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Author Topic: A Lesson (Re)Learned? Nah, probably not . . . .  (Read 1372 times)
Foozle
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« on: April 22, 2020, 06:59:27 PM »

04-22

In the medical profession, there's a saying often told to young physicians:  When you hear hoof beats, think horses - not zebras.

If only I took this advice to heart.  Having just cleaned and reassembled my carbs (a good "quarantine" activity) AND installed a pair of glass packs (never change just one thing - it makes diagnosing subsequent problems far too easy!) - I took her out for a spin.  A little disappointing, to say the least.  It's the first real ride of the season, but yet, it seems sluggish . . . . . a little unresponsive. I seem to remember the experience being a little more spirited.  Bad gas, maybe?  Or, worse still, maybe I'm just getting old and nostalgic. Still, I expected more from my efforts:  New slow jets, complete Redeye kit, new spark plugs, OEM air filter, fresh coolant, etc.  She's not being very appreciative.

I smell gas, so I'm thinking my upgrades have me running a little rich - possibly necessitating some adjustments to the pilots (also with new o-rings and springs).  Damn . . . . . more tinkering on what should be (and used to be) as smooth as a Swiss watch. Why can't I just leave well-enough alone? I search the tech board and find an interesting read about using systematic changes in exhaust header temps to identify rich and lean cylinders.  Okay, I can do this. I'm not looking forward to it, but it beats random 1/4 turns of each pilot screw. I wonder where BigBF is currently at?

Just as I'm about to dive headfirst down the rabbit hole and order an IR thermometer from Amazon, I decide to take her out for another quick jaunt.  Maybe, just maybe.  No dice: Same thing - unchanged.  It's a beautifully cool, still evening and I'm liking the sound of the glass packs - both of which almost distract me from how "oddly" it seems to be running.  But something's definitely not right.  Back home, I pull all six spark plugs in preparation for some deeper diagnosis:  The rearward 4 (#3-#6) are a little on the dark side, but decently tan - not sooty or gas-soaked.  However, the front two (#1 and #2) are shiny and pristine (i.e., unfired) - just as they were when installed several days earlier.

I reach down and do a quick touch of the headers:  #1 and #2 are cool to the touch.  The remainder, you can rest assured, were most certainly not!  Back on the VRCC tech board, I find someone with a similar problem and, it turns out, an easy fix.  In fact, embarrassingly easy.  Could it be that simple?  I lift the front part of the tank and  . . . . . . lo and behold, one of the wires is dangling from the left front coil - evidently pulled off during my Texas death match with the infamous air box.

In summary, it turns out the Valk runs surprisingly well on only 4 cylinders - though the addition of the other two make for a much fuller symphony.  However, the lesson in all of this, kids, is not to do the bowel resection before you rule out indigestion.  On a brighter note, my bike and I are once again on speaking terms - and I can cross "mechanic" off the growing list of occupational callings I may have missed.

As always, as in life, YMMV.

Terry
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2020, 07:01:57 PM »

 Grin cooldude
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2020, 09:07:30 PM »

Terry, I always remove that coil, makes R&R the airbox easier. One less thing to struggle working around. Also lessens the chance you're going to leave/knock off a wire since you have to remount the coil anyway.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2020, 03:27:07 PM »

Same thing happened to me after desmog. I was panicking.  tickedoff  And you're right, they do run pretty decent on 4 cylinders, lol.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2020, 05:01:15 AM »

This reminds me of my acquired love of horizontally opposed engines. They are the only design that is inherently balanced. Maybe radial engines have that.

The old Volkswagens run smooth on 2 cylinders. (don't ask how I learned this!) Everything looks and feels good, but no guts with unburned fuel smell and exhaust popping are the indicators. 

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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2020, 05:09:41 AM »

This reminds me of my acquired love of horizontally opposed engines. They are the only design that is inherently balanced. Maybe radial engines have that.

The old Volkswagens run smooth on 2 cylinders. (don't ask how I learned this!) Everything looks and feels good, but no guts with unburned fuel smell and exhaust popping are the indicators. 

 2funny crazy2






I had a 66 bug back in the 80's and my GF used it for awhile.. she ran it out of oil and I thought she killed it. Pulled the engine apart, put in new rings, fired it up and it ran like a charm..

Amazing machines indeed.
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2020, 09:11:13 AM »

Sounds exactly like something I might do.  Hopefully not after reading this, but I don't put it past me.  I'm unskilled, disorganized and absent minded in the garage.  I cuss on occasion as well.
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2020, 09:50:14 AM »

Yup. don't make the simple things tougher. A buddy of mine asked me to help pull the heads off his Pontiac cause the dealer told him the valves were bad. Went to pull the valve covers and noticed #5 and #7 plug wires were crossed.  Glad you caught the problem before tearing into her again.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2020, 01:08:16 PM »

Worked on a taillight problem many years ago where lights did about everything except what they were suppose to.
After some time I finally found the problem was inside one of the 1157 bulbs. The two filaments inside the bulb were both working but were also touching one another.   
So far a once in a lifetime for me.
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