tony, actually… Dr Fauci started in the vasculitis in Wagner’s.
Deborah Birx: (01:37:21) I mean these are things we have studied for a long time. We are trying to understand the pathophysiology, but what we can tell you at this moment, if you have asthma, if you have renal disease, if you have diabetes, if you have hypertension, these are preexisting conditions that puts you at a greater risk to having a worse outcome.
Dr. Fauci: (01:37:41) Just add a comment to that because having been through other serious issues, particularly the very painful early years of HIV AIDS, when people talk about conspiracy theories. You will always have conspiracy theories when you have a very challenging public health crises. They are nothing but distractions. I can assure you, we have so much to do to protect the health and the welfare of the American people that I would just hope we just put those conspiracy stuff and let somebody write a book about it later on, but not now.
-Mike
sounds familiar. A look back at what Fauci and his colleagues did during their decades of pushing fear and the spending of billions of dollars of funding for HIV-AIDS is instructive. As an independent journalist, I covered the "war" on HIV-AIDS extensively starting in 1986 — just as the massive effort to combat the condition was gearing up. Eventually, the government's spending on HIV-AIDS came to eclipse what was spent on the failed war on cancer that began in 1971, which is where my reporting on the politics of medicine and cancer had started. After seeing a March 9, 2020 tweet by Shiva Ayyadurai, Ph.D., who has four degrees from MIT, I was inspired to take a look back to try to put Fauci's current work on the coronavirus into some perspective. The real bottom line of what Fauci and his colleagues achieved over two decades was much more serious than hanging out with "petty" celebrities. It was the achievement of a near-total preoccupation with AIDS to the major detriment of much more serious diseases — most of them conditions for which the causes were not known and not the result of personal lifestyle choices (primarily unprotected sex among homosexuals and injecting illegal drugs). In The AIDS Epidemic: Social Dimensions Of An Infectious Disease, author William Rushing takes note of "alarming statements" about the potential of AIDS that were being made by "medical professionals and scientists" — many of them like Fauci in policy-making positions. These statements were the basis of high profile exaggerated warnings like the one issued by Oprah Winfrey on her number one afternoon TV talk show on Feb. 18, 1987 that "one in five heterosexuals could be dead from AIDS in the next three years." Thirty-three years ago now, that fear-mongering never panned out and it did not lead to country-wide shut downs of almost everything — rather a boondoggle of spending on HIV-AIDS research that dwarfed all other medical spending. As I wrote in 2003: For years, both types of diabetes have been given short shrift in favor of conditions like AIDS that have better organized and more vocal constituencies or are considered to be more politically correct. The government currently spends 40 to 100 times as much on AIDS research per AIDS death when compared to diabetes for every death from diabetes. This chart below clearly illustrates the results of the efforts by Fauci and his colleagues: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/anthony_fauci_the_nihs_face_of_the_coronavirus_is_a_deepstate_hillary_clintonloving_stooge.html#.XnYO5Z8RvOg.facebook
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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2020, 12:48:26 PM » |
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April 8th news conference transcript:
Speaker 33: (01:35:20) Mr. Vice President, last question about Dr. Birx or Dr. Fauci. As you are both probably aware, there’s a lot of misinformation conspiracy theories out there about the coronavirus. There are some commentators who are suggesting that the number of dead are being inflated because they’re saying that people who are dying with other issues are being listed as COVID-19 deaths. Perhaps you’ve seen some of this commentary. You may be too busy to see it, but it is out there. What do you say to those folks who are making the claim without really any evidence that these deaths are being padded, that the number of COVID-19 deaths are being padded. For example, somebody might die from a number of factors, but had coronavirus are being listed as coronavirus deaths and because of that, the number is being inflated.
Mike Pence: (01:36:13) That’s fair question. You might also speak about the converse.
Deborah Birx: (01:36:17) Yeah, we’ve been hearing the converse to that. We’ve been hearing both sides of that. I think we’ve made it very clear, I think every time I’ve been up here about the comorbidities and so most of the people… We talked about the Italy data. The majority of the Italians who succumbed to this had three or more comorbidities. This has been known from the beginning so those individuals will have an underlying condition, but that underlying condition did not because their acute death when it’s related to a COVID infection. In fact, it’s the opposite. Having an underlying condition and getting this virus we know is particularly damaging to those individuals. We don’t know all the pathophysiology. I wish we did right now. We see a lot of vasculitis where Tony and I came from. Tony, actually… Dr Fauci started in the vasculitis in Wagner’s.
Deborah Birx: (01:37:21) I mean these are things we have studied for a long time. We are trying to understand the pathophysiology, but what we can tell you at this moment, if you have asthma, if you have renal disease, if you have diabetes, if you have hypertension, these are preexisting conditions that puts you at a greater risk to having a worse outcome.
Dr. Fauci: (01:37:41) Just add a comment to that because having been through other serious issues, particularly the very painful early years of HIV AIDS, when people talk about conspiracy theories. You will always have conspiracy theories when you have a very challenging public health crises. They are nothing but distractions. I can assure you, we have so much to do to protect the health and the welfare of the American people that I would just hope we just put those conspiracy stuff and let somebody write a book about it later on, but not now.
-Mike
Good info. Thanks for posting it 
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