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John Schmidt
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« on: April 13, 2020, 12:10:56 PM »

I was digging through some unpacked boxes this morning, trying to combine contents....especially those with pictures in it. Some pictures caused a temporary emotional breakdown, others like these below brought back some fond memories.

First one is Joe Cool about to go boring holes in the afternoon sky around Orlando. The C-150 could be trimmed to slow-fly at a low highway speed, open the window and putt around with your elbow out like riding in a convertible. Was a good way to unwind at the end of the day, watching the I-4 parking lot develop from 1500'.


This one was taken at River Ranch dude ranch about a 45 min. flight south of Orlando from Orlando Executive a/p. They had a landing strip there and you radioed ahead of landing so a van would meet you and haul you back to the main bldg. about 1/3 mile away. We used to fly down on Sunday afternoon following church, they had a Sunday smorgasbord to die for, and you always walked back to the airplane to work it off...you were stuffed. To get home from church we had to drive by where all the club planes were parked so one day I decided to check and one of the planes was available so we took it. That began the "after-church" lunch ride we used to indulge in. RR also had a golf course across the road from the strip, also quite handy...take the C-172 so you could carry 2 men and 2 golf bags. I recall one trip was lighter by one club on the return trip, seems my golfing buddy got so pissed he snapped the club across his knee and threw it into a nearby pond. A couple minutes he decided to go in after it until I pointed out a local resident floating in the water 10' away, whereupon he decided to buy a replacement. Never let him live it down, explaining how much fuel I saved returning with the lighter load.  2funny


No...I'm not about to hand-prop it, just posing. These are circa 1985, about 35 years and 35 lbs. ago. I sure miss it....flying, not the lbs. I still have those.  Wink
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2020, 05:34:53 PM »

Thanks for posting John.  Brings back memories.
When I was working on my private pilot license, on one of my student cross country flights I went with a buddy as a flight of two, he in a 150 and me in a Cherokee.  This was out of necessity.  My radio was out and his starter didn't work so I'd prop him to get him going and then he'd do the radio work for both of us.  Oh to be young and stupid again (as opposed to old and stupid).

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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2020, 06:28:19 PM »

Good pictures, good memories, John.

I flew mostly Cherokees and an Aero Commander Lark.  While in Albany, Georgia I did fly a club C-150 several times.  It was an interesting aircraft.  As I recall, flying into a headwind one could trim and throttle down and actually fly more slowly than ground traffic was moving along the road.  The C-150 would stall violently.  That was new to me as the Cherokee was very difficult to put into a true stall.

Good memories.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2020, 06:42:34 PM »

Old and stupid....nail on the head! Grin My membership is paid up in that club. I remember well my student cross country, had the crap scared out of me at the second stop. My route was from Orl. Ex. to Stuart on the SE coast south of Ft. Pierce for the 1st stop. Had a blast except the guy filling the tank rounded the tab up to an even dollar amount which was over 50 cents more than he pumped...told me they're allowed to do that. I handed him exact cash and said take it or leave it, then handed him my card from the Florida Dept. of Revenue and said we'll be in touch. Was a good audit a few weeks later! Wink Second stop was Venice, Fl. on the west coast but on the way just for kicks I circled the water tower for the city of Okeechobee on the north end of the lake, took a couple pics then headed for Venice. On approach to Venice I had a direct headwind and was set up for final when suddenly the controls went mushy and I was dropping like a flying piano. Venice a/p is right on the water and I had experienced a sudden 180 deg. shift in wind direction. Poured on the coals, recovered fine and landed. While talking to the FBO that signed me off he told me he was watching me and saw the sudden swing of the tetrahedron, was pleased that I handled it(frankly so was I). Third stop was back at Orl. Executive.

My former wife was also licensed and once in a while we'd fly to Venice and park at the west end of the ramp which was no more than 100 yds from the beach on the Gulf. We would spend the day on the beach, take advantage of local food delivery, then fly home late afternoon or if good weather we would return after dark. Back then Orlando was beautiful city to fly over at night, as were the attractions like Disney. Now, Venice is closed off all the way around, can no longer do the beach thing.

Cedar Key on the Gulf coast north of Tampa was always a fun day. Fly over midmorning, do a wing wag as you flew over the town and by the time you were parked and tied down this old gal in a beat up Chevy station wagon was there to pick you up. She'd haul you into town, arrange a time and place to pick you up later, then haul you back to the a/p. Old girl had skin like rawhide, all from the sun. Cedar Key had great food so you usually would eat first then walk around til your belly felt more comfy. When you were taken back to the a/p you paid for both trips, I always tried to be generous. About ten yrs. later I took my new wife over there on a beautiful sunny day in April and she fell in love with the place. I overflew the town, landed, parked, and who should drive up....rawhide in her old more beat up Chevy stationwagon. She took one look at me and with a very toothless grin asked where the heck I've been keeping myself. She remembered me and the N number. Unbelievable.  Grin
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2020, 06:56:17 PM »

Good pictures, good memories, John.

I flew mostly Cherokees and an Aero Commander Lark.  While in Albany, Georgia I did fly a club C-150 several times.  It was an interesting aircraft.  As I recall, flying into a headwind one could trim and throttle down and actually fly more slowly than ground traffic was moving along the road.  The C-150 would stall violently.  That was new to me as the Cherokee was very difficult to put into a true stall.

Good memories.
Slower than ground traffic....very true. I think the most fun I had was while on an audit of a company located on the Sanford a/p. During a break he took me out and showed me a C-150 he had taken in on trade, turned out he did some repairs on it and the owner was unable to pay so settled by turning over the plane. The fun part was the 150 came with a 100hp motor, but this one had a 160hp motor installed when the original was run out. We went around the patch a couple times then he turned me loose, telling me to be sure to turn on the fuel pump before take off. Reason being, with that 160hp motor it would climb like a homesick angel and since the Cessnas were gravity fed from the wing tanks, you could climb steep enough to starve the motor. I would have bought it if I had the $$, was a steal at the time...he only wanted to have the original bill paid. Chances lost. A friend at church had a Lark, he felt it was underpowered so probably had the 160 motor instead of the 180, I thought it was a nice flying plane...only got a couple hours in it with him.
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2020, 07:35:54 PM »

... A friend at church had a Lark, he felt it was underpowered so probably had the 160 motor instead of the 180, I thought it was a nice flying plane...only got a couple hours in it with him.

LOL!  My Lark was the Lark 180.  Wide wings for a 160, I'm sure.  When I first got it I thought I should experience its stall characteristics.  I had it up solo at about 5000 feet when I pulled the nose up.  It just kept climbing and I kept pulling it up to an extreme angle.  It suddenly seemed the airframe rotated instead of the propeller and nosed down.  I was standing hard and the rudder and just about pissing my pants to recover.  It was probably the most frightening experience I ever had in the air.  Perhaps Cherokee pilots shouldn't fly Larks.   Wink
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2020, 07:43:55 PM »

I cannot help you with the old part, but stupid is not one of them IMO.  Anyone who can fly an airplane is smart in my book, although I prefer to keep grounded 99.99% of the time only been in an airplane twice in my life some 30 years ago or so.

My daughter went age 18 with her high school classmate just graduating high school he just got his airplane license able to take 1 passenger is all up with him  on a small crop one engine plane probably similar to what that pic is.  His dad is a commerical jet pilot able to fly anything and the kid  is now currently going to college in North Dakota of all places to be a large commercial plane pilot just like his dad is.  

She never told us both parents what she was going to do until she showed us video and pics while in the plane above our hometown flying from local small airport nearby to about 70 miles north of us and back.  She even got to fly briefly her taking over a few seconds is all.   We as parents probably would have said NO to that one since an 18 year old just got his basic pilot license for small planes even if up with his dad a few dozen times prior does not trip my trigger for safety even if he was a good kid.  

If I was up in one of those single engine planes,  I would want a parachute on board just in case the ONE engine fails seeing as how every few years it seems like a small one engine plane crashes nearby that one airport  with fatalities.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2020, 08:20:58 PM »

Cookie, actually a rather new pilot is generally more safe than you realize. They haven't had their ticket long enough to develop bad habits and are quite cautious. As for engine failure, those little planes will glide quite a distance and being small can land off the a/p easier than a larger a/c. My 2nd wife used to call them flying ceiling fans, she couldn't fly with me but tried about three times. She and her whole family(sisters and bros) had inner ear troubles and were extremely subject to motion sickness. I've seen her get sick flying in a 747, she used to get upset with me when I'd either fall asleep during the flight or be reading something. Couple that with being a white-knuckle flyer and she always had a hard time flying. As for crashes, many times it's the pilot's fault...not the engine failing. Just think how many times the engine on your Valk or in your car/truck have quit suddenly for no reason. Maintenance and record keeping on a plane is controlled by law/rules, if we did the same with our cars Detroit would go out of business.
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